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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
It's bad for Trump (no day of in-person votes), but he has a small chance still. The Arizona Republic surveyed county recorders and estimates that 600,000 ballots remain to be counted in Arizona. A full 450,000 of those ballots are in Maricopa County (Phoenix) and break down as follows: 248,000 early ballots (which in Arizona includes both mail-in and in-person votes) that arrived on Monday or Tuesday, 160,000-180,000 mail-in ballots dropped off on Election Day and 29,000 provisional ballots. Maricopa expects to release two batches of results tonight: one at 9 p.m. Eastern and one sometime after 12:30 a.m. Eastern. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 05 2020 04:13 Nevuk wrote: So what, he wants them to stop counting while he's behind? These are just panicky moves that serve no purpose. Well, there's a not-insignificant chance that further counting puts him out of recount range. But who am I kidding, he's not acting rationally. A recount ain't negating a 50K lead for Biden. On November 05 2020 04:15 Nevuk wrote: From 538 for what's left in AZ. It's bad for Trump (no day of in-person votes), but he has a small chance still. My guess is that the reason the GOP grist mill has spun up is because one of these sub-categories (either mail-in Monday/Tues, in-person Mon/Tues, or mail-in drop-offs) has the 2:1 edge they need to maaaaybe squeeze back AZ. It would be frankly bizarre for all of them to have it, though. | ||
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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
On November 05 2020 04:15 Erasme wrote: slow the process down Unless a judge grants a stay, which is a huge legal ask, lawsuits won't slow anything really | ||
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
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Shingi11
290 Posts
On November 05 2020 04:08 JimmiC wrote: With the squad at least doubling in size and some of the moderate/center dems losing I think whether anyone wants to or not the influence will grow simply because they make up a bigger % of the Dems in congress. I think some of them winning in the South will also raise the profile and make them harder to ignore. The squad is in the house though, the Senate is who different beast. The senate you are playing in a lot more red territory, GOP just has so much more advantage there. Move more to the left in the Senate and you risk the whole house of cards collapsing. Look at the Senate debates, the squad is seen as the boogeyman in the senate. I would say they are reaching Pelosi levels of hate with the right. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
I suspect we'll be hearing more stories like this. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 05 2020 04:19 Nevuk wrote: Apparently in the USPS hearings it has come out that there was a tip that 3000 ballots (that have been voted on) are just sitting undelivered in a NC post office in Greensborough. If delivered, they can still be counted. I suspect we'll be hearing more stories like this. Well, as long as they're postmarked that's not really a problem in North Carolina (except insofar as it's disobeying any other requirements)-the state counts ballots received through November 12th. It's part of why it may not be called until next week (though it's likely Trump's margin will be too bigly for mail-ins to matter). | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8082 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On November 05 2020 04:16 farvacola wrote: Unless a judge grants a stay, which is a huge legal ask, lawsuits won't slow anything really Then to make it seems like there is fraud, because the president surely wouldn't send his lawyers if he didnt have hard proof. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12463 Posts
On November 05 2020 04:12 Biff The Understudy wrote: Weird. How is that? Is it a local newspaper? It is, yeah. But usually we get our international articles from Libération and what they write there about the US is preeetty shit as well. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8082 Posts
On November 05 2020 04:23 Nebuchad wrote: It is, yeah. But usually we get our international articles from Libération and what they write there about the US is preeetty shit as well. Libération is all right, imo. Not fantastic, but certainly not awful. I used to read it every day when I grew up. At least they get their facts mostly straight. I would put it in the top 3 best daily newspapers in France without second thought. Do your colleagues know that you understand all of this way better than them? | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12463 Posts
On November 05 2020 04:23 Nebuchad wrote: It is, yeah. But usually we get our international articles from Libération and what they write there about the US is preeetty shit as well. Here is a quote from an expert that we'll publish: "Ce que l'on supposait comme le plus probable, même si on s'y attendait moins, était (...)" "What we thought was most likely, even though we didn't expect it, was (x)" Losing my mind reading this Edit: Ok I got them to change this at least, lol | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13996 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France8082 Posts
On November 05 2020 04:27 Nebuchad wrote: Here is a quote from an expert that we'll publish: "Ce que l'on supposait comme le plus probable, même si on s'y attendait moins, était (...)" "What we thought was most likely, even though we didn't expect it, was (x)" Losing my mind reading this I am considering taking a pen and paper to figure out the logic there. | ||
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Shingi11
290 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France8082 Posts
On November 05 2020 04:35 Shingi11 wrote: So the question becomes how do moderates and progressive move forward together. Its become clear that progressive will not hold their nose and vote for a candidate they don't want unlike the republican party that will vote for literal garage if it has a R next. Moderate dems need to stop hoping that pipe dream happen after 2 elections of progressives showing there displeasure while progressive need to understand a large part of the country has a very big aversion to them. The big question is how we beige that gap. Couldn't agree more. Anyway, it's work together or die. Simple as that. People hoping that some progressive will hijack ideologically the whole left half of the country the way the tea party and Trump did are delusionnal. First, is it REALLY what we want to emulate? And B, progressives and liberals won't do the grotesque compromises the conservatives have done to fit into this new national populist wave. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 05 2020 04:35 Shingi11 wrote: So the question becomes how do moderates and progressive move forward together. Its become clear that progressive will not hold their nose and vote for a candidate they don't want unlike the republican party that will vote for literal garage if it has a R next. Moderate dems need to stop hoping that pipe dream happen after 2 elections of progressives showing there displeasure while progressive need to understand a large part of the country has a very big aversion to them. The big question is how we beige that gap. Put up the most progressive candidate you can find in 4, maybe 8 years. Watch said candidate either win by a landslide, or get absolutely vaporised in the election. And then: take the hint. | ||
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pmh
1416 Posts
John king must have repeated everything he has been saying at least 10+ times by now. Its a waiting game now kinda,barely any news coming in. @below:yes he definitely is. He and wolf are my favorit anchors on cnn. | ||
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GoShox
United States1843 Posts
On November 05 2020 04:39 pmh wrote: Its simply amazing how cnn can fill 24 hours+ with this lol. John king must have repeated everything he has been saying at least 10+ times by now. Its a waiting game now kinda,barely any news coming in. The guy is a beast. I went to sleep at ~2:30 my time, woke up at ~9:20 and haven't watched a second of CNN without him present | ||
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