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On November 05 2020 04:00 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 03:55 farvacola wrote:On November 05 2020 03:52 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On November 05 2020 03:50 farvacola wrote:On November 05 2020 03:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On November 05 2020 03:44 farvacola wrote:On November 05 2020 03:41 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
If anyone is wondering how big a failure this was from top to bottom for the DNC.
Specifically, they should consider who their replacements will be, but lord knows they'll do anything to resist that conclusion. That's the biggest fucking mishandling of them all. You're main goal was to get the senate. How do they continually fuck up this simple fucking matter? 2 more runs for AOC and then we can get her Speaker of the House. I really dislike over reliance on the "coastal elites" trope, but it very clearly holds water when used to try and understand how and why the DNC messed up so badly. Folks like Pelosi and Hoyer have no idea what goes on outside their states and DC. I agree. They could have flipped a couple middle states if they had done anything remotely close to competent during this entire thing. But whatever. Not everyone hates Rs because of trump. Banking on that was probably what got a lot of them screwed. Whatever. Another 4 years of not getting shit done it looks like. The legislative gridlock will be fucked, but I must point out that plenty will still get done in terms of unilateral executive stuff should Biden ultimately prevail. Even simple stuff like not chasing scientists out of the CDC and EPA will make a big difference in only a matter of months. There is a pretty decent chance that senate flips in 2022 correct?(obviously a lot can change between now and then) And from what I was understanding there is so much work for Biden in just filling all the the rolls and doing all the work of the president that Trump just never got around to doing between his trips, golf and insanely high TV watching. So maybe two years of fixing and then 2 years of progress? Or am I being way too optimistic.
The next two years will be pivotal, but yes, there is a timeline where Dems can push on the few successful threads revealed this cycle and flip the Senate. Doing so will require folks like Pelosi to admit their problems or step out of the way though, so it won't be pretty. I am hoping the Squad steps up to the plate in that regard.
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On November 05 2020 03:38 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 03:34 Emnjay808 wrote:
100k mail-in votes all for Biden is sus but it doesn’t matter anymore I'm pretty sure that what they're doing is reporting Biden + X votes Trump + Y votes updating two individual lines but people are going Biden + X votes (and Trump 0 votes?!?!) Trump + Y votes (and Biden 0 votes?!?!) because they're idiots.
I think the dissemination of the data is very likely the logical explanation here. I give credit to Trump to spin it in any such way though.
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On November 05 2020 03:55 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 03:52 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On November 05 2020 03:50 farvacola wrote:On November 05 2020 03:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On November 05 2020 03:44 farvacola wrote:Specifically, they should consider who their replacements will be, but lord knows they'll do anything to resist that conclusion. That's the biggest fucking mishandling of them all. You're main goal was to get the senate. How do they continually fuck up this simple fucking matter? 2 more runs for AOC and then we can get her Speaker of the House. I really dislike over reliance on the "coastal elites" trope, but it very clearly holds water when used to try and understand how and why the DNC messed up so badly. Folks like Pelosi and Hoyer have no idea what goes on outside their states and DC. I agree. They could have flipped a couple middle states if they had done anything remotely close to competent during this entire thing. But whatever. Not everyone hates Rs because of trump. Banking on that was probably what got a lot of them screwed. Whatever. Another 4 years of not getting shit done it looks like. The legislative gridlock will be fucked, but I must point out that plenty will still get done in terms of unilateral executive stuff should Biden ultimately prevail. Even simple stuff like not chasing scientists out of the CDC and EPA will make a big difference in only a matter of months.
Ya I think we are going to him govern by EO for 2 years at least. If this election has shown anything it that middle if the road is dead. People want there side to win
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On November 05 2020 03:51 Nouar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 03:48 Shingi11 wrote:
For everyone only saying only the dems need to take a hard look.
The Republicans are in the same boat, a lot of the vote is being carried by Trump personally. The party is no where near as strong with Penace at the top of the ticket.
2024 is going to be about who can fix there flaws first.
Except if Trump campaigns for a lieutenant. Would he care about somebody ELSE winning though ? I don't think his loyalty goes that far. For the Senate, there is a chance Collins or Romney agree to some things eventually...
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The Presidential Apprentice
Trump's new reality show to decide the republican presidential candidate for 2024. Calling it now.
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On November 05 2020 02:57 Nevuk wrote:
The likely GOP 2024 nominee has spoken :
I listened to a part of his podcast with Joe Rogan. Joe asked like 3 questions total and Kanye talked for hours, going on more complicated tangents than the weirdest Trump rant. The guy is seriously incoherent in expressing his thoughts. Which makes him perfect for the American electorate. He's also nutjob levels of religious which is always good for electability.
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Had a talk with a venezuelian friend here, he was kind of devastated that his family in Miami supports Trump. They are so traumatized by years of Chavez and Maduro that anyone accused of socialism is the bad guy in their book. I think it would be an idea from the democrats and progressives to do a lot of pedagogy in Florida and explain to the latinos over there that they have nothing in common with the populist strongmen of South America.
It's kind of tragic to see that this grotesque strawman from the GOP is working.
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CNN is now projecting Biden takes WI.
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On November 05 2020 04:05 Neneu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 03:51 Nouar wrote:On November 05 2020 03:48 Shingi11 wrote:
For everyone only saying only the dems need to take a hard look.
The Republicans are in the same boat, a lot of the vote is being carried by Trump personally. The party is no where near as strong with Penace at the top of the ticket.
2024 is going to be about who can fix there flaws first.
Except if Trump campaigns for a lieutenant. Would he care about somebody ELSE winning though ? I don't think his loyalty goes that far. For the Senate, there is a chance Collins or Romney agree to some things eventually... ' The Presidential ApprenticeTrump's new reality show to decide the republican presidential candidate for 2024. Calling it now.
Filmed from his prison cell.
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On November 05 2020 04:05 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:I listened to a part of his podcast with Joe Rogan. Joe asked like 3 questions total and Kanye talked for hours, going on more complicated tangents than the weirdest Trump rant. The guy is seriously incoherent in expressing his thoughts. Which makes him perfect for the American electorate. He's also nutjob levels of religious which is always good for electability.
He probably has episodes of mania or hypomania. Just as wombat, being a bipolar person myself as well, I think the people who are around him are doing a shitty job.
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This from Arizona has counted all ballots apparently.
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On November 05 2020 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
As some of you might remember, I work in a newspaper, and I just wanted to say once again that the coverage of the US that we give is INSANELY bad.
I've just started reading this and there are like 4 factually incorrect informations. We're publishing that Trump is in good shape, that Biden is very favoured in Arizona but it's unclear in Wisconsin and Michigan - of course Biden should win all of those but his percentage chance of winning Wisconsin and Michigan is higher than his percentage chance of winning Arizona. No mention of Georgia or NC at all. We interviewed an expert who says it's "likely" that the rest of the votes are mail-in ballots (...)
I can't do anything about this so I'm just going to whine here.
This one comes from our journalists but usually we get articles from Libération and they are atrocious as well.
Closing on Trump solidifying his base of poor white voters when he's been improving in every other category and losing with white men.
It's not even malicious, they just literally have no idea what they're saying. I wish it was malicious ffs.
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I think I read the DSA was 25 for 30 or 35 for 40? Whatever it was, it was a lot better than expected.
Ironically, the squad gets MORE power as the democratic margin in the house shrinks. In the current setup there were only 5 of them and the democrats had such a large buffer (38+) that they could largely be ignored.
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That's not saying what you think it's saying lol.
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Trump campaign has filed suit in Michigan.
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On November 05 2020 04:10 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
As some of you might remember, I work in a newspaper, and I just wanted to say once again that the coverage of the US that we give is INSANELY bad.
I've just started reading this and there are like 4 factually incorrect informations. We're publishing that Trump is in good shape, that Biden is very favoured in Arizona but it's unclear in Wisconsin and Michigan - of course Biden should win all of those but his percentage chance of winning Wisconsin and Michigan is higher than his percentage chance of winning Arizona. No mention of Georgia or NC at all. We interviewed an expert who says it's "likely" that the rest of the votes are mail-in ballots (...)
I can't do anything about this so I'm just going to whine here.
This one comes from our journalists but usually we get articles from Libération and they are atrocious as well. Closing on Trump solidifying his base of poor white voters when he's been improving in every other category and losing with white men. It's not even malicious, they just literally have no idea what they're saying. I wish it was malicious ffs.
Weird. How is that? Is it a local newspaper?
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So what, he wants them to stop counting while he's behind? These are just panicky moves that serve no purpose.
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Does Trump suing mean anything? What can he really do?
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On November 05 2020 04:13 Mohdoo wrote:
Does Trump suing mean anything? What can he really do?
His lawyers can show up in court and get yelled at, that's about it.
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EPT
