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On November 05 2020 03:38 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 03:34 Emnjay808 wrote:
100k mail-in votes all for Biden is sus but it doesn’t matter anymore I'm pretty sure that what they're doing is reporting Biden + X votes Trump + Y votes updating two individual lines but people are going Biden + X votes (and Trump 0 votes?!?!) Trump + Y votes (and Biden 0 votes?!?!) because they're idiots.
The first case is actually even worse than that: the site accidentally updated to show +154K instead of +15K Biden votes, then revised it down to +15K (and only the Biden votes were affected). Someone screenshotted the numbers and then posted them in reverse order in their tweets, so that it looked like it went up by 139K.
Basically, disinformation machines have ramped up to the max and it's inconceivable for debunkers to keep up.
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Poor Georgia, they rhought they where done with political ads. If the fate of the Senate is on the line going to swamped in em.
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On November 05 2020 03:41 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
If anyone is wondering how big a failure this was from top to bottom for the DNC.
Specifically, they should consider who their replacements will be, but lord knows they'll do anything to resist that conclusion.
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Trump team sending a group to Arizona.
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On November 05 2020 03:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Trump team sending a group to Arizona.
Why? It's not like they can influence voters now.
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Trump and his campaign are under the impression Arizona still allows for sheriff's posses
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On November 05 2020 03:44 farvacola wrote:Specifically, they should consider who their replacements will be, but lord knows they'll do anything to resist that conclusion.
That's the biggest fucking mishandling of them all. You're main goal was to get the senate. How do they continually fuck up this simple fucking matter? 2 more runs for AOC and then we can get her Speaker of the House.
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On November 05 2020 03:45 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 03:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Trump team sending a group to Arizona. Why? It's not like they can influence voters now.
Because he runs on popular perception, not facts. If he can create the perception of a disputed race then the race becomes disputed, whether or not the vote count is.
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For everyone only saying only the dems need to take a hard look.
The Republicans are in the same boat, a lot of the vote is being carried by Trump personally. The party is no where near as strong with Penace at the top of the ticket.
2024 is going to be about who can fix there flaws first.
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Looks like Collins just won in Maine now that Gideon conceded.
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On November 05 2020 03:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 03:44 farvacola wrote:Specifically, they should consider who their replacements will be, but lord knows they'll do anything to resist that conclusion. That's the biggest fucking mishandling of them all. You're main goal was to get the senate. How do they continually fuck up this simple fucking matter? 2 more runs for AOC and then we can get her Speaker of the House.
I really dislike over reliance on the "coastal elites" trope, but it very clearly holds water when used to try and understand how and why the DNC messed up so badly. Folks like Pelosi and Hoyer have no idea what goes on outside their states and DC.
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Even keeping Michigan blue only gets Dems to 48 in the Senate right now. Dems have failed again down ballot.
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Dems need to really figure out how to win the Senate. This is insane
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On November 05 2020 03:48 Shingi11 wrote:
For everyone only saying only the dems need to take a hard look.
The Republicans are in the same boat, a lot of the vote is being carried by Trump personally. The party is no where near as strong with Penace at the top of the ticket.
2024 is going to be about who can fix there flaws first.
Except if Trump campaigns for a lieutenant. Would he care about somebody ELSE winning though ? I don't think his loyalty goes that far.
For the Senate, there is a chance Collins or Romney agree to some things eventually...
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On November 05 2020 03:50 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 03:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On November 05 2020 03:44 farvacola wrote:Specifically, they should consider who their replacements will be, but lord knows they'll do anything to resist that conclusion. That's the biggest fucking mishandling of them all. You're main goal was to get the senate. How do they continually fuck up this simple fucking matter? 2 more runs for AOC and then we can get her Speaker of the House. I really dislike over reliance on the "coastal elites" trope, but it very clearly holds water when used to try and understand how and why the DNC messed up so badly. Folks like Pelosi and Hoyer have no idea what goes on outside their states and DC.
I agree. They could have flipped a couple middle states if they had done anything remotely close to competent during this entire thing. But whatever. Not everyone hates Rs because of trump. Banking on that was probably what got a lot of them screwed.
Whatever. Another 4 years of not getting shit done it looks like.
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On November 05 2020 03:52 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 03:50 farvacola wrote:On November 05 2020 03:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On November 05 2020 03:44 farvacola wrote:Specifically, they should consider who their replacements will be, but lord knows they'll do anything to resist that conclusion. That's the biggest fucking mishandling of them all. You're main goal was to get the senate. How do they continually fuck up this simple fucking matter? 2 more runs for AOC and then we can get her Speaker of the House. I really dislike over reliance on the "coastal elites" trope, but it very clearly holds water when used to try and understand how and why the DNC messed up so badly. Folks like Pelosi and Hoyer have no idea what goes on outside their states and DC. I agree. They could have flipped a couple middle states if they had done anything remotely close to competent during this entire thing. But whatever. Not everyone hates Rs because of trump. Banking on that was probably what got a lot of them screwed. Whatever. Another 4 years of not getting shit done it looks like.
The legislative gridlock will be fucked, but I must point out that plenty will still get done in terms of unilateral executive stuff should Biden ultimately prevail. Even simple stuff like not chasing scientists out of the CDC and EPA will make a big difference in only a matter of months.
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On November 05 2020 03:53 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 03:30 Wegandi wrote:On November 05 2020 03:26 JimmiC wrote:On November 05 2020 03:19 m4ini wrote:On November 05 2020 03:14 Wegandi wrote:On November 05 2020 03:10 m4ini wrote:
Kanye vs Johnson?
Count me in.
Libertarians can send a Camacho stand in, lets have a party.
edit: i say that, i'd vote for Terry Crews tbh. Dude...the obvious Libertarian candidate is Kurt Russell (for both being an actual libertarian IRL & being motherfucking Snake fucking Plissken). Doesn't have the required Camacho-ness, sorry. I found this funny from his Wiki Russell is a libertarian.[41] In 1996, he was quoted in the Toronto Sun saying: "I was brought up as a Republican, but when I realized that at the end of the day there wasn't much difference between a Democrat and Republican, I became a libertarian."[41] In February 2003, Russell and Hawn moved to Vancouver, British Columbia, so that their son could play hockey.[35] BC is our most left province, in a Country far left of the US. Not to mention BC has pretty high taxes, tons of regulation (especially environmentally) and not just income taxes but also on gas, smokes, booze, a provincial sales tax to go with the federal. I get that hockey is amazing, but you can get great hockey basically anywhere in Canada or go to the NE states, funny to have back to back, I'm a libertarian because the Reps are too much like the dems and moving basically as socialist as he can back to back. Sometimes I wonder how many people are actually what they think they are politically. I'm very sure Russell knows what he is politically. https://reason.com/2015/12/22/kurt-russell-im-not-a-republican-im-wors/Good interview with him. Russell talks about how much he enjoyed going to the Cato Institute's 20th Anniversary Party (in 1994 1997), which he described as "a place where I can have a conversation and not be laughed at or smirked at" as he would at parties in Hollywood, where he says he was "politically persona non grata." I'm not saying he does not say he is a libertarian's I'm saying his actions suggest otherwise. Like if I say I'm a vegetarian and eat steak a few nights a week, am I a vegetarian. I don't understand why a actual hardcore libertarian with money and freedom of movement would move to the most opposite place to their beliefs in NA. Also strange that his more current quote (2005) is in past tense, after he moved to BC in 2003. and his old quote 1996 is present tense. Show nested quote +"I was brought up as a Republican, but when I realized that at the end of the day there wasn't much difference between a Democrat and Republican, I became a libertarian." I don't know what he is currently he seems to not want to say. But I'd say the quotes from 1993 are pretty freaking old, and him putting it in the past tense in the future and choosing to live in as socialist as possible a place seems like him may have shifted, even if he does not realize it, though he likely does!
Why do you think the sole motivating factor for where someone lives is entirely political? I lived in Hawaii for 8 years and it is about as far apart from me on the political spectrum. Did that make me not a libertarian anymore because I wanted to experience and live in Hawaii?
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As some of you might remember, I work in a newspaper, and I just wanted to say once again that the coverage of the US that we give is INSANELY bad.
I've just started reading this and there are like 4 factually incorrect informations. We're publishing that Trump is in good shape, that Biden is very favoured in Arizona but it's unclear in Wisconsin and Michigan - of course Biden should win all of those but his percentage chance of winning Wisconsin and Michigan is higher than his percentage chance of winning Arizona. No mention of Georgia or NC at all. We interviewed an expert who says it's "likely" that the rest of the votes are mail-in ballots (...)
I can't do anything about this so I'm just going to whine here.
This one comes from our journalists but usually we get articles from Libération and they are atrocious as well.
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