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Any and all updates regarding the COVID-19 will need a source provided. Please do your part in helping us to keep this thread maintainable and under control.

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This is not a politics thread! You are allowed to post information regarding politics if it's related to the coronavirus, but do NOT discuss politics in here.

Added a disclaimer on page 662. Many need to post better.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-16 14:31:30
March 16 2020 14:30 GMT
#861
I wanted to ask the Aussies in this thread, just how is the general mood over there?
Just from skimming the international news, I know this year u guys had massive forest fires, floods and now the virus, and we're 2.5 months in.
Are people dealing with it allright?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-16 14:43:36
March 16 2020 14:42 GMT
#862


Sharing a video from our Foreign Minister who talks briefly on how we approach the virus.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 16 2020 15:01 GMT
#863
I've been call back to work in my summer job on the administrative side of the health care system starting tomorrow morning, time to see the size of the mess.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23675 Posts
March 16 2020 15:10 GMT
#864
On March 16 2020 23:42 DucK- wrote:
https://youtu.be/FCge2Iq799c

Sharing a video from our Foreign Minister who talks briefly on how we approach the virus.


Lot of good info in that. That China may be more worried about importing cases from other countries at this point is a bit surreal.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8818 Posts
March 16 2020 16:17 GMT
#865
On March 16 2020 23:30 Geo.Rion wrote:
I wanted to ask the Aussies in this thread, just how is the general mood over there?
Just from skimming the international news, I know this year u guys had massive forest fires, floods and now the virus, and we're 2.5 months in.
Are people dealing with it allright?

overall i think reactions about the virus are pretty split. some people are emptying supermarket shelves and really worrying about how the country isnt enforcing travel restrictions hard enough etc.
others think theres too much overreaction and media + general panic has been a problem.

what i think all australians would come to a consensus on is that the australian economy has been going into a recession for a long time now, the bush fires have devastated those that were actually affected but the overall impact on the economy wasnt felt by australians otherwise. then the coronavirus came along and now we all know for sure that not only is our economy going to shit but australia is so lacking in competitiveness in so many major industries.

like i said in my previous posts in this thread, itll take time for the entire world to see the repercussions of the economic impacts, but id say with pretty high confidence that australia is not in for a good time for the next few years. too many underlying issues here in terms of policies in a variety of areas that will prevent australias economy from getting better regardless of how the coronavirus pandemic ends.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10854 Posts
March 16 2020 16:29 GMT
#866
Switzerland just closed all bars, restaurants, cultural entertainment, sport clubs/gyms and non-food shops till at least the 19th of april.

Its gonna be boring
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
March 16 2020 16:31 GMT
#867
My company escalated from work from home whenever possible to a full office closure inside of 5 days (2 weekend days). I'm gonna run into the office and grab a few things like my laptop dock, extra cables etc, but it's an office that normally holds ~1400 employees.

The businesses in the nearby area are going to suffer. The company provided some money each quarter for each employee to use as a gift card in nearby restaurants, and all of that will dry up starting pretty much immediately.

I'm glad I have half of my savings in non-volatile savings. The stock market is going to hit the floor here, and there's nothing propping it up, because consumerism is the basis of the economy, and everyone stuck at home means purchases are drastically curtailed.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43646 Posts
March 16 2020 16:44 GMT
#868
My work is still having everyone come in, even people who could remote, but has a new policy of 2 weeks paid sick leave for Corona.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-16 16:46:23
March 16 2020 16:45 GMT
#869
On March 17 2020 01:29 Velr wrote:
Switzerland just closed all bars, restaurants, cultural entertainment, sport clubs/gyms and non-food shops till at least the 19th of april.

Its gonna be boring

Overheard this conversation in the park the other day (paraphrasing a bit ofc):
"What are we supposed to do on the weekend without football games going on?
You can't but get drunk like this without games to go to."
"Working the whole week and now the weekend is ruined [by not being able to go to the stadium]."

It was 12 am and they finished a beer in tandem.


Also casual reminder for the online shoppers to have a bit of change ready for the delivery personell.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22208 Posts
March 16 2020 16:51 GMT
#870
Can't even go for a hike in the woods here, but supermarkets are looking for workers, as my uni is looking for student volunteers.

I'd like to do that, but I think I might be positive and mostly asymptomatic. Been having weird crawling feelings in the chest and slightly elevated temperature occasionaly. Either way, if I am and it isn't hypochondria, then this virus can't touch me and I should be over the hill. I smoke like a chimney btw.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
March 16 2020 16:55 GMT
#871
I remember someone posting in the last couple pages being an absolute idiot about the importance of flattening the curve:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/canada-covid-19-coronavirus-spread-hospital-surge-capacity-ventilators-1.5493178

I couldn't find current numbers but:
Fowler led a team of researchers that conducted a survey of Canada's critical-care capacity after the 2009 H1N1 epidemic. At the time, there were about 3,200 ICU beds and almost 5,000 mechanical ventilators spread out in 286 hospitals across Canada.


Every critical case needs a ventilator. A fair proportion of these ventilators are ALREADY in use due to other hospitalizations. If they run out at a hospital, someone is going to get on the wrong side of triage.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

If you take Italy as 2x Canada, and they have 10,000 ventilators, you can see where this starts being a problem when 15%+ of your already limited number of ventilators are in use for Corona. If they run out, we can expect serious PTSD from nurses and doctors charged with triaging patients if they're forced to choose.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 16 2020 17:08 GMT
#872
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9177 Posts
March 16 2020 17:25 GMT
#873
On March 17 2020 01:44 KwarK wrote:
My work is still having everyone come in, even people who could remote, but has a new policy of 2 weeks paid sick leave for Corona.

Mine asked me to work from home and changed the schedule for those that can't so they don't have to commute at peak hours, and this is in a country with fairly antiquated practices.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 16 2020 17:55 GMT
#874
Italy's numbers arent getting any better, 350 deaths today, again... Spain is ramping up too
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 16 2020 18:08 GMT
#875
I'm very fortunate. I live in a state that's taking it very seriously, have a job that can be easily done from home (app developer), that is in very high demand in my area, work for a German corporation who is taking it seriously, and my wife has a recession proof job (daycare). Many others are not going to be that fortunate.

Of course, I'm also closing on buying a house, which is gonna be somewhat of a loss in the next couple months right now. I think it was a great deal in the first place so I'm not too worried, but I'm fully expecting house prices to drop 10-15%.

We found out why daycares haven't yet closed in Ohio, btw. It's because healthcare providers need daycare. Governor is begging people not to bring children to daycare unless they're critical, and preparing to open new daycares in the hospitals for the doctors. It's not something that even occurred to me before seeing the tweet. Wonder if my wife will get tapped...

Oh, and this is a fun policy :
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 16 2020 18:09 GMT
#876
On March 17 2020 02:25 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2020 01:44 KwarK wrote:
My work is still having everyone come in, even people who could remote, but has a new policy of 2 weeks paid sick leave for Corona.

Mine asked me to work from home and changed the schedule for those that can't so they don't have to commute at peak hours, and this is in a country with fairly antiquated practices.

My job is giving the option to work from home for everyone, but recommending that everyone go to work unless they're sick. Seems like just about everyone is staying home, thankfully.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-16 18:21:41
March 16 2020 18:15 GMT
#877
Canadian borders are being closed to non-Canadian residents

Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12047 Posts
March 16 2020 18:16 GMT
#878
On March 17 2020 03:09 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2020 02:25 Dan HH wrote:
On March 17 2020 01:44 KwarK wrote:
My work is still having everyone come in, even people who could remote, but has a new policy of 2 weeks paid sick leave for Corona.

Mine asked me to work from home and changed the schedule for those that can't so they don't have to commute at peak hours, and this is in a country with fairly antiquated practices.

My job is giving the option to work from home for everyone, but recommending that everyone go to work unless they're sick. Seems like just about everyone is staying home, thankfully.


Same thing here, except people show up since it was implied one should. Honestly thought they would send white collar workers home to decrease chance of infecting blue collar workers (and production tied white collar).
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
March 16 2020 18:18 GMT
#879
On March 17 2020 03:15 Nevuk wrote:
Canadian borders are being closed to non-Canadians.

Non-residents* for the most part
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 16 2020 18:24 GMT
#880
On March 17 2020 03:15 Nevuk wrote:
Canadian borders are being closed to non-Canadian residents

https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/1239608582787739657



Still allowing US citizens which is obviously problematic. I'd assume that they're probably still working on the details for closing the border to US citizens (which is obviously the most complex case).
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