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JimmiC
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ArcadePlus
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United States44 Posts
February 27 2019 03:25 GMT
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tangentially relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

With the talk and general feeling of US military action against Maduro in the air, we should remember the long history of US involvement in Latin American affairs, and that in such a history it is rare that the US Government has the best interests of "the people" at heart.
JimmiC
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GoTuNk!
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Last Edited: 2019-03-11 01:41:29
March 11 2019 01:40 GMT
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I think Venezuelans are sadly fucked, Maduro is a thug who finances his thugs with drug money and works closely with FARC and the cuban dictatorship.
Dictators do not go off power unless other people with guns come and force them out. Everyone on the civilized world is asking for a "peaceful solution" and somehow hoping that concerts on the border and economic sanctions do magic.
The US won't military intervene the country and the UN will continue being useless, so Maduro will either keep his socialist dictatorship for a long time or there will be some sort of coup with a high chance of devolving into a civil war.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 12 2019 01:07 GMT
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5th day without light in Venezuela

Unbiased America
VENEZUELAN BLACKOUT: DAY FIVE
By Kevin Ryan

Today is the fifth day since Venezuela’s power system went down. Most of the country, including Caracas, remains in darkness.

Last Thursday a substation which supplies electricity to 80% of Venezuelans from the massive Guri hydropower plant, went offline. A union official at the national power monopoly, Corpoelec, told reporters that a brush fire under a power trunk line caused Guri’s turbines to shut down. The government has tried to restart Guri four times since the start of the blackout on Thursday.

“Every time they attempt to restart, they fail and the disruption breaks something else in the system, destabilizing the grid yet further,” said José Aguilar, a Venezuelan power industry expert. The latest attempt led to the explosion of a secondary substation near Guri on Saturday.

The problem? Restarting the turbines requires skilled operators who can synchronize the speed of rotation on Guri’s operational turbines, yet the most experienced operators had left long ago because of meager wages. Most of the remaining workers are now being told to stay home.

President Maduro insists the blackout is the result of sabotage and cyberattacks organized by the United States and his opposition, without providing any evidence. Energy experts, Venezuelan power sector contractors, and current and former Corpoelec employees have dismissed the accusations, saying the blackout was the result of years of underinvestment, corruption, and brain drain.

It’s the latest is a string of government failures that have plagued Venezuela since its “socialist revolution”.

Without power, looting has become even more widespread. People searching for food have attacked markets and restaurants. There's no communication, not even by cell phone. Water is scarce as pumps have shut down without electricity. Desperate patients have been begging doctors to be kept alive, who have been reduced to performing emergency surgeries by flashlight. Fifteen dialysis patients died as a result of the initial blackout and some 10,000 more are at risk if they continue without treatment.

Despite all this, President Nicolás Maduro, successor to the late Hugo Chavez, continues to insist that there is no humanitarian crisis.

SOURCES: https://www.nytimes.com/…/ame…/venzuela-blackout-maduro.html
https://www.npr.org/…/this-is-going-to-end-ugly-venezuela-s…
https://www.cbsnews.com/…/venezuela-as-blackout-continues-…/
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
March 12 2019 02:23 GMT
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You're starting a thread about Venezuela, with links from predominantly North American/English speaking news, and call it the South American Politics Thread? Did you even run it by the mods for inclusion in the various country's situation?

Not even one mention of Daniel Ortega and the Nicaraguan crisis? Argentina's tepid recovery?

I think a better introduction is sorely needed to encapsulate an entire CONTINENT'S politics. Or is Canada just some inferior version of America?
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JimmiC
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March 12 2019 19:48 GMT
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At this point it looks like Venezuela will devolve into anarchy. It shows how much of a failure socialist economics really is and how much damage it can do.
JimmiC
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GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 00:31:35
March 13 2019 00:22 GMT
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On March 13 2019 05:20 JimmiC wrote:
I'm not sure if it is failure of socialist economics so much as it is failure of socialism as a shield to hide monumental corruption. But your first sentence may very well come true.


Ah, the good old "it wasn't real socialism". Corruption IS socialism, and has a history of ruining south american countries.
Brazil until recently, Chile in the 1970, and now Argentina has 50% inflation and looks to not be able to get better.

Former president crony was caught burying bags of US dollars in a church, and despite that she remains somewhat popular (just like Lula from jail). They elected a moderate right wing president, but no fundamental changes have been done to their economy so they are still screwed (taxes got higher and government spending is still out of wack and totally unsustainable).

JimmiC
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BigFan
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TLADT24920 Posts
March 13 2019 00:47 GMT
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On March 12 2019 11:23 Danglars wrote:
You're starting a thread about Venezuela, with links from predominantly North American/English speaking news, and call it the South American Politics Thread? Did you even run it by the mods for inclusion in the various country's situation?

Not even one mention of Daniel Ortega and the Nicaraguan crisis? Argentina's tepid recovery?

I think a better introduction is sorely needed to encapsulate an entire CONTINENT'S politics. Or is Canada just some inferior version of America?

I can confirm that he did indeed run it by us and we agreed to it. Much as he mentioned, people are free to bring up the other topics seeing as this is a general SA thread. Of course, so far, the eyes are on Venezuela so who knows when the Nicaraguan crisis or Argentina's recovery will be brought up in this thread.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 01:04:22
March 13 2019 01:03 GMT
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On March 13 2019 09:41 JimmiC wrote:
Corruption is authoritarianism, there is many democratic socialist countries in northern europe that are doing fantastic and have low levels of corruption. There are also many rightwing autoritarians whose countries are rife with corruption. Sadly corruption finds both left and right.


Democratic socialist countries do not exist; it's a myth. Countries that were already prosperous because of the free market and now still have strong property rights and other freedoms, are able to afford high taxes and a welfare state, for now. Just look up any of them in the "freedom index", they are not socialist countries.

That said, since we are talking about latin american countries; every single latin american country that tried socialism completely fell apart or is falling apart before turning around. The notion that socialism will turn poor or developing nations into developed nordic countries is a senseless fantasy at the cost of blood and death. Venezuela's crisis did not start last year, it started over 15 years ago with Hugo Chavez, and many of the leftist around the world, both in latin america and outside, who are watching their hands now saying it "wasn't real socialism", supported him. We remember.

The nations that accepted that a free economy is the way foward are going upwards (Chile, Peru) and the ones that embraced socialism are falling apart or stuck in perpetual poberty. (Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba, Argentina, Bolivia).
The other nations play back and forth.
JimmiC
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