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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 07 2018 03:05 GMT
#18021
On November 07 2018 11:59 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 11:56 Lmui wrote:
On November 07 2018 11:55 plasmidghost wrote:
FL-26 got flipped, so it looks like the Dems might just barely take the House


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/06/us/elections/results-house-forecast.html

The ny forecast has democrats solidly in the lead for house, at ~232 seats, and senate at 53 for repubs.

It also seems to be a lot less volatile than the 538 one.

I was following 538 and it was crazy how quickly it changed, hopefully this model is right

it was like that in the first hour or two, they changed it to only react to called races and it's a lot more stable now.
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
November 07 2018 03:06 GMT
#18022
MSNBC is calling it. Kris Kobach is already dead.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 07 2018 03:07 GMT
#18023
holy shit, kansas was unexpected.
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
November 07 2018 03:08 GMT
#18024
Well, here's a list of the major trackers:

Bloomberg https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-midterm-election-results/?view=H&filter=none
CNN: https://edition.cnn.com/election/2018/results/house
538 live blog: https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2018-election-results-coverage/?ex_cid=extra_banner
Fox: https://www.foxnews.com/midterms-2018
NYTimes: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/06/us/elections/results-house-forecast.html

It's a nailbiter in a lot of cases, but seems likely that democrats retake house by a solid margin, and repubs solidify senate lead by ~2 seats.

After the first few hours things seem to have settled down a bit.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12193 Posts
November 07 2018 03:09 GMT
#18025
So many of the wins come from Pennsylvania redistricting...

You guys should be a little bit more mad about republicans stealing your representation
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IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
November 07 2018 03:15 GMT
#18026
Real human Ted Cruz back to the senate
Something witty
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44349 Posts
November 07 2018 03:16 GMT
#18027
Bob Menendez won the NJ Senate race! New Jersey pulled its own weight today.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 07 2018 03:19 GMT
#18028
On November 07 2018 12:07 ticklishmusic wrote:
holy shit, kansas was unexpected.

Fuck the senate, governors seats are huge. Sadly Florida isn’t going well, but it’s hard when 1.4 million black men can’t vote. And the state is pretty god damn racist. But next time around it will be a different story.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15689 Posts
November 07 2018 03:19 GMT
#18029
What did Democrats gain by opposing Kavanaugh?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-07 03:22:06
November 07 2018 03:21 GMT
#18030
On November 07 2018 12:19 Mohdoo wrote:
What did Democrats gain by opposing Kavanaugh?

Turn out? Women voters? It isn’t all about you, my guy.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
November 07 2018 03:24 GMT
#18031
Romney's made a comeback, because he's the new Utah senator. I suspect there will be a hope he could be one of the "principled conservatives" to be the bulwark against Trump, but I'm sure he'll bend the knee like all the rest of the moderate Rs in senate. As for Cruz-Beto, well, there was a slim chance for the miracle Doug Jones upset in my heart, but I knew it was a lalaland fantasy.

How do the Americans feel about the results? I know this thread is mostly Democrats, so are you satisfied with the Senate sacrifices and some state governors disappointments in exchange for control of the House? Seems like losing the Senate seats to solidify the Republican majority is a really bitter pill to swallow.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-07 03:26:03
November 07 2018 03:25 GMT
#18032
Florida continues to be Florida. This is a joint amendment because Florida.

Reminder that the clown stalking/sighting trend started in Florida too.

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-07 03:29:45
November 07 2018 03:28 GMT
#18033
On November 07 2018 12:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Romney's made a comeback, because he's the new Utah senator. I suspect there will be a hope he could be one of the "principled conservatives" to be the bulwark against Trump, but I'm sure he'll bend the knee like all the rest of the moderate Rs in senate. As for Cruz-Beto, well, there was a slim chance for the miracle Doug Jones upset in my heart, but I knew it was a lalaland fantasy.

How do the Americans feel about the results? I know this thread is mostly Democrats, so are you satisfied with the Senate sacrifices and some state governors disappointments in exchange for control of the House? Seems like losing the Senate seats to solidify the Republican majority is a really bitter pill to swallow.

Only 33 of the 100 seats in the senate are up for grabs. The democrats are defending this election. 2020 is a god damn blood bath for Republicans. A lot of senators people do not like are on the ballot.

It sucks, but it’s the nature of the beast. Democrats were never going main gains in the senate this election. But the filibuster still exists. Republicans can’t do shit without Democratic support.
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
November 07 2018 03:28 GMT
#18034
On November 07 2018 12:19 Mohdoo wrote:
What did Democrats gain by opposing Kavanaugh?


They also solidify the west coast a bit more (Not that R had much chance there anyways) and women's votes.

It probably cost the Indiana senate seat since Donnelly voted against him.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 07 2018 03:31 GMT
#18035
AP called Texas for Cruz
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-07 03:42:56
November 07 2018 03:39 GMT
#18036
On November 07 2018 12:19 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 12:07 ticklishmusic wrote:
holy shit, kansas was unexpected.

Fuck the senate, governors seats are huge. Sadly Florida isn’t going well, but it’s hard when 1.4 million black men can’t vote. And the state is pretty god damn racist. But next time around it will be a different story.

Woah dude, that is hugely out of line. Florida is not a racist state. How can you generalize a group of people like that? Maybe if Gillum didn't threaten to run our economy into a deficit he would have gotten more votes. To make this a race issue is just absurd. DeSantis is a very unexciting candidate, but at least he didn't threaten to tax the hell out of our state.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15689 Posts
November 07 2018 03:40 GMT
#18037
Poll: If Democrats take the house

Pelosi as speaker - no (12)
 
80%

Pelosi as speaker - yes (3)
 
20%

15 total votes

Your vote: If Democrats take the house

(Vote): Pelosi as speaker - yes
(Vote): Pelosi as speaker - no



I know how my Republicans homies feel, but I am curious about Democrats.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 07 2018 03:43 GMT
#18038
On November 07 2018 11:59 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 11:23 Plansix wrote:
It is an uphill fight for sure. No easy wins for democrats tonight. The hope is they pick up enough governors seats to undo the gerrymandering.

No matter what happens, people will be pissed tomorrow. Bitter, resentful politics for the next decade or more.

Edit: I would also watch PA, that had its gerrymandering overturned by their Supreme Court. It gives you an idea of how much of an advantage Republicans gave themselves in 2010.


You aren't kidding about gerrymandering. NYT is projecting D+9.6 popular vote yet Dems are projected to only gain a low 30 seat majority.

It gives you an idea of how much of an uphill battle democrats had and seem to be pulling ahead with. The Republicans build themselves a huge firewall. No surprises in the senate, but the House is slowly turning out for the Democrats.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 07 2018 03:44 GMT
#18039
Give her two more years. She can take the heat from both sides while a successor materializes. All she has to do is fundraise and whip votes. She can preach bipartisanship and whatever else while the Democratic caucus does work investigating Trump and crafting legislation.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
November 07 2018 03:44 GMT
#18040
Michigan Governor and AG looks to go Dem, whereas Ohio Gov and AG Repub.
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