EPTEdit: There it is. Graham cracked.
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Edit: There it is. Graham cracked. | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21687 Posts
On September 28 2018 05:18 nojok wrote: -Him being rail-roaded means they knew something existed that they needed to get ahead of.It was 40 years ago. It would be lying to expect proof, hell even one day old rapes can't be proven a lot of the time. Besides I read he already got investigated a lot because of his nomination. And finally, why so many people are considering him to be guilty? -3 accusers -claiming to be a perfect boy when there is numerous statements from class mates how he partied and drank. -Having a list of 65 women to confirm your character way to fast to have done after the allegations became public. -Ford telling her Therapist 6 years ago. And probably more that I am not thinking of right now. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On September 28 2018 05:36 plasmidghost wrote: What a fucking shitshow coming out of Kavanaugh, like others have said, even if it's totally proved that he's 100% innocent of the allegations, his temperament gives me more than enough reason to not support him You have to understand how a person would respond to these allegations (assuming that he's innocent). It would be inhuman to not react this way. IMO Kavanaugh is just as credible as Ford. I said before that Ford should be heard out, and I think this hearing has accomplished that, especially with the outside counsel questioning Kavanaugh. At this point, you can't put the burden of proof on Kavanaugh, and I'm not sure the evidence is strong enough. A barebones allegation just isn't enough. The best system available is one that minimizes false convictions, and that is why the burden is not on Kavanaugh. True, it's not a court of law, but the principle underlying the burden of proof is simple fairness. I don't think the allegations are grounds to sink Kavanaugh at this point (revenge for Garland is another matter, but that would have to be separate from these allegations). | ||
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3809 Posts
There goes Lindsey Graham | ||
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dankobanana
Croatia238 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On September 28 2018 05:46 On_Slaught wrote: OH NO Graham is asking his own questions instead of Mitchell! Edit: There it is. Graham cracked. Well, now we know why they had a woman do most of the questioning. | ||
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3809 Posts
Except for all those accusations | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44342 Posts
1. Given the dozens of times he's dodged the question, BK clearly doesn't want an FBI investigation. 2. Lindsey Graham has lost his mind. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On September 28 2018 05:46 On_Slaught wrote: OH NO Graham is asking his own questions instead of Mitchell! Edit: There it is. Graham cracked. I'm having a really hard time not making a Graham cracker joke. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21687 Posts
On September 28 2018 05:21 nojok wrote: You can thank the GOP for that, they didn't want an FBI investigation that Ford called for.It's almost like a trial without investigation which is what I find very disturbing. (probably because they feared what it would find). | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44342 Posts
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frazzle
United States468 Posts
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franzji
United States583 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On September 28 2018 05:48 Doodsmack wrote: You have to understand how a person would respond to these allegations (assuming that he's innocent). It would be inhuman to not react this way. IMO Kavanaugh is just as credible as Ford. I said before that Ford should be heard out, and I think this hearing has accomplished that, especially with the outside counsel questioning Kavanaugh. At this point, you can't put the burden of proof on Kavanaugh, and I'm not sure the evidence is strong enough. A barebones allegation just isn't enough. The best system available is one that minimizes false convictions, and that is why the burden is not on Kavanaugh. True, it's not a court of law, but the principle underlying the burden of proof is simple fairness. I don't think the allegations are grounds to sink Kavanaugh at this point (revenge for Garland is another matter, but that would have to be separate from these allegations). Yeah, that makes sense, I really shouldn't be letting my personal bias against the Republicans influence my thinking on this | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44342 Posts
On September 28 2018 05:56 youngjiddle wrote: I'm cracking up listening to them question him about his high school inside jokes. Like how he made fun of his friend who stuttered when saying words starting with the letter F? | ||
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dankobanana
Croatia238 Posts
On September 28 2018 05:48 Doodsmack wrote: You have to understand how a person would respond to these allegations (assuming that he's innocent). It would be inhuman to not react this way. IMO Kavanaugh is just as credible as Ford. I said before that Ford should be heard out, and I think this hearing has accomplished that, especially with the outside counsel questioning Kavanaugh. At this point, you can't put the burden of proof on Kavanaugh, and I'm not sure the evidence is strong enough. A barebones allegation just isn't enough. The best system available is one that minimizes false convictions, and that is why the burden is not on Kavanaugh. True, it's not a court of law, but the principle underlying the burden of proof is simple fairness. I don't think the allegations are grounds to sink Kavanaugh at this point (revenge for Garland is another matter, but that would have to be separate from these allegations). I agree. The only problem here is a political one. Trying to make him judge before the "deadline" | ||
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