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GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 27 2018 02:06 GMT
#14821
On September 27 2018 11:00 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 10:56 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:52 Simberto wrote:
Also, it is incredibly important to confirm him before the elections. As opposed to in 2016, when it was incredibly important to not even think about a supreme court justice until after the elections. It is very important to have clear principles in those matters as a conservative.


Yes Republicans should use their super majority to push their nominee; democrats have done all they can to stall on the opposite side; remember how the made jackasses of themselves, "I'm Spartacus", the protestors, etc etc before the acusations that Feinstein conveniently omitted for 6 weeks during which tens of oral and written interviews with Kavanaugh were conducted. This is partisan game by both parties.

They don’t have a super majority. They have a thin majority by one vote. And Trump nominated a sentient jar of mayonnaise that happens to be a mean drunk.


I stand corrected, I meant president+senate majority.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
September 27 2018 03:33 GMT
#14822
I feel like 99% sure that no matter what gets said tomorrow, the vote's still going to be Friday and Kavanaugh's going to get confirmed. I don't even know what could be said to get the Republicans to delay or even outright cancel the vote
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
September 27 2018 03:55 GMT
#14823
On September 27 2018 12:33 plasmidghost wrote:
I feel like 99% sure that no matter what gets said tomorrow, the vote's still going to be Friday and Kavanaugh's going to get confirmed. I don't even know what could be said to get the Republicans to delay or even outright cancel the vote

Not much. But the hope is not necessarily to get Republicans to suddenly have a conscience, or a moral compass, and change course. It's to make the fuss this deserves, so that when the Republicans charge forward headfirst, like they are want to do, and confirm him anyway, the people will remember when they turn out for the midterms.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
September 27 2018 04:01 GMT
#14824
Unsurprisingly, Kavanough's favorability among Republican women is starting to tank according to numerous recent polls. The majority of them still support him, but if this rodeo is just getting started then it's gonna keep getting worse for the Republicans. Way I see it, they either push him through asap, which is questionable already if a few senators deflect given recent news, or they pull him/get him to withdraw. Drawing this out is looking like the worst case scenario. Even if they can't pinpoint Kavanough personally doing anything horrible, it's sounding more and more like he ran with a crowd that did some pretty disgusting things. That association alone could be enough to taint his nomination. The last thing he needs is more people coming out from his college days to talk about all the depravity that took place.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2018 04:40 GMT
#14825
On September 27 2018 12:33 plasmidghost wrote:
I feel like 99% sure that no matter what gets said tomorrow, the vote's still going to be Friday and Kavanaugh's going to get confirmed. I don't even know what could be said to get the Republicans to delay or even outright cancel the vote

The vote for Friday is to move the process out of the judiciary committee. The floor vote won’t be for a week or two after that. At the rate things are going, it isn’t likely he will have the votes by then.
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
September 27 2018 08:59 GMT
#14826
On September 27 2018 09:54 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 09:49 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 09:45 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 09:36 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 09:30 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 09:26 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 09:23 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 08:32 iamthedave wrote:
On September 27 2018 04:29 JimmiC wrote:
On September 27 2018 03:58 Sermokala wrote:
[quote]
It being free speech while being an employee at a company doesn't give you protection for said free speech. That company can decide to not support your views but that doesn't mean that people are against your right to speech.


My point was that the same people calling down the UK were the same people supporting the NFL in banning kneeling. In fact they were asking for it.

They are also the same people that chased Howard Stern off terrestrial radio for saying awful words that may pollute the minds of the youths such as penis. Or talking about lesbians.

The hypocrisy of American politics is at a all time high. And everyone is ready to die on whatever hill the current event is and what there side wants. Some of this shit shouldn't be about red or blue it should be about whats right.


I'm still vaguely stunned that the Republicans are pushing so hard for this to keep going. No-one with this much shit surrounding him would still maintain party support in the UK. By the time of the third accuser everything would be put on hold pending an investigation, or they'd just pivot to someone else entirely, because it looks fucking dreadful to be the party trying to appoint a potential sex offender to a position of high office.

Or at least it does to me and my fellow earthlings. Obviously Republicans consider this a bonus on a resume at this point.

On September 27 2018 05:27 ticklishmusic wrote:
On September 27 2018 05:22 On_Slaught wrote:
[quote]

Lol ok let's just ignore the other two women then. Not like they could possibly justify announcing that the vote wont be able to happen in light of the other women's accusations. Maybe they are afraid more women will come out.

Apparently Kavanaugh denied Swetnicks accusations under oath himself. So now we have 2 employees of the federal government accusing each other of crimes (one for sexual misconduct and the other for lying under oath) under threat of perjury. Sounds to me like good cause to slow things down.


So what you're saying is we need a complete and utter shutdown till we can figure out what the hell is going on.


Or - and stay with me here! - the Republicans could... nominate... someone... who doesn't... have... a sexual abuse accusation against them.

Why is this such an unthinkably awful suggestion? I literally do not understand why Brett Kavanaugh MUST BE THE GUY. What's he going to do that's so important? The only reason I can see at this point is because of WE MUST WIN mentality, which is fucking stupid because, as I've already said, the optics are awful.

The Republicans can get a friendly nominee and good optics for essentially nothing, and avoid a giant headache and the possibility that these allegations end up sticking AFTER the nomination.

On September 27 2018 08:30 Mohdoo wrote:
On September 27 2018 08:27 Plansix wrote:
[quote]
If this is some sort of conspiracy, it is being executed with with military precision and timing. Which means there is no way it was the democrats.


If we shit the bed with all 3 branches, I'm surprised we even have a functional facebook page.


Wait a moment, wait a moment. Have you checked to make sure the Democrats are actually running that Facebook page? That might explain the discrepancy here.


I am too tired to defend Kavanaugh so we can ommit that point and answer your question.
Republicans can't just flop with unsupported acussations because it would set an standard that would haunt them forever. Acussations 1 and 2 seem incredibly staged and vague, respectively.

Now that there is an acussation from a third person that moved to basically pre meditated gang rape, over many many parties, I suppose a bunch of woman and/or evidence should be appearing briefly if they were true. And none if they are false.

Also, while you may think that this is affecting them, this is not true according to the latest polls; Republican popularity has risen nearly 10 points since last year; Democrat is pretty much the same.

Al Franken exists and the democrats forced him to resign based on similar, if not as terrible(no attempted rape) claims. McConnell backed those claims when they were against Franken. I see no problem with them pulling their support in these circumstances.


I think you are missing the point. Republicans can't be folding whenever someone makes up an acussation with 0 evidence, as Mrs. Ford and the other lady. We now have a 3rd lady, whose acussations are much worse, but also seem a lot easier to prove so if true, evidence should show up pretty damn soon.

Honestly I'm not familiar with Al Franken.

The same thing happened to him. Several women claimed he touched them in appropriately before he was a senator. He denied doing anything inappropriate, but the democrats in the senate pushed him to resign and he did. None of the accusations were of rape or attempted rape, but he still resigned. The Republicans can do the same, they just don’t want to because well, they either don’t care or don’t believe the women. And a poll today of registered Republicans showed 55% wanted Kavanaugh confirmed even if the charges were true.


Yeah that is somewhat my point. I don't have any reason to believe Ms. Ford or the second lady. That might change on thursday with new evidence, or with the new acusser who is just too recent to know anything else.
Republicans just feel much more strongly on the "innocent until proven guilty", aside from the partisan lines obviously.

Innocent until proven guilty doesn’t really apply outside of the criminal justice system. And it most definitely doesn’t apply in a senate confirmation. They aren’t voting to send him to prison, just to see if he gets promoted.


Outside the criminal justice "inocent until proven guilt" applies to the extent people want to apply it. As I said it's just an interpretation thing; democrats feel more strongly about believing someone in a "victim" position despite no evidence, while republicans feel more strongly about someone being innocent until proven guilty. Aside from party lines obviously.

Republicans don't at all believe in innocent until proven guilty. They don't apply it to political opposition such as Hillary Clinton, or to black people murdered by police such as Trayvon Martin. But when men are accused of rape they become champions of due process and skepticism. This concept of innocent until proven guilty cannot be understood without taking party lines into account. In general all politicians are hypocrites, and that's not necessarily bad because being a politician is a bit like being a lawyer: you use whatever arguments apply to defend your side.

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On September 27 2018 07:56 Wulfey_LA wrote:
I changed my mind. Yeah. Put him on the court with 51 Republican votes. Dems need to turn it way down on KAVANAUGH for the next few days so we can impeach him later. Just make sure they get each every one of his preposterous denials on record and under oath. Republicans have 51 votes for a Republican justice, better someone we can toss later than someone like GORSUCH who doesn't have a swarm of sexual assault accusations.

Gorsuch went to the same prep school in nearly the same year as Kavanaugh though. He could easily have been at the same parties where Kavanaugh apparently gangraped women. There haven't been any allegations against him as far as I know, but it would hardly surprise me to discover widespread sexual misconduct among high schoolers in that school and in fraternities in Yale. Apparently Georgetown Prep costs 60k$ a year(!) to attend, it can't help but produce a fair share of entitled young men who take consent lightly, especially in the 80's.

And I mean, it's common knowledge that fraternity drinking culture is in many ways a game of getting women drunk. Alcohol serves as a date rape drug. If there was a #metoo movement for fraternities it would never end, there'd be infinitely many incidents.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 10:49:20
September 27 2018 10:46 GMT
#14827
This is what desperation looks like. There is no reason to release information about these calls to the public. They are just trying to discredit Ford by whatever terrible means necessary.

https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1045165494150533120?s=20
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24741 Posts
September 27 2018 10:51 GMT
#14828
Most of the headlines I've seen while scrolling through news aggregate sites have been announcing new accusations against Kavanaugh. However, there is always one Fox news item in the list, and it is always an attempt to discredit one of the previous accusers. I think it's been 100% for the past week.
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PeTraSoHot
Profile Joined February 2018
0 Posts
September 27 2018 11:17 GMT
#14829
On September 27 2018 11:00 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 10:56 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:52 Simberto wrote:
Also, it is incredibly important to confirm him before the elections. As opposed to in 2016, when it was incredibly important to not even think about a supreme court justice until after the elections. It is very important to have clear principles in those matters as a conservative.


Yes Republicans should use their super majority to push their nominee; democrats have done all they can to stall on the opposite side; remember how the made jackasses of themselves, "I'm Spartacus", the protestors, etc etc before the acusations that Feinstein conveniently omitted for 6 weeks during which tens of oral and written interviews with Kavanaugh were conducted. This is partisan game by both parties.

They don’t have a super majority. They have a thin majority by one vote. And Trump nominated a sentient jar of mayonnaise that happens to be a mean drunk.

Do you at least admit that you're racist?
Pretty sure it'd be a swift perma-ban if you called an Indian guy a sentient bowl of curry.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9632 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 11:30:50
September 27 2018 11:21 GMT
#14830
On September 27 2018 20:17 PeTraSoHot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 11:00 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:56 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:52 Simberto wrote:
Also, it is incredibly important to confirm him before the elections. As opposed to in 2016, when it was incredibly important to not even think about a supreme court justice until after the elections. It is very important to have clear principles in those matters as a conservative.


Yes Republicans should use their super majority to push their nominee; democrats have done all they can to stall on the opposite side; remember how the made jackasses of themselves, "I'm Spartacus", the protestors, etc etc before the acusations that Feinstein conveniently omitted for 6 weeks during which tens of oral and written interviews with Kavanaugh were conducted. This is partisan game by both parties.

They don’t have a super majority. They have a thin majority by one vote. And Trump nominated a sentient jar of mayonnaise that happens to be a mean drunk.

Do you at least admit that you're racist?
Pretty sure it'd be a swift perma-ban if you called an Indian guy a sentient bowl of curry.

lol. TIL mayonnaise is some racist epithet. I didn’t even know mayo was the majority domain of the whites. guess i have to start reading more alex jones.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8165 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 11:37:24
September 27 2018 11:33 GMT
#14831
On September 27 2018 20:17 PeTraSoHot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 11:00 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:56 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:52 Simberto wrote:
Also, it is incredibly important to confirm him before the elections. As opposed to in 2016, when it was incredibly important to not even think about a supreme court justice until after the elections. It is very important to have clear principles in those matters as a conservative.


Yes Republicans should use their super majority to push their nominee; democrats have done all they can to stall on the opposite side; remember how the made jackasses of themselves, "I'm Spartacus", the protestors, etc etc before the acusations that Feinstein conveniently omitted for 6 weeks during which tens of oral and written interviews with Kavanaugh were conducted. This is partisan game by both parties.

They don’t have a super majority. They have a thin majority by one vote. And Trump nominated a sentient jar of mayonnaise that happens to be a mean drunk.

Do you at least admit that you're racist?
Pretty sure it'd be a swift perma-ban if you called an Indian guy a sentient bowl of curry.


I genuinely don't know enough of Indian history to know of any one person I'd think evil enough to be called that. However since the topic was racism and not India specifically, I am comfortable calling, for instance, Bill Cosby a revolting sentient ball of tar. This has nothing to do with racism, and everything to do with how that person acts as an individual

On September 27 2018 20:21 brian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 20:17 PeTraSoHot wrote:
On September 27 2018 11:00 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:56 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:52 Simberto wrote:
Also, it is incredibly important to confirm him before the elections. As opposed to in 2016, when it was incredibly important to not even think about a supreme court justice until after the elections. It is very important to have clear principles in those matters as a conservative.


Yes Republicans should use their super majority to push their nominee; democrats have done all they can to stall on the opposite side; remember how the made jackasses of themselves, "I'm Spartacus", the protestors, etc etc before the acusations that Feinstein conveniently omitted for 6 weeks during which tens of oral and written interviews with Kavanaugh were conducted. This is partisan game by both parties.

They don’t have a super majority. They have a thin majority by one vote. And Trump nominated a sentient jar of mayonnaise that happens to be a mean drunk.

Do you at least admit that you're racist?
Pretty sure it'd be a swift perma-ban if you called an Indian guy a sentient bowl of curry.

lol. TIL mayonnaise is some racist epithet. I didn’t even know mayo was the majority domain of the whites. guess i have to start reading more alex jones.


Well it's about the color of the mayo and not the user group. And of course when you call someone a name there has to be some sort of resemblance to the item you're calling him. That doesn't make it racist in the least.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2018 11:47 GMT
#14832
Mayonnaise is bland and gross looking.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11630 Posts
September 27 2018 11:57 GMT
#14833
On September 27 2018 20:33 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 20:17 PeTraSoHot wrote:
On September 27 2018 11:00 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:56 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:52 Simberto wrote:
Also, it is incredibly important to confirm him before the elections. As opposed to in 2016, when it was incredibly important to not even think about a supreme court justice until after the elections. It is very important to have clear principles in those matters as a conservative.


Yes Republicans should use their super majority to push their nominee; democrats have done all they can to stall on the opposite side; remember how the made jackasses of themselves, "I'm Spartacus", the protestors, etc etc before the acusations that Feinstein conveniently omitted for 6 weeks during which tens of oral and written interviews with Kavanaugh were conducted. This is partisan game by both parties.

They don’t have a super majority. They have a thin majority by one vote. And Trump nominated a sentient jar of mayonnaise that happens to be a mean drunk.

Do you at least admit that you're racist?
Pretty sure it'd be a swift perma-ban if you called an Indian guy a sentient bowl of curry.


I genuinely don't know enough of Indian history to know of any one person I'd think evil enough to be called that. However since the topic was racism and not India specifically, I am comfortable calling, for instance, Bill Cosby a revolting sentient ball of tar. This has nothing to do with racism, and everything to do with how that person acts as an individual

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 20:21 brian wrote:
On September 27 2018 20:17 PeTraSoHot wrote:
On September 27 2018 11:00 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:56 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:52 Simberto wrote:
Also, it is incredibly important to confirm him before the elections. As opposed to in 2016, when it was incredibly important to not even think about a supreme court justice until after the elections. It is very important to have clear principles in those matters as a conservative.


Yes Republicans should use their super majority to push their nominee; democrats have done all they can to stall on the opposite side; remember how the made jackasses of themselves, "I'm Spartacus", the protestors, etc etc before the acusations that Feinstein conveniently omitted for 6 weeks during which tens of oral and written interviews with Kavanaugh were conducted. This is partisan game by both parties.

They don’t have a super majority. They have a thin majority by one vote. And Trump nominated a sentient jar of mayonnaise that happens to be a mean drunk.

Do you at least admit that you're racist?
Pretty sure it'd be a swift perma-ban if you called an Indian guy a sentient bowl of curry.

lol. TIL mayonnaise is some racist epithet. I didn’t even know mayo was the majority domain of the whites. guess i have to start reading more alex jones.


Well it's about the color of the mayo and not the user group. And of course when you call someone a name there has to be some sort of resemblance to the item you're calling him. That doesn't make it racist in the least.


Interesting. My interpretation had been that a jar of mayonaise is pretty disgusting.

Also interesting how the right-wing people always jump out with "OMG racism against whites!!!" if something has even the slightest possibility of being a negative statement against a white person, as if that actually were some major problem in society. But anything that might be interpreted as racist against other people (Like, for example, comparing a black men to a monkey) is always just the left wing overreacting to totally innocent statements that totally didn't mean that at all, no matter how often they occur.

Similar to how it is always "We must make very, utterly, completely, totally sure that the accuser is not lying before even considering thinking about an investigation" when talking about something like a supreme court nominee being accused of sexual assault, but when it is a subject as serious as an Email server, there need to be many investigations just to make totally sure.

And if some people shroud a statue or dare to kneel during the anthem, that is a horrible insult to america and must be dealt with, but when other people march around with tiki torches and nazi symbology, that is just freedom of speech and there are good people on both sides.

It is weird how the right-wing simply cannot see the absurd double standard they are applying in so many situations.
PeTraSoHot
Profile Joined February 2018
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 13:00:11
September 27 2018 12:32 GMT
#14834
On September 27 2018 20:57 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 20:33 Excludos wrote:
On September 27 2018 20:17 PeTraSoHot wrote:
On September 27 2018 11:00 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:56 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:52 Simberto wrote:
Also, it is incredibly important to confirm him before the elections. As opposed to in 2016, when it was incredibly important to not even think about a supreme court justice until after the elections. It is very important to have clear principles in those matters as a conservative.


Yes Republicans should use their super majority to push their nominee; democrats have done all they can to stall on the opposite side; remember how the made jackasses of themselves, "I'm Spartacus", the protestors, etc etc before the acusations that Feinstein conveniently omitted for 6 weeks during which tens of oral and written interviews with Kavanaugh were conducted. This is partisan game by both parties.

They don’t have a super majority. They have a thin majority by one vote. And Trump nominated a sentient jar of mayonnaise that happens to be a mean drunk.

Do you at least admit that you're racist?
Pretty sure it'd be a swift perma-ban if you called an Indian guy a sentient bowl of curry.


I genuinely don't know enough of Indian history to know of any one person I'd think evil enough to be called that. However since the topic was racism and not India specifically, I am comfortable calling, for instance, Bill Cosby a revolting sentient ball of tar. This has nothing to do with racism, and everything to do with how that person acts as an individual

On September 27 2018 20:21 brian wrote:
On September 27 2018 20:17 PeTraSoHot wrote:
On September 27 2018 11:00 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:56 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:52 Simberto wrote:
Also, it is incredibly important to confirm him before the elections. As opposed to in 2016, when it was incredibly important to not even think about a supreme court justice until after the elections. It is very important to have clear principles in those matters as a conservative.


Yes Republicans should use their super majority to push their nominee; democrats have done all they can to stall on the opposite side; remember how the made jackasses of themselves, "I'm Spartacus", the protestors, etc etc before the acusations that Feinstein conveniently omitted for 6 weeks during which tens of oral and written interviews with Kavanaugh were conducted. This is partisan game by both parties.

They don’t have a super majority. They have a thin majority by one vote. And Trump nominated a sentient jar of mayonnaise that happens to be a mean drunk.

Do you at least admit that you're racist?
Pretty sure it'd be a swift perma-ban if you called an Indian guy a sentient bowl of curry.

lol. TIL mayonnaise is some racist epithet. I didn’t even know mayo was the majority domain of the whites. guess i have to start reading more alex jones.


Well it's about the color of the mayo and not the user group. And of course when you call someone a name there has to be some sort of resemblance to the item you're calling him. That doesn't make it racist in the least.


Interesting. My interpretation had been that a jar of mayonaise is pretty disgusting.

Also interesting how the right-wing people always jump out with "OMG racism against whites!!!" if something has even the slightest possibility of being a negative statement against a white person, as if that actually were some major problem in society. But anything that might be interpreted as racist against other people (Like, for example, comparing a black men to a monkey) is always just the left wing overreacting to totally innocent statements that totally didn't mean that at all, no matter how often they occur.

Similar to how it is always "We must make very, utterly, completely, totally sure that the accuser is not lying before even considering thinking about an investigation" when talking about something like a supreme court nominee being accused of sexual assault, but when it is a subject as serious as an Email server, there need to be many investigations just to make totally sure.

And if some people shroud a statue or dare to kneel during the anthem, that is a horrible insult to america and must be dealt with, but when other people march around with tiki torches and nazi symbology, that is just freedom of speech and there are good people on both sides.

It is weird how the right-wing simply cannot see the absurd double standard they are applying in so many situations.

Weren't YOU trying to lecture me about "whataboutism" the other day?
...
It is an outright lie to say that the "sentient jar of mayonnaise" comment just had the "slightest possibility of being a negative statement against a white person." It was blatant, but you don't care.
As for a monkey comparison, I'd like to see the context, but I'm sure you don't care so go burn down another H&M.
Anthem crap - The left lie about police (when the truth is problematic enough) and don't acknowledge the significance of common tradition and patriotism. The right lie that the protest is about the flag and the anthem, though the left doesn't like those either.
Charlottesville - When you have an original thought to express on the matter, I'm happy to comment. Let's not exchange talking points.
Statues - "Shroud" a statue? You, sir, are shrouding the truth.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4733 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 12:50:29
September 27 2018 12:50 GMT
#14835
I agree that Mayonnaise is gross, but it still feels like pretty strange epithet.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 12:59:21
September 27 2018 12:56 GMT
#14836
On September 27 2018 21:50 Silvanel wrote:
I agree that Mayonnaise is gross, but it still feels like pretty strange epithet.

Its bland, slimy, boring people with the complexity of un-spiced egg salad that goes bad after 2 hours in the sun. Mayonnaise on its own is gross. I could call him a potato too, since those are pretty dull on their own.
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4733 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 13:07:58
September 27 2018 13:07 GMT
#14837
Well, i am not saying its racist i am saying its strange and uncommon to call someone Mayonnaise, at least to me. On similiar note since curry is tasty as fuck can i use it as compliment?
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9632 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 13:40:53
September 27 2018 13:08 GMT
#14838
On September 27 2018 21:32 PeTraSoHot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 20:57 Simberto wrote:
On September 27 2018 20:33 Excludos wrote:
On September 27 2018 20:17 PeTraSoHot wrote:
On September 27 2018 11:00 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:56 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:52 Simberto wrote:
Also, it is incredibly important to confirm him before the elections. As opposed to in 2016, when it was incredibly important to not even think about a supreme court justice until after the elections. It is very important to have clear principles in those matters as a conservative.


Yes Republicans should use their super majority to push their nominee; democrats have done all they can to stall on the opposite side; remember how the made jackasses of themselves, "I'm Spartacus", the protestors, etc etc before the acusations that Feinstein conveniently omitted for 6 weeks during which tens of oral and written interviews with Kavanaugh were conducted. This is partisan game by both parties.

They don’t have a super majority. They have a thin majority by one vote. And Trump nominated a sentient jar of mayonnaise that happens to be a mean drunk.

Do you at least admit that you're racist?
Pretty sure it'd be a swift perma-ban if you called an Indian guy a sentient bowl of curry.


I genuinely don't know enough of Indian history to know of any one person I'd think evil enough to be called that. However since the topic was racism and not India specifically, I am comfortable calling, for instance, Bill Cosby a revolting sentient ball of tar. This has nothing to do with racism, and everything to do with how that person acts as an individual

On September 27 2018 20:21 brian wrote:
On September 27 2018 20:17 PeTraSoHot wrote:
On September 27 2018 11:00 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:56 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 10:52 Simberto wrote:
Also, it is incredibly important to confirm him before the elections. As opposed to in 2016, when it was incredibly important to not even think about a supreme court justice until after the elections. It is very important to have clear principles in those matters as a conservative.


Yes Republicans should use their super majority to push their nominee; democrats have done all they can to stall on the opposite side; remember how the made jackasses of themselves, "I'm Spartacus", the protestors, etc etc before the acusations that Feinstein conveniently omitted for 6 weeks during which tens of oral and written interviews with Kavanaugh were conducted. This is partisan game by both parties.

They don’t have a super majority. They have a thin majority by one vote. And Trump nominated a sentient jar of mayonnaise that happens to be a mean drunk.

Do you at least admit that you're racist?
Pretty sure it'd be a swift perma-ban if you called an Indian guy a sentient bowl of curry.

lol. TIL mayonnaise is some racist epithet. I didn’t even know mayo was the majority domain of the whites. guess i have to start reading more alex jones.


Well it's about the color of the mayo and not the user group. And of course when you call someone a name there has to be some sort of resemblance to the item you're calling him. That doesn't make it racist in the least.


Interesting. My interpretation had been that a jar of mayonaise is pretty disgusting.

Also interesting how the right-wing people always jump out with "OMG racism against whites!!!" if something has even the slightest possibility of being a negative statement against a white person, as if that actually were some major problem in society. But anything that might be interpreted as racist against other people (Like, for example, comparing a black men to a monkey) is always just the left wing overreacting to totally innocent statements that totally didn't mean that at all, no matter how often they occur.

Similar to how it is always "We must make very, utterly, completely, totally sure that the accuser is not lying before even considering thinking about an investigation" when talking about something like a supreme court nominee being accused of sexual assault, but when it is a subject as serious as an Email server, there need to be many investigations just to make totally sure.

And if some people shroud a statue or dare to kneel during the anthem, that is a horrible insult to america and must be dealt with, but when other people march around with tiki torches and nazi symbology, that is just freedom of speech and there are good people on both sides.

It is weird how the right-wing simply cannot see the absurd double standard they are applying in so many situations.

Weren't YOU trying to lecture me about "whataboutism" the other day?
...
It is an outright lie to say that the "sentient jar of mayonnaise" comment just had the "slightest possibility of being a negative statement against a white person." It was blatant, but you don't care.
As for a monkey comparison, I'd like to see the context, but I'm sure you don't care so go burn down another H&M.
Anthem crap - The left lie about police (when the truth is problematic enough) and don't acknowledge the significance of common tradition and patriotism. The right lie that the protest is about the flag and the anthem, though the left doesn't like those either.
Charlottesville - When you have an original thought to express on the matter, I'm happy to comment. Let's not exchange talking points.
Statues - "Shroud" a statue? You, sir, are shrouding the truth.


no, you’re wrong here. there is nothing racist in calling a person a jar of mayonnaise. your post was a steaming pile of shit. luckily your post wasn’t brown lest i be accused of racism. in the immortal words of Norm MacDonald (in Billy Madison) we are all dumber for having read it. i award you no points.

the entire substance of your post was a failed strawman(which desperately needs citation) aside from the nutjob attempt at a GOTCHA.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 27 2018 13:08 GMT
#14839
The plot thickens. Two men lol.

Two men say they, not Brett Kavanaugh, had alleged sexual encounter with Christine Ford

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/26/brett-kavanaugh-two-men-say-they-had-disputed-sexual-encounter-christine-ford/1439569002/


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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 13:21:20
September 27 2018 13:19 GMT
#14840
On September 27 2018 22:07 Silvanel wrote:
Well, i am not saying its racist i am saying its strange and uncommon to call someone Mayonnaise, at least to me. On similiar note since curry is tasty as fuck can i use it as compliment?

Curry in its raw form does not evoke the strong emotional feelings that raw mayonnaise does. The blueberry bagel is a crime against food, so I might be able to work that into an insult. Maybe wonder bread for being complete trash. Or that weird can of rotting fish that comes from Sweden. Or unflavored gelatin. Or lemon Jello. All these things are kinda gross.
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