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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9066 Posts
September 27 2018 13:21 GMT
#14841
On September 27 2018 22:08 GoTuNk! wrote:
The plot thickens. Two men lol.

Two men say they, not Brett Kavanaugh, had alleged sexual encounter with Christine Ford

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/26/brett-kavanaugh-two-men-say-they-had-disputed-sexual-encounter-christine-ford/1439569002/

Took them long enough to find someone/some persons to take the fall and throw the doubt of Ford into the wind.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 13:24:44
September 27 2018 13:24 GMT
#14842
On September 27 2018 22:08 GoTuNk! wrote:
The plot thickens. Two men lol.

Two men say they, not Brett Kavanaugh, had alleged sexual encounter with Christine Ford

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/26/brett-kavanaugh-two-men-say-they-had-disputed-sexual-encounter-christine-ford/1439569002/


Ignoring the fact that there are other allegations against the man, Maryland has no statute of limitations on rape. If these two men go down as the men who took part in Ford's situation, then the Republican Party can very well let Maryland know that they have a potential rape situation on their hands that they might want to deal with.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46467 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 13:24:59
September 27 2018 13:24 GMT
#14843
On September 27 2018 22:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 22:08 GoTuNk! wrote:
The plot thickens. Two men lol.

Two men say they, not Brett Kavanaugh, had alleged sexual encounter with Christine Ford

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/26/brett-kavanaugh-two-men-say-they-had-disputed-sexual-encounter-christine-ford/1439569002/

Took them long enough to find someone/some persons to take the fall and throw the doubt of Ford into the wind.


This should be interesting indeed.

On September 27 2018 22:24 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 22:08 GoTuNk! wrote:
The plot thickens. Two men lol.

Two men say they, not Brett Kavanaugh, had alleged sexual encounter with Christine Ford

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/26/brett-kavanaugh-two-men-say-they-had-disputed-sexual-encounter-christine-ford/1439569002/


Ignoring the fact that there are other allegations against the man, Maryland has no statute of limitations on rape. If these two men go down as the men who took part in Ford's situation, then the Republican Party can very well let Maryland know that they have a potential rape situation on their hands that they might want to deal with.


Can Trump pardon them?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 27 2018 13:25 GMT
#14844
On September 27 2018 22:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 22:08 GoTuNk! wrote:
The plot thickens. Two men lol.

Two men say they, not Brett Kavanaugh, had alleged sexual encounter with Christine Ford

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/26/brett-kavanaugh-two-men-say-they-had-disputed-sexual-encounter-christine-ford/1439569002/

Took them long enough to find someone/some persons to take the fall and throw the doubt of Ford into the wind.


But I tought all vicitims should be believed! What do they have to gain?

Why ask for evidence when we have their testimonies.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 13:32:04
September 27 2018 13:30 GMT
#14845
On September 27 2018 22:25 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 22:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2018 22:08 GoTuNk! wrote:
The plot thickens. Two men lol.

Two men say they, not Brett Kavanaugh, had alleged sexual encounter with Christine Ford

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/26/brett-kavanaugh-two-men-say-they-had-disputed-sexual-encounter-christine-ford/1439569002/

Took them long enough to find someone/some persons to take the fall and throw the doubt of Ford into the wind.


But I tought all vicitims should be believed! What do they have to gain?

Why ask for evidence when we have their testimonies.

They are not the victim of a crime. They claim to have committed one and are turning themselves in(?), but the public doesn’t get to know their names. The victims in this case that are being taken seriously used their full names and released them to the public. We should hold these two potential criminals to the same standard.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 13:32:34
September 27 2018 13:32 GMT
#14846
On September 27 2018 22:25 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 22:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2018 22:08 GoTuNk! wrote:
The plot thickens. Two men lol.

Two men say they, not Brett Kavanaugh, had alleged sexual encounter with Christine Ford

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/26/brett-kavanaugh-two-men-say-they-had-disputed-sexual-encounter-christine-ford/1439569002/

Took them long enough to find someone/some persons to take the fall and throw the doubt of Ford into the wind.


But I tought all vicitims should be believed! What do they have to gain?

Why ask for evidence when we have their testimonies.


First of all, they're not victims. They're the potential perpetrators.

Second of all, it assumes that Ford can't remember one man from another.

Third of all, Maryland has no statute of limitations. The Republican Party know who these people are, are they going to be reported to the Maryland authorities? Because there's a possible rape situation that might want to be dealt with by the authorities.

Fourth of all, these people are anonymous. Making up anonymous sources to muddy the waters isn't new, Project Veritas paid a woman to lie about a Roy Moore situation to try and discredit the Washington Post. Like I said, if these people want to expose themselves they're very welcome to do so. Maryland might want to know about this situation after all.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 13:33:18
September 27 2018 13:32 GMT
#14847
On September 27 2018 22:30 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 22:25 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 22:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2018 22:08 GoTuNk! wrote:
The plot thickens. Two men lol.

Two men say they, not Brett Kavanaugh, had alleged sexual encounter with Christine Ford

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/26/brett-kavanaugh-two-men-say-they-had-disputed-sexual-encounter-christine-ford/1439569002/

Took them long enough to find someone/some persons to take the fall and throw the doubt of Ford into the wind.


But I tought all vicitims should be believed! What do they have to gain?

Why ask for evidence when we have their testimonies.

They are not the victim of a crime. They claim to have committed one and are turning themselves in(?), but the public doesn’t get to know their names.


Just busting your collective balls with the same phrasing. Maybe they have a concious and felt guilty about an innocent man being smeared!?

They did provide written testimonies and are being investigated as we speak, we will know about them soon enough.
I won't draw any conclusions either way before knowing more.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 13:44:49
September 27 2018 13:44 GMT
#14848
Then Ford is mistaken and Republican Party can go tell Maryland about the situation. One where two separate unrelated men both think they might be Kavanaugh's doppelganger.

Which still doesn't erase the existence of the other separate allegations against Kavanaugh.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2018 13:47 GMT
#14849
I still want to know about the 200k in credit card debt for “baseball trickets”. Because people have done that math and it’s a crazy amount of baseball tickets.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 27 2018 13:55 GMT
#14850
On September 27 2018 21:56 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 21:50 Silvanel wrote:
I agree that Mayonnaise is gross, but it still feels like pretty strange epithet.

Its bland, slimy, boring people with the complexity of un-spiced egg salad that goes bad after 2 hours in the sun. Mayonnaise on its own is gross. I could call him a potato too, since those are pretty dull on their own.

See potato might be tricky, depending on if he has any Irish heritage.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 27 2018 13:57 GMT
#14851
--- Nuked ---
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 27 2018 13:59 GMT
#14852
Hearing is about to start (YouTube live for livestream). Looks like she showed up in the end. The next 24h, between this, Rosenstein, and the vote tomorrow, are going to be historic.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 14:03:48
September 27 2018 14:03 GMT
#14853
It seemed more likely than not she would show, once you factor in that she has less than no reason to make her travel plans public, on account of the death threats, and people looking for every reason to call her a liar. In any case... buckle up.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2018 14:04 GMT
#14854
Rosenstein meeting is likely off. It wasn’t on the president’s schedule this morning.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 14:06:25
September 27 2018 14:05 GMT
#14855
5mins of questioning from each Senator after an opening statement from each key person (Ford and Kavanaugh). Most, if not all, of the Republicans time will be used by the prosecutor Rachel Mitchell.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2018 14:08 GMT
#14856
On September 27 2018 23:05 On_Slaught wrote:
5mins of questioning from each Senator after an opening statement from each key person (Ford and Kavanaugh). Most, if not all, of the Republicans time will be used by the prosecutor Rachel Mitchell.

This is going to look so weird to anyone who hasn’t been following the ins and outs of this drama. The senators who have been the most demanding of Ford won’t be questioning her, while the Democrats will be speaking to her directly, asking questions. I can’t help but feel it is going to make the Republican’s look chicken shit.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 27 2018 14:11 GMT
#14857
It's worth noting that Mitchell normally is on the side of the accuser and cross examines accused. This is a change for her and I wonder if it will show in her questions. Further, multiple Dems on this committee are ex-prosecutors themselves. I imagine they will go hard on Kavanaugh when the time comes, if only for political points.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2018 14:20 GMT
#14858
Grassley opens up by saying he was a safe and civil hearing for Ford and Kavanaugh, then goes directly into defending Kavanaugh and bashing the Democrats. I think Grassley has a basic misunderstanding of civility.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 14:29:45
September 27 2018 14:21 GMT
#14859
On September 27 2018 22:30 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 22:25 GoTuNk! wrote:
On September 27 2018 22:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On September 27 2018 22:08 GoTuNk! wrote:
The plot thickens. Two men lol.

Two men say they, not Brett Kavanaugh, had alleged sexual encounter with Christine Ford

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/26/brett-kavanaugh-two-men-say-they-had-disputed-sexual-encounter-christine-ford/1439569002/

Took them long enough to find someone/some persons to take the fall and throw the doubt of Ford into the wind.


But I tought all vicitims should be believed! What do they have to gain?

Why ask for evidence when we have their testimonies.

They are not the victim of a crime. They claim to have committed one and are turning themselves in(?), but the public doesn’t get to know their names. The victims in this case that are being taken seriously used their full names and released them to the public. We should hold these two potential criminals to the same standard.


It's very interesting that they're straight up claiming they attempted rape. Makes me wonder if this is being misreported.

I mean, they could have simply claimed that they were indeed involved with Ford that night but that her recollection was faulty and that it wasn't attempted rape. Wouldn't this have the same effect?
Bora Pain minha porra!
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-27 14:38:20
September 27 2018 14:38 GMT
#14860
LOL @ Grassley saying they will consider the other 2 accusations at another time. It's not like the vote is planned for tomorrow or anything.
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