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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1890 Posts
2 hours ago
#107281
On November 22 2025 18:51 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
MTG is quitting because she and Trump are no longer buddies:
Show nested quote +
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, a loyal supporter-turned-critic of President Donald Trump who faced his political retribution if she sought reelection, said Friday she is resigning from Congress in January.

Greene, in a more than 10-minute video posted online, explained her decision and said she didn’t want her congressional district “to have to endure a hurtful and hateful primary against me by the president we all fought for,” she said.

Greene’s resignation followed a public falling-out with Trump in recent months, as the congresswoman criticized him for his stance on files related to Jeffrey Epstein, along with foreign policy and health care.

Trump branded her a “traitor” and “wacky” and said he would endorse a challenger against her when she ran for reelection next year.

She said her last day would be Jan. 5, 2026.
https://apnews.com/article/marjorie-taylor-green-congress-resigns-trump-maga-5f42d4893343babc8e87da1491a0de2b

Over the past few weeks, she'd arbitrarily decided to start criticizing Trump, which was bizarre because he hadn't changed and she was basically riding him and worshipping him for years.


It's deeply funny that a true believer of a cabal of elite pedophiles ruling the world managed to become a Congressperson and then promptly quit after finding out the cabal was actually being run by her party all along
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23489 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-22 17:41:13
1 hour ago
#107282
On November 22 2025 23:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2025 19:20 mindjames wrote:
On November 22 2025 12:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i'm glad to see Trump has changed his mind and decided Mamdani has the potential to do a good job for NYC. I don't think the free buses and five grocery stores will change much though.

1 in 10 Trump voters also voted for Mamdani.

Video is here

I'm really tempted to just go "see? all those populists are the same raaahrgh" but I think the real story here is how much of a naive moron Trump is.

The president of the United States is willing to instantly flip on who he saw as his ideological nemesis because the guy spent 20 minutes saying nice things to him in private.

Guy seemed straight up in love. Just makes you realize how fucked is anyone who depends on Trump's negotiation skills.

Yeah seriously. Proud racist silver-spooned "tough guy" Trump suddenly being deferential to an anti-capitalist non-white foreigner, of all people. Bizarre. Trump even knows he's a fascist lol...
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There was one moment in particular when Zohran Mamdani seemed like he might have bit off a little more than he could chew by making his lonely pilgrimage down to the lion’s den that is President Trump’s blinged-out Oval Office.

The 34-year-old mayor-elect of New York was pressed by a reporter if he thought his host, who was sitting about four inches away, was really “a fascist.”

How terribly awkward.

But before Mr. Mamdani could even get out one of his slick and diplomatic answers, the president jumped in to throw him a lifeline.

“That’s OK, you could just say, ‘Yes,’” Mr. Trump said, looking highly amused by the whole thing. He waved his hand, as if being called the worst term in the political dictionary was no big deal.

“OK, all right,” Mr. Mamdani said with a smile.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/21/us/politics/trump-mamdani-scene.html

Felt very much like if WWE had a "communist" and a "fascist".

"Once mortal enemies... Now they're teaming up in a battle royale against...all those wealthy people that made fun of Trump at NYC cocktail parties, next on Monday Night Raw!."
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11375 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-22 17:07:53
1 hour ago
#107283
I don't think he got Canada to spend more on the military.
1) During the same time as we were upping our military, we got to include a bunch of new things like our Coast Guard to be counted as military spending... and our Coast Guard is nothing like the auxiliary fleet that America has. Our conservation officers carry handguns, but I don't know how often the Coast Guard does, if any.

In other words, a bunch of our increased military spending is just Carney moving some spreadsheet numbers around.

2) And then every one in NATO is spending more on military due to the war in Ukraine, no thanks to capitulation Trump.

On point #3, you cannot count a possible future event aka something that hasn't happened in the win column, lol. No more than you can can count Trump's successful negotiation of peace between Ukraine and Russia as a win just yet. Day one peace didn't arrive and we're still waiting as his admin gins up increasingly Russian-coded capitulation plans. At the rate we're going, Canada will have signed ten deals with other countries and Trump is exiting his second term and pushing for three by the time anything happens.

And I don't think Trump had much to do with Canada dropping retaliatory tariffs. Tariffs are a self-inflicted wound. Carney did them as Canada was looking for blood, but really the boycotts by product and vacationing were the few things we could do to impact America, if marginally and rerouting trade to other countries while Trump's 90 deals and 90 days team runs around making zero in a year.

The long term shift of Canada looking to other trade partners is the true impact of Trump's 'negotiations'.
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mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel413 Posts
1 hour ago
#107284
^
Plus, why the hell are we counting "getting Canada to remove its retaliatory tariff" (i.e. "fixing the problem I created") in his favor?
Ryzel
Profile Joined December 2012
United States538 Posts
50 minutes ago
#107285
On November 22 2025 19:20 mindjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2025 12:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i'm glad to see Trump has changed his mind and decided Mamdani has the potential to do a good job for NYC. I don't think the free buses and five grocery stores will change much though.

1 in 10 Trump voters also voted for Mamdani.

Video is here

I'm really tempted to just go "see? all those populists are the same raaahrgh" but I think the real story here is how much of a naive moron Trump is.

The president of the United States is willing to instantly flip on who he saw as his ideological nemesis because the guy spent 20 minutes saying nice things to him in private.

Guy seemed straight up in love. Just makes you realize how fucked is anyone who depends on Trump's negotiation skills.


Not a fan of Mamdani, I take it?
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5771 Posts
31 minutes ago
#107286
On November 22 2025 23:51 Gorsameth wrote:
Mamdani said some nice things to Trump in private and Trump, as he does every time that happens, just rolls over.

Trump isn't a master negotiator, he just loves anyone who is willing to stroke his ego a little.

What issue did he roll over on? If this is the game we're playing, how did Mamdani not roll over by meeting someone he called a despot?
On November 22 2025 19:20 mindjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2025 12:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i'm glad to see Trump has changed his mind and decided Mamdani has the potential to do a good job for NYC. I don't think the free buses and five grocery stores will change much though.

1 in 10 Trump voters also voted for Mamdani.

Video is here

I'm really tempted to just go "see? all those populists are the same raaahrgh" but I think the real story here is how much of a naive moron Trump is.

The president of the United States is willing to instantly flip on who he saw as his ideological nemesis because the guy spent 20 minutes saying nice things to him in private.

Guy seemed straight up in love. Just makes you realize how fucked is anyone who depends on Trump's negotiation skills.

I actually think it's much more normal for after an election people on opposite sides to just shut up and meet, and I prefer it to the expected behavior of Trump siccing any number of federal agencies on NYC or Mamdani personally. Meeting and talking about common goals is exactly what everyone should want from such figures. Calling Mamdani Trump's nemesis is overboard at this point and there is nothing being negotiated, not to mention there's no leverage held by a mayor against POTUS anyway. How does the most bland and innocuous possible meeting imaginable still get this reaction.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
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