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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
July 24 2025 20:13 GMT
#102481
Yeah, its a pretty right wing brand of comedy, the creators are libertarian weirdos. It would basically be bullying if they were punching down. As billionaires they have found one of the few targets they actually can punch up at.

They dont need to use their imagination with regards to how their target feels though, their target makes their anger extremely public.

The streaming rights were also purchased today or yesterday for 1.5 billion dollars by the company that settled in a lawsuit with the current administration who they appear to be kowtowing to at this point, so the Pissing Trump Off is also definitely being done with that in mind.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-24 20:34:31
July 24 2025 20:32 GMT
#102482
On July 25 2025 05:00 KwarK wrote:
It feels an awful lot like how right wing comedy boils down saying "bacon" and imagining a purple haired vegan who is triggered.

Imagining how triggered a straw adversary might be something and then throwing yourself a parade to celebrate is not effective.




South park is not right wing comedy. I know they were with the whole log cabin republican thing years ago but i dont see how they can be conflated with being right wing....

Have you watched them over the years or seen the book of mormon?
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12019 Posts
July 24 2025 20:35 GMT
#102483
On July 25 2025 05:32 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2025 05:00 KwarK wrote:
It feels an awful lot like how right wing comedy boils down saying "bacon" and imagining a purple haired vegan who is triggered.

Imagining how triggered a straw adversary might be something and then throwing yourself a parade to celebrate is not effective.




South park is not right wing comedy. I know they were with the whole log cabin republican thing but i dont see how they can be conflated with being right wing....

Have you watched them over the years or seen the book of mormon?


I don't think KwarK said that South Park is rightwing comedy. He was making a comparison between South Park and rightwing comedy, which doesn't imply that they are the same, just that they are similar in that one regard.

Kind of like how if i say that a candle is similar to a radiator in that it heats stuff, i don't say that i heat my home using candles.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46498 Posts
July 24 2025 20:40 GMT
#102484
On July 25 2025 05:32 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2025 05:00 KwarK wrote:
It feels an awful lot like how right wing comedy boils down saying "bacon" and imagining a purple haired vegan who is triggered.

Imagining how triggered a straw adversary might be something and then throwing yourself a parade to celebrate is not effective.




South park is not right wing comedy. I know they were with the whole log cabin republican thing years ago but i dont see how they can be conflated with being right wing....

Have you watched them over the years or seen the book of mormon?


Great satirical play/musical.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
July 24 2025 21:00 GMT
#102485
South Park is quintessential 'Murica.

100% Free Speech, really up to the edge where it hurts and maybe in some cases beyond, while calling out hypocrisy where they see it. and all that for shits and giggles an in service of a very silly show. so that silly people living in a very silly world can have a laugh.

I am not sure you can strictly call it left or right. the targets and topics they tackle have always been controversial and the goal just pushing the envelope. and they are more often than not in the habit of making very powerful enemies.

organized religions? horrible "organized religions" a.k.a Scientology - they demystified it for a broad audience by explaining the "teachings" so accurately up to the point where they could not be sued - while simultaneously throwing shade at prime Tom Cruise and for added bonus Travolta lol.

and Scientology in their prime sued everyone and was feared and a shadowy force to be reckoned with, especially in Hollywood.

to this day I fondly remember the Book of Mormon episode, a classic masterpiece.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44356 Posts
July 24 2025 21:11 GMT
#102486
I wasn't talking about political ideology, I was using right wing comedy as an example of the really shitty comedy where there's not actually a punch line, you just declare that someone is triggered making you the winner.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27462 Posts
July 24 2025 21:16 GMT
#102487
On July 25 2025 06:00 Doublemint wrote:
South Park is quintessential 'Murica.

100% Free Speech, really up to the edge where it hurts and maybe in some cases beyond, while calling out hypocrisy where they see it. and all that for shits and giggles an in service of a very silly show. so that silly people living in a very silly world can have a laugh.

I am not sure you can strictly call it left or right. the targets and topics they tackle have always been controversial and the goal just pushing the envelope. and they are more often than not in the habit of making very powerful enemies.

organized religions? horrible "organized religions" a.k.a Scientology - they demystified it for a broad audience by explaining the "teachings" so accurately up to the point where they could not be sued - while simultaneously throwing shade at prime Tom Cruise and for added bonus Travolta lol.

and Scientology in their prime sued everyone and was feared and a shadowy force to be reckoned with, especially in Hollywood.

to this day I fondly remember the Book of Mormon episode, a classic masterpiece.

The constant ‘this is what Scientologists actually believe’ popping up when you’ve just heard some of the most ridiculous shit you’ve ever heard was great.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-24 22:28:42
July 24 2025 22:19 GMT
#102488
I can see how South Park is not for everyone, and in the course of making the show for like 30 years whole episodes and jokes fall flat. all part of the game, you cannot please everyone.

which also should be prime 'Murica - generally speaking here. this whole shtick of canceling the other side because feelings have been hurt... fuck off. vent a bit or a bit more and get over it.

Freedom is not free and being offended is part of the whole deal in a liberal society where many viewpoints make the whole... under the (classical) liberal umbrella - which is huge for a reason. but not without limit.

you do something like this show in actual authoritarian countries you get a one way ticket to the gulag or they throw you under the jail.

critical what comes out of the White House and the wannabe dictator in the future, as we are all more or less painfully learning that cowing voices in the West can't be that obvious. it has to be sneaky and insidious.

we are still at the stage where the ground is being tested before they pave the way to our very own Terminator/RoboCop future hell.

they already addressed it of course

Trump Seething Over ‘South Park’ Mockery On Eve Of Skydance-Paramount Deal Closure; White House Lashes Out At “Desperate” Season 27 Premiere

EXCLUSIVE: The White House went on the offensive Thursday morning as an irate Donald Trump fumes over last night’s South Park Season 27 premiere that depicted him as a Satan-canoodling and less than well-endowed pompous bully, to put it mildly.

“The President is seething over the childish attack by South Park,” an administration source tells Deadline this morning. However, as annoyed as POTUS is over Trey Parker and Matt Stone‘s cartoon depiction of him as a shamelessly unclothed Emperor and a mocking, AI-generated PSA during the episode titled “Sermon on the ‘Mount” that depicted the MAGA chief naked in the desert, the White House was not blindsided by the satire.


Looking up the food chain of events, Skydance was warned of the episode’s content earlier it seems. With FCC approval of Skydance’s drawn-out merger with Paramount imminent, the administration was also given a heads up over the what was going to be in the South Park premiere, I’m told.

Reps for the David Ellison-led Skydance did not respond to request for comment on the episode. Contacted by Deadline, Paramount had “no comment” on the matter.

On the other hand, with nothing yet from Trump himself on social media, the White House was more than eager to go on the record and on the counterattack.

“The Left’s hypocrisy truly has no end – for years they have come after South Park for what they labeled as ‘offense’ content, but suddenly they are praising the show,” White House Assistant Press Secretary Taylor Rogers told Deadline this morning.

“Just like the creators of South Park, the Left has no authentic or original content, which is why their popularity continues to hit record lows,” Rogers added, in direct contrast to the $1.5 billion agreement Paramount and the South Park duo just inked this week. “This show hasn’t been relevant for over 20 years and is hanging on by a thread with uninspired ideas in a desperate attempt for attention. President Trump has delivered on more promises in just six months than any other president in our country’s history – and no fourth-rate show can derail President Trump’s hot streak.”


Of note, Rogers did not mention the Skydance-Paramount merger in the remarks. The $8 billion merger is currently up for review by the FCC.

The new South Park episode certainly mentions the deal, in addition to toggling between Stephen Colbert’s recent late-night axing, efforts to kneecap diversity programs, and Trump’s penchant for suing critical media outlets (like CBS, who settled with POTUS for $16 million earlier this month over what was called a “meritless” 60 Minutes suit). A cowering 60 Minutes itself, Jesus in the school system, going to war with Canada (an old South Park trope) censorship and corporate kowtowing were also in the mix.

Even the successful cutting of public broadcasting’s funding got a cameo. “Who the hell does the president think he is?” South Park’s whining Cartman exclaims in the premiere about the blows against NPR. “The government can’t cancel a show. I mean, what show are they going to cancel next?”

Of course, with a deft reference to Saddam Hussein and 1999’s South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut movie in the cartoon affair between Trump and Satan, it was the “pro-Trump messaging” at the end that really took last night’s episode to a new level unmatched in the first six months of the heavy-handed former Celebrity Apprentice host’s return to power.

In a nod to Trump’s assertion that there was a PSA side deal in his settlement with CBS, the scene comes as the town of South Park settles a fictional multibillion-dollar suit from POTUS for $3.5 million.

“Trump. His penis is teeny-tiny, but his love for us is large,” the fake PSA narrator concludes, leaving nothing to the imagination. The South Park team has put up a HeTrumpUs site to house the self-described “synthetic media.”

You can see what that messaging looked like here, but be warned, it is graphic and very NSFW:

Just days after signing a hard-fought and lucrative five-year-deal with Paramount, South Park creators Parker and Stone are scheduled to appear at San Diego Comic-Con on Thursday. Can you guess what they might discuss?

glorious.

getting this sort of reaction shows just how much it irked them, and how much they have to please the "Don".

I am very much looking forward to the Comic-Con interviews - and the impending drama after "the show".

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-24 23:06:15
July 24 2025 23:04 GMT
#102489
On July 25 2025 05:00 KwarK wrote:
It feels an awful lot like how right wing comedy boils down saying "bacon" and imagining a purple haired vegan who is triggered.

Imagining how triggered a straw adversary might be by something and then throwing yourself a parade to celebrate is not effective.

With Trump you do not need to imagine you just wait for him to be the thin skinned whiney baby and cry about it on Twitter.

He is apparently going after the view now as well, lol. I wonder when his fans are going to catch on to the fact that he is not against cancel culture he embraces it. He wants a media as free as north Korea's. Big merger goes through right after Colbert firing, what a coincidence.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14211 Posts
July 25 2025 01:58 GMT
#102490
You've got to admire the statement made of delivering that episode the day after they sign a 1.5 billion dollar deal.

They had that already done before the merger was approved while colbert was having his weekend of hell.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
July 25 2025 06:31 GMT
#102491
On July 25 2025 08:04 Billyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2025 05:00 KwarK wrote:
It feels an awful lot like how right wing comedy boils down saying "bacon" and imagining a purple haired vegan who is triggered.

Imagining how triggered a straw adversary might be by something and then throwing yourself a parade to celebrate is not effective.

With Trump you do not need to imagine you just wait for him to be the thin skinned whiney baby and cry about it on Twitter.

He is apparently going after the view now as well, lol. I wonder when his fans are going to catch on to the fact that he is not against cancel culture he embraces it. He wants a media as free as north Korea's. Big merger goes through right after Colbert firing, what a coincidence.

"Okay, now see this? This is a four-way road, okay? And dead in the centre is a crisp, new, hundred dollar bill. Now at the end of each of the streets, are four people, okay? You following? Up here, we got a purple-haired vegan who's trigged by bacon. Okay? Now down here, we have a woman-hating, angry-as-fuck, agenda-of-rage, Donald Trump. To this side, we got Santa Claus, right? And over to this side, the Easter Bunny. Which one's going to get to the hundred dollar bill first?"

"Donald Trump?"

"Good. Why?... BECAUSE THESE OTHER THREE ARE FIGMENTS OF YOUR FUCKING IMAGINATION!".

Never thought I'd get to quote Chasing Amy here, but I enjoyed the opportunity!
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18453 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 07:19:29
July 25 2025 07:00 GMT
#102492
On July 25 2025 05:00 KwarK wrote:
It feels an awful lot like how right wing comedy boils down saying "bacon" and imagining a purple haired vegan who is triggered.

Imagining how triggered a straw adversary might be by something and then throwing yourself a parade to celebrate is not effective.

It feels like you didn't get the point of that Southpark episode. It isn't trying to poke fun of Trump. They are trying to poke fun at Paramount. They are just outright insulting Trump, yelling "come at me, bro" as loud as they think they can get away with. The jab isn't in the episode, the jab is in the context. Taken as an individual episode, it is singularly unfunny. It's like most Charlie Hebdo cartoons: insulting for the shock of being insulting, and confusing that with funny. But within the context of Paramount settling with Trump for the 60 minutes thing, and cancelling the Late Show, both of which were at best, mildly off-putting to Trump, it is hilarious to then take this kind of a dig at Trump.

E: so yeah, it's a bit like yelling bacon. But instead of laughing, the joke is that the purple-faced vegan has to show up. If Trump doesn't blow up, the joke falls flat. But when an irate Trump sues Paramount again, and we all know he will, it works.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 07:37:56
July 25 2025 07:29 GMT
#102493
the merger actively fucked with the release schedule of South Park. the reverse cancel culture and the Late Show/Colbert being axed is just another facet for them to stir up the pot.

hilarious on another level is that as the merger is approved by the FCC they come out full swing.

//edit:

this made my early morning. it is a very special interaction between "too late" Powell and "stable genius" Donnie, and state TV Fox somehow mislabeling who's confused.
+ Show Spoiler +
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1200 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 09:25:43
July 25 2025 07:43 GMT
#102494
The conservative american voter/society often thinks that freedom means "getting what I want whenever I want it".
And Trump is the absolute symbol for that.

I hope he is pestered with the SouthPark Episode making fun of his toddler genitals that only look big on Epstein Island.
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10961 Posts
July 25 2025 07:47 GMT
#102495
Southpark has some very high highs and heaps upon heaps of "meh".
Personally i'm just not that big into the easy "shock"-humour they often do. I feel like you can easily see which episodes/stories they actually put some tought in and which were just put together so they can air something whiteout doing much work.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 09:41:16
July 25 2025 09:34 GMT
#102496
I don't know how many of you actually watched the episode, or how many of you are regular South Park viewers, but the episode, in my opinion was more then just insult humor and tiny dick jokes.

Like always, South Park goes over the "zeitgeist" topics and vibes in the USA, without watching it again, things this one joked about and with that commented on:

- "the woke" being dead
- canceling of NPR pisses Cartman off because "feminists and lesbians complaining" was his favorite morning routine
- "Donald Trump canceled my show, fuck him he can't do that"
- PC principal going from culture warrior woke dude to "Power in Christ" principal
- Satan asking Trump about the Epstein list
- Jesus being back in schools, but it turns out it's because Trump is threatening to sue him
- Trump suing everyone, threatening Canada
- 60 minutes being scarred shittless to say anything bad about Trump, so he doesn't sue them
- Trump being in bed with Satan, being animated like Saddam Hussein was 20 years ago, aka, he's a dictator
- Trump voters being disillusioned because "they didn't vote for this"
- South Park residents start to talk shit about Trump, he thretens to sue them, they settle and make a PSA
- PSA is a clear parody of the "He Gets Us" Christian propaganda videos
- The PSA being AI slop

So, that seems like a good mix of trying to comment on what's happening (what SP has been doing for 30 years) and saying fuck you to both Trump and their parent company.

Writing posts how nothing about this is funny and there are specific things to joke about Trump that has been done by liberal commentators, late night shows and comedians for a decade with no effects really missises the point super hard.

So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 09:58:09
July 25 2025 09:53 GMT
#102497
Cartman having an existential crisis got me good.

they know what they are doing, and the god damn WH addressing it directly with "hasn't been relevant for 20 years"... while everyone is talking about it is just chef's kiss. and they very recently signed a deal for 1.5bn dollars.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1200 Posts
July 25 2025 09:56 GMT
#102498
I think Southpark went into a "WTF" phase 10 years ago when Trump became president, and southpark no longer was a krass parody of a reality pretending to be sane, but dropped the mask and became Insanity.
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3277 Posts
July 25 2025 12:45 GMT
#102499
Additional evidence comes out to verify that Epstein photo that Trump insisted was fake.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1200 Posts
July 25 2025 13:03 GMT
#102500
Trump gets very thin skinned in 2018 on single guy in the crowd holding up the Epstein photo:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oEnOjEuqF5o
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
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