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they are really working overtime on trying to contain the Epstein meltdown.
partial immunity while they "negotiate", maybe even a pardon for Ghislaine? for "services rendered" to a "grateful nation" in catching the bad guys and nothing but the really bad guys? and Hillary of course.
if only they worked a fraction as hard to actually MAGA and all that.
More than 300 hospitals across the US are at risk of closure under deep healthcare cuts in President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill.
Some 338 facilities in rural areas could be forced to close, convert, or slash services, according to the Cecil G. Sheps Center for Health Services Research.
Democratic senators highlighted the findings in a letter to the President last month, urging him to reconsider the legislation.
Congress, however, passed the bill earlier this month despite Republican rebels fighting back against its steep cuts to Medicaid among other issues.
The act slashes over $1 trillion in healthcare spending over the next 10 years, mostly from Medicaid, which provides health coverage for millions of low-income Americans.
'A majority of adults living in rural areas are concerned that these health care cuts will "negatively impact hospitals, nursing homes, and other health care providers in [their] community,"' the senators' letter read.
'They are right to be worried, as these cuts will have devastating consequences for health outcomes and costs, jobs, and the economic success of rural communities.'
The data found that 46 states had at least one rural hospital at risk, with Kentucky and Louisiana seeing the highest numbers, at 35 and 33, respectively.
Something that is not getting enough attention (not just here but in the media as well), the damage RFK jr is doing to the public health sector. The straight up lies he is telling about research, or just flat out making things up is crazy. The vaccine things is not even going to show for years or decades but he is a guy that should be impeached. He lied in his confirmation hearing that he was going to follow the research and he is doing the opposite.
On July 26 2025 20:27 Doublemint wrote: they are really working overtime on trying to contain the Epstein meltdown.
partial immunity while they "negotiate", maybe even a pardon for Ghislaine? for "services rendered" to a "grateful nation" in catching the bad guys and nothing but the really bad guys? and Hillary of course.
if only they worked a fraction as hard to actually MAGA and all that.
More than 300 hospitals across the US are at risk of closure under deep healthcare cuts in President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill.
Some 338 facilities in rural areas could be forced to close, convert, or slash services, according to the Cecil G. Sheps Center for Health Services Research.
Democratic senators highlighted the findings in a letter to the President last month, urging him to reconsider the legislation.
Congress, however, passed the bill earlier this month despite Republican rebels fighting back against its steep cuts to Medicaid among other issues.
The act slashes over $1 trillion in healthcare spending over the next 10 years, mostly from Medicaid, which provides health coverage for millions of low-income Americans.
'A majority of adults living in rural areas are concerned that these health care cuts will "negatively impact hospitals, nursing homes, and other health care providers in [their] community,"' the senators' letter read.
'They are right to be worried, as these cuts will have devastating consequences for health outcomes and costs, jobs, and the economic success of rural communities.'
The data found that 46 states had at least one rural hospital at risk, with Kentucky and Louisiana seeing the highest numbers, at 35 and 33, respectively.
I do not think that will fix the problem with the MAGA base. I've noticed the people I have on my feed who used to just post whatever the latest meme was and pwn the libs with it are actually pushing back. Saying things like, I'd love Obama to be in jail but they are just trying to distract us. And GOP (Guardians of Pedophiles) are as bad as the Dems, maybe worse. Then the comments are filled with probably not worse, but very close.
It has never been anything but blind trust with these people, even about space lasers, vaccine killing 1/4 of people and other super dumb shit. I do not know that they can pull them back with anything other than releasing everything they promised (which is hard when lots of it does not exist).
On July 26 2025 20:27 Doublemint wrote: they are really working overtime on trying to contain the Epstein meltdown.
partial immunity while they "negotiate", maybe even a pardon for Ghislaine? for "services rendered" to a "grateful nation" in catching the bad guys and nothing but the really bad guys? and Hillary of course.
if only they worked a fraction as hard to actually MAGA and all that.
More than 300 hospitals across the US are at risk of closure under deep healthcare cuts in President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill.
Some 338 facilities in rural areas could be forced to close, convert, or slash services, according to the Cecil G. Sheps Center for Health Services Research.
Democratic senators highlighted the findings in a letter to the President last month, urging him to reconsider the legislation.
Congress, however, passed the bill earlier this month despite Republican rebels fighting back against its steep cuts to Medicaid among other issues.
The act slashes over $1 trillion in healthcare spending over the next 10 years, mostly from Medicaid, which provides health coverage for millions of low-income Americans.
'A majority of adults living in rural areas are concerned that these health care cuts will "negatively impact hospitals, nursing homes, and other health care providers in [their] community,"' the senators' letter read.
'They are right to be worried, as these cuts will have devastating consequences for health outcomes and costs, jobs, and the economic success of rural communities.'
The data found that 46 states had at least one rural hospital at risk, with Kentucky and Louisiana seeing the highest numbers, at 35 and 33, respectively.
I do not think that will fix the problem with the MAGA base. I've noticed the people I have on my feed who used to just post whatever the latest meme was and pwn the libs with it are actually pushing back. Saying things like, I'd love Obama to be in jail but they are just trying to distract us. And GOP (Guardians of Pedophiles) are as bad as the Dems, maybe worse. Then the comments are filled with probably not worse, but very close.
It has never been anything but blind trust with these people, even about space lasers, vaccine killing 1/4 of people and other super dumb shit. I do not know that they can pull them back with anything other than releasing everything they promised (which is hard when lots of it does not exist).
Welp, Trump and Lutnik didn't back down this time...
this increase takes it to the point that it is almost an economic embargo.
These softwood lumber disputes have been going on prior to the very first FTA in 1988. This is nothing special to the Trump regime. The clown in this video claiming it started in 2017 is out of it.
"we have lots of trees... we don't need their lumber" , Donald Trump 2024.
On July 26 2025 20:27 Doublemint wrote: they are really working overtime on trying to contain the Epstein meltdown.
partial immunity while they "negotiate", maybe even a pardon for Ghislaine? for "services rendered" to a "grateful nation" in catching the bad guys and nothing but the really bad guys? and Hillary of course.
if only they worked a fraction as hard to actually MAGA and all that.
More than 300 hospitals across the US are at risk of closure under deep healthcare cuts in President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill.
Some 338 facilities in rural areas could be forced to close, convert, or slash services, according to the Cecil G. Sheps Center for Health Services Research.
Democratic senators highlighted the findings in a letter to the President last month, urging him to reconsider the legislation.
Congress, however, passed the bill earlier this month despite Republican rebels fighting back against its steep cuts to Medicaid among other issues.
The act slashes over $1 trillion in healthcare spending over the next 10 years, mostly from Medicaid, which provides health coverage for millions of low-income Americans.
'A majority of adults living in rural areas are concerned that these health care cuts will "negatively impact hospitals, nursing homes, and other health care providers in [their] community,"' the senators' letter read.
'They are right to be worried, as these cuts will have devastating consequences for health outcomes and costs, jobs, and the economic success of rural communities.'
The data found that 46 states had at least one rural hospital at risk, with Kentucky and Louisiana seeing the highest numbers, at 35 and 33, respectively.
I do not think that will fix the problem with the MAGA base. I've noticed the people I have on my feed who used to just post whatever the latest meme was and pwn the libs with it are actually pushing back. Saying things like, I'd love Obama to be in jail but they are just trying to distract us. And GOP (Guardians of Pedophiles) are as bad as the Dems, maybe worse. Then the comments are filled with probably not worse, but very close.
It has never been anything but blind trust with these people, even about space lasers, vaccine killing 1/4 of people and other super dumb shit. I do not know that they can pull them back with anything other than releasing everything they promised (which is hard when lots of it does not exist).
one has to wonder, if in addition to this whole Trump cult behavior there is also a bit of sunk cost fallacy at play. I mean the amount of merchandise they would have to get rid off.
and would not be able to sell anymore when ditching the grifter in chief.
Not to bump the WNBA discussion but I’m currently on holiday in Chicago and I dropped in on a WNBA game against Indiana. I was looking at tickets a month ago and they were $100+ even for nosebleed seats. It was at the United Center where the Bulls play and it was a packed house despite the fact that the best players from each team were out with injuries. The same game 5 years ago probably would have struggled to fill a high school gymnasium by giving away their tickets for free. Google says the top salary for a player is $250k which is less than the NBA by a factor of 100+. It’s obvious the league has exploded in popularity thanks largely to Caitlin Clark and it seems fair for the players to want to revisit their compensation. I hope they get the most they can get although I’m not really any more invested than I would be for any other union doing their contract negotiations.
Trade deal with EU made me wonder: when do we start to have a decent comparison regarding tariff revenue? I’m very curious to see how the whole situation shakes out. I won’t pretend I’m a fan of Trump, but I warmly welcome novel data. I hope this new dynamic ends up wildly successful and wonderful. But I have no idea how/when we will have a good picture of how this works
On July 28 2025 09:27 Mohdoo wrote: Trade deal with EU made me wonder: when do we start to have a decent comparison regarding tariff revenue? I’m very curious to see how the whole situation shakes out. I won’t pretend I’m a fan of Trump, but I warmly welcome novel data. I hope this new dynamic ends up wildly successful and wonderful. But I have no idea how/when we will have a good picture of how this works
What are you asking for exactly? Increased taxes on things americans buy will make things more expensive. You're not going to see any real effect on the economics changing for years, so this is just a flat tax increase on Americans. Raiseing taxes will increase revenue, although raiseing it on the poor is just dumb, they already spend all their money, you want to get the money that isn't being spent so you can flow it through the economy faster.
As with his last presidency, people are in turmoil, and then just accept that you have to sit out and waste 4 years of your life, the planet as a whole and the known universe.. until Trump is gone and you actually can proceed with everything.
I honestly think Van der Leyen as well as all the "tough talk" European "leaders" are feckless, spineless bootlickers who make me embarrassed for being duped into the "EU is there so we can collectively negotiate with larger powers" narrative that folded as soon as a moron with a madman theory of negotiations entered the chat.
All this talk and the result is a big, fat nothing. I mean, someone with even a semblance of a sense of shame would come to Trump and ask him for any concession, anything, something to present the public so they can not come back to the EU public as absolute losers, and they couldn't even get that.
We went from:
Before Trump's arrival disrupted transatlantic commerce, EU-made products were subject to an average tariff rate of 4.8% upon entering US territory. Sunday's deal presumably entails an additional 10% to reach the 15% mark.
So 10 % blanket tariff increase, what did we get in return, you ask:
Asked about what concessions, if any, the US had made in the talks, the Commission chief replied with a general remark about shared prosperity.
"The starting point was an imbalance, a surplus (of goods) on our side and a deficit on the US side. We wanted to rebalance the trade relation, and we wanted to do it in a way that trade goes on between the two of us across the Atlantic," she said.
Well, we got Ursula repeating Trump's absolute garbage lies and nonsense, figures that completely exclude financial and digital services as well as military equipment.
Absolutely pathetic and shameful, it's economics and it's low impact so the chances that an average EU citizen gives a fuck enough to do something are basically none, especially since the 15 % will hurt companies and American customers more then us, but it does make me feel shame that these spineless bureaucrats are rolling over and letting USA dictate everything.
If I'm reading that right, all Trump did was decide what tax rate to apply to U.S. citizens on imported goods (from EU), with no action needed from the EU. It's kind of funny Trump had to "negotiate" that.
On July 28 2025 19:12 micronesia wrote: If I'm reading that right, all Trump did was decide what tax rate to apply to U.S. citizens on imported goods (from EU), with no action needed from the EU. It's kind of funny Trump had to "negotiate" that.
No, he got the EU to not do the same thing. He can raise tariffs as much as he wants of course but we decided to take it.
I honestly think this is mostly about Ukraine. The EU as a whole is weak due to needing the US in that war and since Trump doesn't give a fuck about Ukraine he can use it to push trade. If that war ends and things stabilize (and we actually spend 3,5+1,5% of GDP on defense for a while) I fully expect a negotiation.
On July 28 2025 08:25 BlackJack wrote: Not to bump the WNBA discussion but I’m currently on holiday in Chicago and I dropped in on a WNBA game against Indiana. I was looking at tickets a month ago and they were $100+ even for nosebleed seats. It was at the United Center where the Bulls play and it was a packed house despite the fact that the best players from each team were out with injuries. The same game 5 years ago probably would have struggled to fill a high school gymnasium by giving away their tickets for free. Google says the top salary for a player is $250k which is less than the NBA by a factor of 100+. It’s obvious the league has exploded in popularity thanks largely to Caitlin Clark and it seems fair for the players to want to revisit their compensation. I hope they get the most they can get although I’m not really any more invested than I would be for any other union doing their contract negotiations.
If they had a street-smart and legal-smart union leader like Donald Fehr they would already be benefiting from the WNBA's massive revenue increase. I think the WNBAPA union leaders are morons compared to Fehr.
As far as the league losing money... who cares? Fehr argued this about losing money: “If there are club ownerships which, in their total economic picture, don’t mind losing some money — if that’s how they feel — then why should I care?” — likening such owners to people who operate fine‑art museums at a loss, not because of necessity but because they can absorb the losses "
I think Fehr specifically went into the weeds about some organization that lost 10s of millions owning and displaying the Mona Lisa. It was an ego project for some money donor.
I don't really blame the NBA owners. The union leaders are fucking up more and more with each passing day. They're a bunch of morons.
On July 28 2025 19:12 micronesia wrote: If I'm reading that right, all Trump did was decide what tax rate to apply to U.S. citizens on imported goods (from EU), with no action needed from the EU. It's kind of funny Trump had to "negotiate" that.
I mean, sure, we can all decide to look at it like that, but if we are being real these costs are going to be eaten not only by the customers, but also the importers and exporters, it's never going to be just on the US costumers.
Let's say that half of the 15 % flat rate tariff 5 % gets eaten by the US customer and 5 % the importer, the other 5 % is still a competitive disadvantage for EU based companies because they will need to eat it, while the US companies don't have to deal with any of that.
And for the privilege of not getting nuked by 30 % we also get Ursula to promise Trump things that are basically already happening so he looks better, or in the case of energy just make some wild numbers up for the same propose.
EVER SINCE President Donald Trump unveiled his Liberation Day tariffs in April, the world’s biggest trading relationship had been on the rocks. The European Union swung from trying to sweet-talk America into making a deal, to threatening retaliation. On July 27th dealmaking won out. At his golf course in Scotland the president and Ursula von der Leyen, the head of the European Commission, unveiled the outline of a preliminary trade agreement. The bloc has pulled off a tricky balancing act: making enough concessions to keep Mr Trump happy, while limiting the economic damage.
Many of the details are still to be hammered out, but the agreement appears to contain three main elements. The first is a 15% tariff on most European exports to America, including, importantly, cars. The second is a list of goods that will face zero tariffs, from aircraft and chipmaking equipment to some chemicals and raw materials. And the third is a promise by the EU to buy more American fuel and AI chips, and to invest $600bn in America.
The biggest concession is the bloc’s acceptance of a 15% tariff, which is more than nine times higher than the rate in place before Mr Trump returned to office. But the worst-case scenarios were so bad that Europe’s trade negotiators gave up on returning to anything close to those halcyon days. Over the past few months Mr Trump, convinced that the EU was ripping off his countrymen, had lobbed threats of duties ranging from 20% to 50%. And, as with a recent deal struck with Japan, European negotiators at least managed to lower the tariff rate on foreign-made cars, from 25% to 15%.
That will bring relief to the continent’s beleaguered carmakers. It also has the perverse consequence that Japanese and European carmakers sending vehicles to America may be whacked less than producers manufacturing cars in America, which must pay hefty duties on parts and steel. According to a preliminary calculation by the Kiel Institute, a think-tank, Germany’s industrial production would take a 0.15% hit in the short term. France and Italy would hardly be affected at all.
unmatched negotiators all around. Stellantis, Ford and others... the whole supply chain will think fondly of this mess and its architects.
the setting alone, golfing at his shitty resort while "inviting" Ursula there to bend the knee almost last minute in order for the world economy not to crap itself/the trade war to actually escalate.
EPT
