EPTIt'll be interesting to see who "moves to Canada". Artosis did!
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
It'll be interesting to see who "moves to Canada". Artosis did! | ||
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Mikau313
Netherlands230 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:12 L_Master wrote: How does anyone hate Trump this much? I can get someone that thinks he crass, or that he is an attention whore, or an asshole, or has a variety of character defects.... at the same time he also is unusually humble for someone of his net worth showing genuine interest in common men, authentic, and more than anything he's a great troll that knows how to entertain. Surely this is sarcasm? Jesus christ that might just be about as opposite the truth as one can get. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7182 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:12 L_Master wrote: How does anyone hate Trump this much? I can get someone that thinks he crass, or that he is an attention whore, or an asshole, or has a variety of character defects.... at the same time he also is unusually humble for someone of his net worth showing genuine interest in common men, authentic, and more than anything he's a great troll that knows how to entertain. You dont have to deepthroat him this hard, he already won. | ||
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Taelshin
Canada420 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:16 Mikau313 wrote: Surely this is sarcasm? Jesus christ that might just be about as opposite the truth as one can get. Grumpy On November 06 2024 17:16 Luolis wrote: You dont have to deepthroat him this hard, he already won. Oh nvm, it's a night for over the top shitposting. I'm good with that  | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28847 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:12 L_Master wrote: How does anyone hate Trump this much? I can get someone that thinks he crass, or that he is an attention whore, or an asshole, or has a variety of character defects.... at the same time he also is unusually humble for someone of his net worth showing genuine interest in common men, authentic, and more than anything he's a great troll that knows how to entertain. Surely you did not just describe Trump as humble? That you think his interest in the common men is genuine and that you find him authentic, sure, I can buy that, but humble? If Trump were to use that word to describe himself, it would be through stating that he is the most humble man to ever live and that this is another reason why he is the greatest. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9887 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:18 Taelshin wrote: So pumped right now Woooo-Weeee pals been a tough 4ish years but we did it. Another victory for old white men. Yay. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27106 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:12 L_Master wrote: How does anyone hate Trump this much? I can get someone that thinks he crass, or that he is an attention whore, or an asshole, or has a variety of character defects.... at the same time he also is unusually humble for someone of his net worth showing genuine interest in common men, authentic, and more than anything he's a great troll that knows how to entertain. How long you got? | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4179 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27106 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:24 Dante08 wrote: The most shocking thing is Trump is likely to win the popular vote which is CRAZY And by a wee bit too That was the surprise for me for sure. Either result I’d not have blinked an eye but the Dems losing the popular vote? | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:21 Liquid`Drone wrote: Surely you did not just describe Trump as humble? That you think his interest in the common men is genuine and that you find him authentic, sure, I can buy that, but humble? If Trump were to use that word to describe himself, it would be through stating that he is the most humble man to ever live and that this is another reason why he is the greatest. unusually humble for someone of his net worth I would not say Trump comes across as humble to me. He clearly thinks he's hot shit. And he clearly, desperately desires people to acknowledge his as being totally awesome from everything I've ever seen. It stops shy of true DSM narcissism where it's obligate he get that attention...but he's got about as high a narcissistic supply as I remember seeing. None of which feels humble. But it doesn't so much feel arrogant as it does needy and validation seeking to me. And when I say "of someone of his net worth", I mean that I think people like Elon, Vivek, Kirk, Obama, Kamala, etc. all comes across to me as sneering and looking down on the masses as beneath them. I do not get that impression from Trump. Trump reminds me more of instagirls posting thirst traps for attention. They know they are hot, they are desperate for attention to be admired and showered with compliments, but they don't present as thinking everyone else is far beneath them | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24088 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:27 WombaT wrote: And by a wee bit too That was the surprise for me for sure. Either result I’d not have blinked an eye but the Dems losing the popular vote? Definitely Jill Stein's fault | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16124 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:24 Dante08 wrote: The most shocking thing is Trump is likely to win the popular vote which is CRAZY It's honestly not that shocking. This is what the cynical side of me knew was going to happen. This election isn't so much an affirmation of Trump it's a rejection of the Democrats. Of their messaging, of their candidates and of their politics. | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4179 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:30 Vindicare605 wrote: It's honestly not that shocking. This is what the cynical side of me knew was going to happen. This election isn't so much an affirmation of Trump it's a rejection of the Democrats. Of their messaging, of their candidates and of their politics. Yeah I think so too, if Dems won the popular vote you could argue it’s some EC bullshit but losing the popular vote really shows people are sick of Dem bullshit policies that they would rather vote for someone as flawed as Trump. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:30 Vindicare605 wrote: It's honestly not that shocking. This is what the cynical side of me knew was going to happen. This election isn't so much an affirmation of Trump it's a rejection of the Democrats. Of their messaging, of their candidates and of their politics. 100%. Pretty much every person I knew isn't especially pro Trump. They are simply disgusted, angry, or afraid of the democrats DEI policies, the rapid shift in demographics, the monetary policy (admittedly R isn't a ton better here, but perception skews that way), and the general bureaucracy and onerous endless regulations that are added. Also very strong opposition to the moral posture that liberals always take. Almost impossible to overstate that. Everyone I know in person, unless ardent left, despises this. The ardent left folk almost always take these moral framings "you're a horrible racist", "you hate trans people", "you're a misogynist", "you don't care about women", etc. when you don't agree or do what they want. Put all that together with Harris as a candidate and.... you get tonight. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:30 Vindicare605 wrote: This election isn't so much an affirmation of Trump it's a rejection of the Democrats. Of their messaging, of their candidates and of their politics. Big Democrat run states like California and New York are not exactly thriving. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:38 Dante08 wrote: Yeah I think so too, if Dems won the popular vote you could argue it’s some EC bullshit but losing the popular vote really shows people are sick of Dem bullshit policies that they would rather vote for someone as flawed as Trump. I do share this perspective, but at least among my in person spheres, a BIG part of that is that this time people didn't feel they were voting for Trump. They were voting for the coalition of Tulsi + RFK + Vance + Vivek + Elon + Trump, seeing those other members as good voices surrounding and shaping the more insane points of Trump. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5600 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:41 L_Master wrote: 100%. Pretty much every person I knew isn't especially pro Trump. They are simply disgusted, angry, or afraid of the democrats DEI policies, the rapid shift in demographics, the monetary policy (admittedly R isn't a ton better here, but perception skews that way), and the general bureaucracy and onerous endless regulations that are added. Also very strong opposition to the moral posture that liberals always take. Almost impossible to overstate that. Everyone I know in person, unless ardent left, despises this. The ardent left folk almost always take these moral framings "you're a horrible racist", "you hate trans people", "you're a misogynist", "you don't care about women", etc. when you don't agree or do what they want. Put all that together with Harris as a candidate and.... you get tonight. And the incessant and absurd wolf crying! Stuff like Trump saying that he would use the national guard on violent protesters trying to prevent his inauguration turns into "Trump saying he will use the military on political opponents (just like Hitler did)". etc. And I'm even a person who is genuinely afraid of what I see as Trump's authoritarian tendencies. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16124 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:41 L_Master wrote: 100%. Pretty much every person I knew isn't especially pro Trump. They are simply disgusted, angry, or afraid of the democrats DEI policies, the rapid shift in demographics, the monetary policy (admittedly R isn't a ton better here, but perception skews that way), and the general bureaucracy and onerous endless regulations that are added. Also very strong opposition to the moral posture that liberals always take. Almost impossible to overstate that. Everyone I know in person, unless ardent left, despises this. The ardent left folk almost always take these moral framings "you're a horrible racist", "you hate trans people", "you're a misogynist", "you don't care about women", etc. when you don't agree or do what they want. Put all that together with Harris as a candidate and.... you get tonight. I've been saying it and I'll keep saying it. Democrats need to focus on fucking POLICY. Stop getting into these shit slinging contests with the Republicans about wedge issues. There's A REASON the Republicans want politics to be about that. They win those fights. | ||
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Ciaus237
South Africa288 Posts
On November 06 2024 17:24 Dante08 wrote: The most shocking thing is Trump is likely to win the popular vote which is CRAZY Nah, he is the perfect representative of the American people. The largest single block of them anyway. The American identity has metastasized into him: an openly racist and misogynistic dipshit with a 4th grade reading level who has no values outside of his own money (about which he lies) and power. Well done America, you've won democracy. You've found your mirror. To the rest of you who have, by now, realised just how many of these fuckers you share a country with, my condolences. Genuinely, it is terrifying from here, can't imagine what it is like there. | ||
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