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On November 06 2024 13:53 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2024 13:49 Luolis wrote:On November 06 2024 13:48 GreenHorizons wrote:On November 06 2024 13:45 KwarK wrote:On November 06 2024 13:38 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 06 2024 13:36 Amui wrote:On November 06 2024 13:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This is about as close to a landslide Trump could get, and a catastrophe for Democrats. Trump's outpacing most of his past performances, gaining heavily with minorities, and cutting notably into blue states that may even flip or be perilously close to going red.
Trump's going to likely have a trifecta and a SCOTUS going his way. This is the potential to utterly redefine and reshape America once more. Yep. My takeaway from what I saw in Flash's stream, rural America really turned out to make sure a minority female candidate would never become president. If Walz had been the main ticket, quite frankly I think Dem's take it. Harris got a similar turnout at best in urban areas compared to Biden, and lost by a buttload in rural areas. Walz probably gets a similar turnout to Harris in urban areas, and doesn't energize the red rural areas in the same way. If Dems want any shot in future elections, they need to run some eloquent charismatic middle-age+ white guy. Not someone who will automatically lose several % of the popular vote by default. Or... and here's an idea. Run someone who actually has to win an election to win the fucking nomination. The Democrats took the choice of candidate out of the hands of the voters and voters responded. Gee I wonder when else that happened, oh yea it also happened in 2016. Wonder how many times they'll need to be punished for doing that before they actually learn their lesson. + Show Spoiler +Hillary won the nomination hard in 2016, she was extremely well connected, qualified, and had an awful lot of support within the party. The problem is that Democrats sit around smelling their own farts. They circle jerk about this vision of an aspirational America built on opportunity, equality, a glorious melting pot. They're completely out of touch with just how awful the average American is. They need to get out there, speak to the average voter, and lower their fucking expectations. They need to talk more about the upsides of police brutality and how LGBT people have a mental illness if they want to win. They need to proclaim the virtues of traitor Confederate generals and when they suggest that we're shipping too many precision weapons to Israel it better fucking be the precision part they're objecting to. Kwark is being emotional right now, but this there is some Dem adviser screaming this at important people right now and those important people are seriously considering taking this sort of approach. Is he wrong though? USA seems to want this. I for one, am just glad to watch this bite the ass of all the morons who voted for Trump. It’s never sarisfying because no matter how fucking disastrous these things can potentially get, those said same people will never actually admit to their mistake
They wont, but since the world is burning around us anyway, might enjoy the pain of stupid and dumb people.
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United States44150 Posts
On November 06 2024 13:48 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2024 13:45 KwarK wrote:On November 06 2024 13:38 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 06 2024 13:36 Amui wrote:On November 06 2024 13:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This is about as close to a landslide Trump could get, and a catastrophe for Democrats. Trump's outpacing most of his past performances, gaining heavily with minorities, and cutting notably into blue states that may even flip or be perilously close to going red.
Trump's going to likely have a trifecta and a SCOTUS going his way. This is the potential to utterly redefine and reshape America once more. Yep. My takeaway from what I saw in Flash's stream, rural America really turned out to make sure a minority female candidate would never become president. If Walz had been the main ticket, quite frankly I think Dem's take it. Harris got a similar turnout at best in urban areas compared to Biden, and lost by a buttload in rural areas. Walz probably gets a similar turnout to Harris in urban areas, and doesn't energize the red rural areas in the same way. If Dems want any shot in future elections, they need to run some eloquent charismatic middle-age+ white guy. Not someone who will automatically lose several % of the popular vote by default. Or... and here's an idea. Run someone who actually has to win an election to win the fucking nomination. The Democrats took the choice of candidate out of the hands of the voters and voters responded. Gee I wonder when else that happened, oh yea it also happened in 2016. Wonder how many times they'll need to be punished for doing that before they actually learn their lesson. + Show Spoiler +Hillary won the nomination hard in 2016, she was extremely well connected, qualified, and had an awful lot of support within the party. The problem is that Democrats sit around smelling their own farts. They circle jerk about this vision of an aspirational America built on opportunity, equality, a glorious melting pot. They're completely out of touch with just how awful the average American is. They need to get out there, speak to the average voter, and lower their fucking expectations. They need to talk more about the upsides of police brutality and how LGBT people have a mental illness if they want to win. They need to proclaim the virtues of traitor Confederate generals and when they suggest that we're shipping too many precision weapons to Israel it better fucking be the precision part they're objecting to. Kwark is being emotional right now, but this there is some Dem adviser screaming this at important people right now and those important people are seriously considering taking this sort of approach.
The other lesson of Trump is that you don’t actually have to do any of the shit you say you will. Just get elected on promising to repeal democracy, call out the lying press every few days, insult Ted Cruz’s ugly wife, and quietly govern with competence and moderation.
You’re allowed to just lie to the voters about what you’ll do. If anything they seem to prefer that.
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On November 06 2024 13:50 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2024 13:28 Zambrah wrote:
You'd imagine something like losing their civil rights would make people unhappy with the people who took away their civil rights, can't really blame someone for thinking that.
It is certainly becoming clear that American's don't actually value their civil rights in almost any capacity, though. Dont want to get into the meat of what you're describing here but in Russia we have a saying, "I will gouge out my own eye so that my mother-in-law has a blind son-in-law." It sounds a lot better in the original language though, promise.
I dunno, that sounds pretty spot on to me, honestly its such a drastic action for such an absurdly petty result, it gets a 10/10 from me.
Is he wrong though? USA seems to want this. I for one, am just glad to watch this bite the ass of all the morons who voted for Trump.
I think the problem is that a lot of America does want this, and Democrats need to stop acting like these people will ever vote for them.
I've said this again and again and I wish I could say it to a fucking Democrat campaign manager, but getting more turnout is way better than trying to peel off whatever meagre number of swing voters might be out there.
Dick Cheney? Saying you'll have a Republican in your cabinet? Are you fucking kidding me? I was actually a little hyped to vote for Harris for a bit, the ads promising to bring down the cost of housing, fight corporate gouging, etc. was great (I didn't dare dream any of it would be reality, but the words were appreciated) but fuck me, pivoting to "We'll have Republicans in our administration! Doesnt that sound great?!" was so repugnant.
They need to stop trying to appeal to fucking Republicans who will never vote for them anyways, but hey, realistically they're just gonna pivot more to the right next time and it'll totally definitely work this time for sure!
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@kwark Or he just did a better job, Counter to all your idiotic pro Biden posts. Crazy.
Again its not over.
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On November 06 2024 13:54 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2024 13:48 GreenHorizons wrote:On November 06 2024 13:45 KwarK wrote:On November 06 2024 13:38 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 06 2024 13:36 Amui wrote:On November 06 2024 13:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This is about as close to a landslide Trump could get, and a catastrophe for Democrats. Trump's outpacing most of his past performances, gaining heavily with minorities, and cutting notably into blue states that may even flip or be perilously close to going red.
Trump's going to likely have a trifecta and a SCOTUS going his way. This is the potential to utterly redefine and reshape America once more. Yep. My takeaway from what I saw in Flash's stream, rural America really turned out to make sure a minority female candidate would never become president. If Walz had been the main ticket, quite frankly I think Dem's take it. Harris got a similar turnout at best in urban areas compared to Biden, and lost by a buttload in rural areas. Walz probably gets a similar turnout to Harris in urban areas, and doesn't energize the red rural areas in the same way. If Dems want any shot in future elections, they need to run some eloquent charismatic middle-age+ white guy. Not someone who will automatically lose several % of the popular vote by default. Or... and here's an idea. Run someone who actually has to win an election to win the fucking nomination. The Democrats took the choice of candidate out of the hands of the voters and voters responded. Gee I wonder when else that happened, oh yea it also happened in 2016. Wonder how many times they'll need to be punished for doing that before they actually learn their lesson. + Show Spoiler +Hillary won the nomination hard in 2016, she was extremely well connected, qualified, and had an awful lot of support within the party. The problem is that Democrats sit around smelling their own farts. They circle jerk about this vision of an aspirational America built on opportunity, equality, a glorious melting pot. They're completely out of touch with just how awful the average American is. They need to get out there, speak to the average voter, and lower their fucking expectations. They need to talk more about the upsides of police brutality and how LGBT people have a mental illness if they want to win. They need to proclaim the virtues of traitor Confederate generals and when they suggest that we're shipping too many precision weapons to Israel it better fucking be the precision part they're objecting to. Kwark is being emotional right now, but this there is some Dem adviser screaming this at important people right now and those important people are seriously considering taking this sort of approach. The other lesson of Trump is that you don’t actually have to do any of the shit you say you will. + Show Spoiler +Just get elected on promising to repeal democracy, call out the lying press every few days, insult Ted Cruz’s ugly wife, and quietly govern with competence and moderation.
You’re allowed to just lie to the voters about what you’ll do. If anything they seem to prefer that.
That is US politics 101.
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Northern Ireland27072 Posts
On November 06 2024 13:54 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2024 13:48 GreenHorizons wrote:On November 06 2024 13:45 KwarK wrote:On November 06 2024 13:38 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 06 2024 13:36 Amui wrote:On November 06 2024 13:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This is about as close to a landslide Trump could get, and a catastrophe for Democrats. Trump's outpacing most of his past performances, gaining heavily with minorities, and cutting notably into blue states that may even flip or be perilously close to going red.
Trump's going to likely have a trifecta and a SCOTUS going his way. This is the potential to utterly redefine and reshape America once more. Yep. My takeaway from what I saw in Flash's stream, rural America really turned out to make sure a minority female candidate would never become president. If Walz had been the main ticket, quite frankly I think Dem's take it. Harris got a similar turnout at best in urban areas compared to Biden, and lost by a buttload in rural areas. Walz probably gets a similar turnout to Harris in urban areas, and doesn't energize the red rural areas in the same way. If Dems want any shot in future elections, they need to run some eloquent charismatic middle-age+ white guy. Not someone who will automatically lose several % of the popular vote by default. Or... and here's an idea. Run someone who actually has to win an election to win the fucking nomination. The Democrats took the choice of candidate out of the hands of the voters and voters responded. Gee I wonder when else that happened, oh yea it also happened in 2016. Wonder how many times they'll need to be punished for doing that before they actually learn their lesson. + Show Spoiler +Hillary won the nomination hard in 2016, she was extremely well connected, qualified, and had an awful lot of support within the party. The problem is that Democrats sit around smelling their own farts. They circle jerk about this vision of an aspirational America built on opportunity, equality, a glorious melting pot. They're completely out of touch with just how awful the average American is. They need to get out there, speak to the average voter, and lower their fucking expectations. They need to talk more about the upsides of police brutality and how LGBT people have a mental illness if they want to win. They need to proclaim the virtues of traitor Confederate generals and when they suggest that we're shipping too many precision weapons to Israel it better fucking be the precision part they're objecting to. Kwark is being emotional right now, but this there is some Dem adviser screaming this at important people right now and those important people are seriously considering taking this sort of approach. The other lesson of Trump is that you don’t actually have to do any of the shit you say you will. Just get elected on promising to repeal democracy, call out the lying press every few days, insult Ted Cruz’s ugly wife, and quietly govern with competence and moderation. You’re allowed to just lie to the voters about what you’ll do. If anything they seem to prefer that.
Trump is the political equivalent of ‘just play like Maru’ back in the day
If one isn’t Maru, it’s not happening.
Trump is able to behave in ways nobody in his own party can even emulate and get away with, much less the other lot
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Canada11571 Posts
Trump strong on economics policy is one I don't get. Trump's tariff everyone will do nothing but raise prices for the average America. It screwed soybean farmers last go around and so like a good fiscal conservative, Trump subsidized them to the tune of $28B. The crazy inflation was directly related to Covid, US has been better than pretty much anyone else in the world, and has dropped inflation down to 2%. It'll take awhile for wages to catch up, but it's back on track.
Like, in 2008 Harper suddenly started posting deficits but I never saw Harper as responsible for the Great Recession whereas Trump (and for that matter Trudeau) managed to post deficits in economic good times.
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On November 06 2024 13:59 Falling wrote:
Trump strong on economics policy is one I don't get. Trump's tariff everyone will do nothing but raise prices for the average America. It screwed soybean farmers last go around and so like a good fiscal conservative, Trump subsidized them to the tune of $28B. The crazy inflation was directly related to Covid, US has been better than pretty much anyone else in the world, and has dropped inflation down to 2%. It'll take awhile for wages to catch up, but it's back on track.
Like, in 2008 Harper suddenly started posting deficits but I never saw Harper as responsible for the Great Recession whereas Trump (and for that matter Trudeau) managed to post deficits in economic good times.
I dunno man, the cost of housing around my area has about doubled in less than ten years, I do not see my wages outpacing that any time soon
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On November 06 2024 13:54 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2024 13:48 GreenHorizons wrote:On November 06 2024 13:45 KwarK wrote:On November 06 2024 13:38 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 06 2024 13:36 Amui wrote:On November 06 2024 13:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This is about as close to a landslide Trump could get, and a catastrophe for Democrats. Trump's outpacing most of his past performances, gaining heavily with minorities, and cutting notably into blue states that may even flip or be perilously close to going red.
Trump's going to likely have a trifecta and a SCOTUS going his way. This is the potential to utterly redefine and reshape America once more. Yep. My takeaway from what I saw in Flash's stream, rural America really turned out to make sure a minority female candidate would never become president. If Walz had been the main ticket, quite frankly I think Dem's take it. Harris got a similar turnout at best in urban areas compared to Biden, and lost by a buttload in rural areas. Walz probably gets a similar turnout to Harris in urban areas, and doesn't energize the red rural areas in the same way. If Dems want any shot in future elections, they need to run some eloquent charismatic middle-age+ white guy. Not someone who will automatically lose several % of the popular vote by default. Or... and here's an idea. Run someone who actually has to win an election to win the fucking nomination. The Democrats took the choice of candidate out of the hands of the voters and voters responded. Gee I wonder when else that happened, oh yea it also happened in 2016. Wonder how many times they'll need to be punished for doing that before they actually learn their lesson. + Show Spoiler +Hillary won the nomination hard in 2016, she was extremely well connected, qualified, and had an awful lot of support within the party. The problem is that Democrats sit around smelling their own farts. They circle jerk about this vision of an aspirational America built on opportunity, equality, a glorious melting pot. They're completely out of touch with just how awful the average American is. They need to get out there, speak to the average voter, and lower their fucking expectations. They need to talk more about the upsides of police brutality and how LGBT people have a mental illness if they want to win. They need to proclaim the virtues of traitor Confederate generals and when they suggest that we're shipping too many precision weapons to Israel it better fucking be the precision part they're objecting to. Kwark is being emotional right now, but this there is some Dem adviser screaming this at important people right now and those important people are seriously considering taking this sort of approach. You’re allowed to just lie to the voters about what you’ll do. If anything they seem to prefer that.
Dude are u new to politics?
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Northern Ireland27072 Posts
On November 06 2024 13:56 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2024 13:50 Jealous wrote:On November 06 2024 13:28 Zambrah wrote:
You'd imagine something like losing their civil rights would make people unhappy with the people who took away their civil rights, can't really blame someone for thinking that.
It is certainly becoming clear that American's don't actually value their civil rights in almost any capacity, though. Dont want to get into the meat of what you're describing here but in Russia we have a saying, "I will gouge out my own eye so that my mother-in-law has a blind son-in-law." It sounds a lot better in the original language though, promise. I dunno, that sounds pretty spot on to me, honestly its such a drastic action for such an absurdly petty result, it gets a 10/10 from me. Show nested quote +Is he wrong though? USA seems to want this. I for one, am just glad to watch this bite the ass of all the morons who voted for Trump. I think the problem is that a lot of America does want this, and Democrats need to stop acting like these people will ever vote for them. I've said this again and again and I wish I could say it to a fucking Democrat campaign manager, but getting more turnout is way better than trying to peel off whatever meagre number of swing voters might be out there. Dick Cheney? Saying you'll have a Republican in your cabinet? Are you fucking kidding me? I was actually a little hyped to vote for Harris for a bit, the ads promising to bring down the cost of housing, fight corporate gouging, etc. was great (I didn't dare dream any of it would be reality, but the words were appreciated) but fuck me, pivoting to "We'll have Republicans in our administration! Doesnt that sound great?!" was so repugnant. They need to stop trying to appeal to fucking Republicans who will never vote for them anyways, but hey, realistically they're just gonna pivot more to the right next time and it'll totally definitely work this time for sure!
Every. Fucking. Time.
The floating voter who’s actually on the fence between these two and swayed by things like conciliatory gestures to Republicans is a fucking unicorn.
Perhaps they once roamed this Earth proudly wielding their horns, but they have long faded into myth
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In the end, it's the economy, stupid. People even in the cities of deep blue states were hit hard by inflation and saw nothing decrease despite the Biden admin touting GDP figures or decreasing inflation. I think it makes sense for Harris to overperform Biden in more affluent suburbs but slip everywhere else because they felt inflation hard while the wealthier were more insulated.
This is a global trend right now where incumbents are getting unseated because of the crappy economic sentiments, so really, the signs were there.
But this hurts. I fear deeply for what a vengeful Trump with even less fetters and adults in the room will do. Turns out most Americans want a Trump who can promise the good times.
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United States44150 Posts
On November 06 2024 13:59 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2024 13:54 KwarK wrote:On November 06 2024 13:48 GreenHorizons wrote:On November 06 2024 13:45 KwarK wrote:On November 06 2024 13:38 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 06 2024 13:36 Amui wrote:On November 06 2024 13:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This is about as close to a landslide Trump could get, and a catastrophe for Democrats. Trump's outpacing most of his past performances, gaining heavily with minorities, and cutting notably into blue states that may even flip or be perilously close to going red.
Trump's going to likely have a trifecta and a SCOTUS going his way. This is the potential to utterly redefine and reshape America once more. Yep. My takeaway from what I saw in Flash's stream, rural America really turned out to make sure a minority female candidate would never become president. If Walz had been the main ticket, quite frankly I think Dem's take it. Harris got a similar turnout at best in urban areas compared to Biden, and lost by a buttload in rural areas. Walz probably gets a similar turnout to Harris in urban areas, and doesn't energize the red rural areas in the same way. If Dems want any shot in future elections, they need to run some eloquent charismatic middle-age+ white guy. Not someone who will automatically lose several % of the popular vote by default. Or... and here's an idea. Run someone who actually has to win an election to win the fucking nomination. The Democrats took the choice of candidate out of the hands of the voters and voters responded. Gee I wonder when else that happened, oh yea it also happened in 2016. Wonder how many times they'll need to be punished for doing that before they actually learn their lesson. + Show Spoiler +Hillary won the nomination hard in 2016, she was extremely well connected, qualified, and had an awful lot of support within the party. The problem is that Democrats sit around smelling their own farts. They circle jerk about this vision of an aspirational America built on opportunity, equality, a glorious melting pot. They're completely out of touch with just how awful the average American is. They need to get out there, speak to the average voter, and lower their fucking expectations. They need to talk more about the upsides of police brutality and how LGBT people have a mental illness if they want to win. They need to proclaim the virtues of traitor Confederate generals and when they suggest that we're shipping too many precision weapons to Israel it better fucking be the precision part they're objecting to. Kwark is being emotional right now, but this there is some Dem adviser screaming this at important people right now and those important people are seriously considering taking this sort of approach. The other lesson of Trump is that you don’t actually have to do any of the shit you say you will. Just get elected on promising to repeal democracy, call out the lying press every few days, insult Ted Cruz’s ugly wife, and quietly govern with competence and moderation. You’re allowed to just lie to the voters about what you’ll do. If anything they seem to prefer that. Trump is the political equivalent of ‘just play like Maru’ back in the day If one isn’t Maru, it’s not happening. Trump is able to behave in ways nobody in his own party can even emulate and get away with, much less the other lot
There are 300m Americans. They can surely find another old, out of touch, born with a silver spoon, racist, sexist, philandering, corrupt, felonious white man with close ties to Jeffrey Epstein and a long history of crimes against women.
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Northern Ireland27072 Posts
On November 06 2024 13:59 Falling wrote:
Trump strong on economics policy is one I don't get. Trump's tariff everyone will do nothing but raise prices for the average America. It screwed soybean farmers last go around and so like a good fiscal conservative, Trump subsidized them to the tune of $28B. The crazy inflation was directly related to Covid, US has been better than pretty much anyone else in the world, and has dropped inflation down to 2%. It'll take awhile for wages to catch up, but it's back on track.
Like, in 2008 Harper suddenly started posting deficits but I never saw Harper as responsible for the Great Recession whereas Trump (and for that matter Trudeau) managed to post deficits in economic good times.
If folks don’t know shit about economics, or indeed politics then Trump can garner a reputation for being strong on the economy.
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Casual reminder that the Supreme Court gave Biden some options.
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United States44150 Posts
On November 06 2024 14:14 GreenHorizons wrote:
Casual reminder that the Supreme Court gave Biden some options.
But they’re all too gutless to take them.
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Canada11571 Posts
On November 06 2024 14:02 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2024 13:59 Falling wrote:
Trump strong on economics policy is one I don't get. Trump's tariff everyone will do nothing but raise prices for the average America. It screwed soybean farmers last go around and so like a good fiscal conservative, Trump subsidized them to the tune of $28B. The crazy inflation was directly related to Covid, US has been better than pretty much anyone else in the world, and has dropped inflation down to 2%. It'll take awhile for wages to catch up, but it's back on track.
Like, in 2008 Harper suddenly started posting deficits but I never saw Harper as responsible for the Great Recession whereas Trump (and for that matter Trudeau) managed to post deficits in economic good times. I dunno man, the cost of housing around my area has about doubled in less than ten years, I do not see my wages outpacing that any time soon
That's true everywhere, including in my own area. But I don't know what it's like in the US, but in Canada it is a national problem that can only be solved at the local level. It's all about housing supply which is controlled at the zoning level at the municipal level of government. But it can't just be done in one city. It has to be in every city, hence the problem. But point is it's not something that is really controlled at the federal level. Well, in Canada there was a compounding factor that low housing supply had increased strain with increased demand by bringing in one million immigrants per year (total population 40M). So that's the one thing at the federal level that didn't cause the issue, but compounded an already baked in problem.
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On November 06 2024 14:17 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2024 14:02 Zambrah wrote:On November 06 2024 13:59 Falling wrote:
Trump strong on economics policy is one I don't get. Trump's tariff everyone will do nothing but raise prices for the average America. It screwed soybean farmers last go around and so like a good fiscal conservative, Trump subsidized them to the tune of $28B. The crazy inflation was directly related to Covid, US has been better than pretty much anyone else in the world, and has dropped inflation down to 2%. It'll take awhile for wages to catch up, but it's back on track.
Like, in 2008 Harper suddenly started posting deficits but I never saw Harper as responsible for the Great Recession whereas Trump (and for that matter Trudeau) managed to post deficits in economic good times. I dunno man, the cost of housing around my area has about doubled in less than ten years, I do not see my wages outpacing that any time soon That's true everywhere, including in my own area. But I don't know what it's like in the US, but in Canada it is a national problem that can only be solved at the local level. It's all about housing supply which is controlled at the zoning level at the municipal level of government. But it can't just be done in one city. It has to be in every city, hence the problem. But point is it's not something that is really controlled at the federal level. Well, in Canada there was a compounding factor that low housing supply had increased strain with increased demand by bringing in one million immigrants per year (total population 40M). So that's the one thing at the federal level that didn't cause the issue, but compounded an already baked in problem.
You're asking for a lot of nuanced understanding for a typical American voter. A typical American voter is going to see their expenses leap up and their quality of life go down and simply feel that whoever is in charge at the time done fucked up.
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Lol the russian anti-imperialist propaganda from the 1960ties might have cost the dems Michigan by convincing the "gaza supporters" from tiktok to not vote for Harris and now there are some tens of thousands of slashed off biden's result.
Can they mount a Moab to AF1? Netanjahu and Trump may want to hold hands when they drop it on gaza in spring :/
edit: Thank god it's not even close, gaza and westbank will get McDonald's!
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On November 06 2024 14:16 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2024 14:14 GreenHorizons wrote:
Casual reminder that the Supreme Court gave Biden some options. But they’re all too gutless to take them.
Biden should just resign so we at least get the first woman president.
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That would unironically be kind of a giga chad move
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