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On July 08 2022 06:44 NewSunshine wrote:
Yeah, Biden's problem right now is not that his options are limited, it's that it doesn't even look like he's trying to figure out what his options are. He's not testing the limits of what he can accomplish, and he's doing nothing to put the blame where it belongs when his initiatives do fail. For every Manchin and Sinema, there's literally 25 Republicans who shit on the government trying to do anything that has a (D) on it. It feels like he's still doing everything in his power to not upset the irrational violent fascists. Which accomplishes nothing.
Biden has been compromising with these violent fascists his entire career so it's honestly not too surprising. He was not the right person for the job
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Well said sunshine. I want Biden to be pushing boundaries and trying, even if he fails, to make something happen. A leader who asks people “hey what can I do easily” is a shitty leader.
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On July 08 2022 11:54 gobbledydook wrote:A very good take on what is wrong with American politics. https://www.economist.com/leaders/2022/07/07/americas-new-exceptionalismBasically it says that America has failed to legislate and has relied overly on the courts to decide major issues, and now that the courts are stepping back from that role, there is a gaping hole left behind. "America has failed to legislate" does not properly convey that one party has a stated goal of dismantling the federal government and considers a situation where most legislation dies in Congress to be a good outcome.
There is some bipartisan avoidance of responsibility for policy changes by leaving things to the courts, but overwhelmingly America's failure to legislate is a result of an intentional strategy by the Republican party to keep the federal government from functioning.
Anyway, I just popped in to share that a Tennessee court has decided, by dismissing a case, that, under a 2020 law designed to allow organizations to discriminate against LGBT people using the boilerplate "religious freedom angle", an organization receiving government funding can refuse service to people on the basis of their religion. In this case, a Christian agency denied service to Jews. A+ religious freedom.
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Well that would definitely track. When both major parties are mainly only interested in serving the wealthy, massive corporations, their donors, and themselves, they want to have sufficient buffer between them and the invariably shitty laws that hit Americans every day and turn it into a dystopian late-stage capitalist hellscape.
Even the judges who are the de facto lawmakers have insulation from the effects they wreak on the country, because they're merely hearing the cases that were brought to them. Nearly every system of power in the US is built to diffuse responsibility to the point where the rich and powerful can take everything they want and not one person is held to account for it.
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There was an assassination attempt on the former pm of Japan shinzo abe. He's currently in surgery to save his life.
He continued being in the public eye after resigning the pm spot. I wouldn't call him the trump of japan but definitely closer to of George bush had an attempt on his life.
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abe is confirmed dead now
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On July 08 2022 17:50 Sermokala wrote:
There was an assassination attempt on the former pm of Japan shinzo abe. He's currently in surgery to save his life.
He continued being in the public eye after resigning the pm spot. I wouldn't call him the trump of japan but definitely closer to of George bush had an attempt on his life.
Which one?
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On July 08 2022 21:09 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2022 17:50 Sermokala wrote:
There was an assassination attempt on the former pm of Japan shinzo abe. He's currently in surgery to save his life.
He continued being in the public eye after resigning the pm spot. I wouldn't call him the trump of japan but definitely closer to of George bush had an attempt on his life. Which one?
Presumably the living one.
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Right now it is interesting to see how Newsom is slowly becoming the voice of the party through Biden's complete inability to lead. Newsom is fighting back, saying "fine, we'll leave you idiots behind then" and moving forward. Right now I'd take almost anyone over Biden in 2024, but Newsom is high on my list.
Biden has an incredible amount of influence and reach, and yet is so wildly incompetent and inept as a leader that a governor is finding themselves gathering more attention. Shameful display by Biden. He truly totally sucks. At this point I would say it is more likely than not that Biden is primaried in 2024. The most unpopular president in history is not going to be kept around at this rate. We are nowhere near 2024 and he's already sinking hard.
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I think it's more accurate to describe Biden's failure to meet the moment as related to the limitations of his worldview. He isn't incompetent or inept, nor is he lazy, he literally thinks caution and compromise are the way forward post-Trump. He also represents a kind of bipartisan establishment politics that Boomers and Silent Generation folks make the mistake of assuming is the norm or some kind of baseline. Instead, the post WW2 through Reagan period they're using as a point of reference is a temporary blip on a US timeline that is otherwise full of populist, partisan politics in which the winners are the best fighters.
The Whig Party dissolved in large part because it failed to take a cohesive stance on slavery, and despite its popular stances on a lot of issues of its day, it stopped standing for anything meaningful as regional portions of the party started splitting off. Hoping and pushing for something similar with respect to the Democratic Party might be one of the most promising ways forward.
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On July 08 2022 23:25 Mohdoo wrote:
Right now it is interesting to see how Newsom is slowly becoming the voice of the party through Biden's complete inability to lead. Newsom is fighting back, saying "fine, we'll leave you idiots behind then" and moving forward. Right now I'd take almost anyone over Biden in 2024, but Newsom is high on my list.
Biden has an incredible amount of influence and reach, and yet is so wildly incompetent and inept as a leader that a governor is finding themselves gathering more attention. Shameful display by Biden. He truly totally sucks. At this point I would say it is more likely than not that Biden is primaried in 2024. The most unpopular president in history is not going to be kept around at this rate. We are nowhere near 2024 and he's already sinking hard.
I didn't know much about Newsom before and didn't think much of him, but he has impressed me these past couple weeks. He's definitely outshining Biden and showing that Democrats can do more to better people's lives than just trying to pass legislation with the Republican party. Newsom is looking like a good candidate in 2024 if he chooses to run
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I would also add, that most eastern Europeans think that he is doing, at least, an adequate job with regard to Ukraine. He did do and say some questionable things before war, but since it started he is doing ok.
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On July 08 2022 23:37 farvacola wrote:
I think it's more accurate to describe Biden's failure to meet the moment as related to the limitations of his worldview. He isn't incompetent or inept, nor is he lazy, he literally thinks caution and compromise are the way forward post-Trump. He also represents a kind of bipartisan establishment politics that Boomers and Silent Generation folks make the mistake of assuming is the norm or some kind of baseline. Instead, the post WW2 through Reagan period they're using as a point of reference is a temporary blip on a US timeline that is otherwise full of populist, partisan politics in which the winners are the best fighters.
The Whig Party dissolved in large part because it failed to take a cohesive stance on slavery, and despite its popular stances on a lot of issues of its day, it stopped standing for anything meaningful as regional portions of the party started splitting off. Hoping and pushing for something similar with respect to the Democratic Party might be one of the most promising ways forward.
This is good analysis and very likely true. I mean he’s got a whole staff of people who all have staffs of their own. The idea that they aren’t able to do things feels ridiculous so this must really be what he wants to do. This is his plan. Good grief.
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He put it very plainly before he was elected, nothing will fundamentally change. He said it to the people who matter to him, that’s how you know he meant it over things like his campaign promises.
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The way he's carrying things right now, the youth vote which overwhelmingly broke his way and ultimately gave him the election will probably be looking for someone else in '24. The reason they skewed Democratic in the first place is because they saw what the Republicans and the Trumpers politics did, and decided it was dangerous and unacceptable. They voted for Biden because they were looking for a change. This appears more and more naive by the day.
Forget inflation or gas prices. Those things come and go, and Biden certainly wasn't the one going around imposing tariffs on American companies and goods like a dumbass. But he and his party are standing by and watching as the Extreme Court basically burns everything down in front of us. They're acting as powerless as their electorate and simply asking us to vote harder. As though they aren't the next link in the electoral chain. We did vote, you fucking tools. It's your turn.
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Short of Biden being incapacitated, Democrats won't run a primary imo. If they did, I'd certainly not celebrate Newsome winning it.
He's got some slick packaging but if people think they got suckered by Biden...
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On July 09 2022 00:53 GreenHorizons wrote:
Short of Biden being incapacitated, Democrats won't run a primary imo. If they did, I'd certainly not celebrate Newsome winning it.
He's got some slick packaging but if people think they got suckered by Biden...
Elaborate? Seems like a huge upgrade over biden
And just to be clear, I fully understand there really isn’t any democrat politician right now that you would feel puts the country on the right track. I’m more so asking why would the left leaning folks here who perhaps have different criteria or requirements than you would feel duped
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