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On May 25 2022 12:21 Mohdoo wrote:
My wife and I are asking ourselves if it makes sense to send our kid to American schools when this problem just kind of doesn't exist anywhere else. The nature of my career basically makes me a multi-national and I could easily just buy a house somewhere else and have a great job. Am I a bad parent for staying in the US, where these things happen, when I could live somewhere else? Is it selfish to want to remain around family even though this risk is there?
All the parents who lost children today sent their kids to school without any reason to think this would happen, but it did. And while this is by no means a "common" occurrence, statistically speaking, it is hard to swallow the idea of living in the only place in the world where it *does* happen.
Maybe its just that now that I'm raising a baby, these things hit harder, but there's no way this issue will be fixed by the time they're in school. Emotional comfort in family/friends isn't a good trade for my kid to have a statistically lower chance of being shot? The situation is complicated. I'm curious how other parents feel about this. Do you just say "yeah well car crashes happen to, so yolo", or is there a component of this that makes you wonder if this is too much?
Leave the North American continent, things arent going to improve here, get out while a US passport has any value.
Gun violence being the leading cause of death in people aged 1 - 19, aka children, in 2020 is pretty grotesque, so yeah, your fears and concerns are warranted. Get out while the US has status and people from the US aren't viewed like other immigrants are viewed.
https://time.com/6170864/cause-of-death-children-guns/#:~:text=Firearms became the leading cause,in 2020, according to researchers.&text=Firearms became the leading,and Prevention (CDC) data
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On May 25 2022 13:12 plasmidghost wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2022 12:40 Zambrah wrote:On May 25 2022 12:21 Mohdoo wrote:
My wife and I are asking ourselves if it makes sense to send our kid to American schools when this problem just kind of doesn't exist anywhere else. The nature of my career basically makes me a multi-national and I could easily just buy a house somewhere else and have a great job. Am I a bad parent for staying in the US, where these things happen, when I could live somewhere else? Is it selfish to want to remain around family even though this risk is there?
All the parents who lost children today sent their kids to school without any reason to think this would happen, but it did. And while this is by no means a "common" occurrence, statistically speaking, it is hard to swallow the idea of living in the only place in the world where it *does* happen.
Maybe its just that now that I'm raising a baby, these things hit harder, but there's no way this issue will be fixed by the time they're in school. Emotional comfort in family/friends isn't a good trade for my kid to have a statistically lower chance of being shot? The situation is complicated. I'm curious how other parents feel about this. Do you just say "yeah well car crashes happen to, so yolo", or is there a component of this that makes you wonder if this is too much? Leave the North American continent, things arent going to improve here, get out while a US passport has any value. Gun violence being the leading cause of death in people aged 1 - 19, aka children, in 2020 is pretty grotesque, so yeah, your fears and concerns are warranted. Get out while the US has status and people from the US aren't viewed like other immigrants are viewed. https://time.com/6170864/cause-of-death-children-guns/#:~:text=Firearms became the leading cause,in 2020, according to researchers.&text=Firearms became the leading,and Prevention (CDC) data Not to be a full-on doomer, but North America is currently in the same position as the end of Weimar Germany. I do not expect American democracy to last past 2025 at the latest and I fully believe Canada will follow suit shortly after. I cannot begin to express just how badly you need to get your family and get out of the continent. Do anything it takes to secure the safety of the people that mean everything to you. I'm personally sacrificing everything to get out of here on just the hope that I can survive a bit longer than I will here.
I dont think 2025 will be it, but otherwise I agree. America is doomed, leaving is the right choice unless you want to partake in the genuine fighting, which I dont really recommend to anyone.
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On May 25 2022 13:25 plasmidghost wrote:Completely missed the extremely depressing poll Reuters/Ipsos did. Show nested quote +U.S. President Joe Biden's public approval rating fell this week to 36%, the lowest level of his presidency, as Americans suffered from rising inflation, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll completed on Tuesday.
The two-day national poll found that 59% of Americans disapprove of Biden's job performance. His overall approval was down six percentage points from 42% last week.
Biden's approval rating has been below 50% since August, raising alarms that his Democratic Party is on track to lose control of at least one chamber of Congress in the Nov. 8 midterm election.
In a sign of weakening enthusiasm among Democrats, Biden's approval rating within his own party fell to 72% from 76% the prior week. Only 10% of Republicans approve of his job in office.
As low as Biden's overall approval rating is, it remains higher than the lows of his predecessor, Donald Trump, whose approval rating bottomed out at 33% in December 2017.
This year, Biden has been dogged by a surge in U.S. consumer prices, with Russia's invasion of Ukraine helping drive fuel prices higher and global supply chains still hindered by the COVID-19 pandemic.
The Reuters/Ipsos poll is conducted online in English throughout the United States. The latest poll gathered responses from a total of 1,005 adults, including 456 Democrats and 358 Republicans. It has a credibility interval - a measure of precision - of four percentage points. https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-BIDEN/POLL/nmopagnqapa/index.html
I can absolutely understand Biden not having high approval ratings. If i were in the US, i would probably also not respond with high approval to such a question. I would still vote for him, but i would be far from happy with his presidency so far.
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United States44285 Posts
On May 25 2022 12:21 Mohdoo wrote:
My wife and I are asking ourselves if it makes sense to send our kid to American schools when this problem just kind of doesn't exist anywhere else. The nature of my career basically makes me a multi-national and I could easily just buy a house somewhere else and have a great job. Am I a bad parent for staying in the US, where these things happen, when I could live somewhere else? Is it selfish to want to remain around family even though this risk is there?
All the parents who lost children today sent their kids to school without any reason to think this would happen, but it did. And while this is by no means a "common" occurrence, statistically speaking, it is hard to swallow the idea of living in the only place in the world where it *does* happen.
Maybe its just that now that I'm raising a baby, these things hit harder, but there's no way this issue will be fixed by the time they're in school. Emotional comfort in family/friends isn't a good trade for my kid to have a statistically lower chance of being shot? The situation is complicated. I'm curious how other parents feel about this. Do you just say "yeah well car crashes happen to, so yolo", or is there a component of this that makes you wonder if this is too much?
My wife was considering raising our kids in England today for the same reason.
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On May 25 2022 13:31 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2022 12:21 Mohdoo wrote:
My wife and I are asking ourselves if it makes sense to send our kid to American schools when this problem just kind of doesn't exist anywhere else. The nature of my career basically makes me a multi-national and I could easily just buy a house somewhere else and have a great job. Am I a bad parent for staying in the US, where these things happen, when I could live somewhere else? Is it selfish to want to remain around family even though this risk is there?
All the parents who lost children today sent their kids to school without any reason to think this would happen, but it did. And while this is by no means a "common" occurrence, statistically speaking, it is hard to swallow the idea of living in the only place in the world where it *does* happen.
Maybe its just that now that I'm raising a baby, these things hit harder, but there's no way this issue will be fixed by the time they're in school. Emotional comfort in family/friends isn't a good trade for my kid to have a statistically lower chance of being shot? The situation is complicated. I'm curious how other parents feel about this. Do you just say "yeah well car crashes happen to, so yolo", or is there a component of this that makes you wonder if this is too much? My wife was considering raising our kids in England today for the same reason.
May I prod you for perhaps too personal perspective? Why stay in the US? Why not move back? When you have the option, why stay here? I'm truly having a hard time saying the financial benefits are that significant.
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On May 25 2022 12:40 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2022 12:21 Mohdoo wrote:
My wife and I are asking ourselves if it makes sense to send our kid to American schools when this problem just kind of doesn't exist anywhere else. The nature of my career basically makes me a multi-national and I could easily just buy a house somewhere else and have a great job. Am I a bad parent for staying in the US, where these things happen, when I could live somewhere else? Is it selfish to want to remain around family even though this risk is there?
All the parents who lost children today sent their kids to school without any reason to think this would happen, but it did. And while this is by no means a "common" occurrence, statistically speaking, it is hard to swallow the idea of living in the only place in the world where it *does* happen.
Maybe its just that now that I'm raising a baby, these things hit harder, but there's no way this issue will be fixed by the time they're in school. Emotional comfort in family/friends isn't a good trade for my kid to have a statistically lower chance of being shot? The situation is complicated. I'm curious how other parents feel about this. Do you just say "yeah well car crashes happen to, so yolo", or is there a component of this that makes you wonder if this is too much? Leave the North American continent, things arent going to improve here, get out while a US passport has any value. Gun violence being the leading cause of death in people aged 1 - 19, aka children, in 2020 is pretty grotesque, so yeah, your fears and concerns are warranted. Get out while the US has status and people from the US aren't viewed like other immigrants are viewed. https://time.com/6170864/cause-of-death-children-guns/#:~:text=Firearms became the leading cause,in 2020, according to researchers.&text=Firearms became the leading,and Prevention (CDC) data
From that article:
Within the numbers for adults, 65% of those gun deaths were the result of suicides, while 30% were from homicides. For teens and kids, those percentages are roughly flipped.
Amazingly fucked up.
If I could figure out a way to get out of the country, I would.
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Teach english abroad, thats the easiest way to escape this hopeless shithole.
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On May 25 2022 12:17 plasmidghost wrote:
I think I can safely say that every single GOP politician, media personality, and voter has the blood of these children on their hands.
The GOP is the party of death, misery, and suffering. Pro-life is a complete lie
Republicans are a cancer to the planet and the world would be a better place if the party didnt exist.
The party and the conservative mediasphere needs to be dismantled. Im not sure how, but it must happen. There is a special place in hell for Rupert Murdoch and the clowns at fox news that continue to divide our country with their poison on TV.
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United States44285 Posts
On May 25 2022 13:42 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2022 13:31 KwarK wrote:On May 25 2022 12:21 Mohdoo wrote:
My wife and I are asking ourselves if it makes sense to send our kid to American schools when this problem just kind of doesn't exist anywhere else. The nature of my career basically makes me a multi-national and I could easily just buy a house somewhere else and have a great job. Am I a bad parent for staying in the US, where these things happen, when I could live somewhere else? Is it selfish to want to remain around family even though this risk is there?
All the parents who lost children today sent their kids to school without any reason to think this would happen, but it did. And while this is by no means a "common" occurrence, statistically speaking, it is hard to swallow the idea of living in the only place in the world where it *does* happen.
Maybe its just that now that I'm raising a baby, these things hit harder, but there's no way this issue will be fixed by the time they're in school. Emotional comfort in family/friends isn't a good trade for my kid to have a statistically lower chance of being shot? The situation is complicated. I'm curious how other parents feel about this. Do you just say "yeah well car crashes happen to, so yolo", or is there a component of this that makes you wonder if this is too much? My wife was considering raising our kids in England today for the same reason. May I prod you for perhaps too personal perspective? Why stay in the US? Why not move back? When you have the option, why stay here? I'm truly having a hard time saying the financial benefits are that significant.
The US has been pretty good to me so far. I’m white, straight, male and rich. My son is just 2 so unlikely to be killed in a school shooting yet. My earning potential in the UK is lower so I’d rather earn more in the US while I can.
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Another reason that as a poor person I’m not having any kids in this dump of a country. Once they hit five they’re entered in the Public School Death Lottery.
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On May 25 2022 15:33 Zambrah wrote:
Another reason that as a poor person I’m not having any kids in this dump of a country. Once they hit five they’re entered in the Public School Death Lottery.
Makes them a lot cheaper to raise though
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That’s dark even by my major depressive standards lol
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While understandable (i would NOT raise kids in the US), it's still fucking sad to see good people rather leave, than trying to do something about the more than obvious problems in their country. Democracy in the most powerful nation the world has ever seen is at stake, we need you guys.
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Disagree here. There is just so much fucked up shit in the US, and it is basically impossible to change any of that due to entrenched bullshit. I would leave too. Shitholes get brain drain, that is just how it is.
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Theres almost nothing to do that isn't going to involve violence, anyone who isnt prepared for that is probably better served leaving.
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On May 25 2022 07:32 plasmidghost wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2022 07:14 JimmiC wrote:Guns, Jesus and babies will solve this. It is a false flag by the deep state. Here comes the excuses. Like I said Biden does not matter, you could have a house cat as the opponent of a Rep right now and it comes down to whether you think everything awful is the deepstates fault or if maybe there is some actual issues to tackle. And yes the cat could tackle them better than Trump because the cat won't reverse what little exists. Edit: the Ted Cruz answer is more gunz! Damn all these other countries without gunz do not have this problem, but the USA which has the most gunz and the most shootings, I KNOW I KNOW what will fix it, MORE GUNZ!!! You know inevitably, when there's a murderer of this kind, you see politicians try to politicize it, you see Democrats and a lot of folks in the media whose immediate solution is to try to restrict the constitutional rights of law abiding citizens. That doesn't work. It's not effective. It doesn't prevent crime,” he said.
Instead, Cruz advocated for more armed law enforcement resources on school campuses.
“There's no doubt we need to do more to keep children in school safe. We know from past experience one of the most effective tool for keeping kids safe is armed law enforcement on the campus. We don't know the details of what happened at Robb Elementary School, but there will be a lot of time to examine what steps could have been taken proactively to enhance the safety and security of the school right now," he said. We are literally living in a police state that gets more fascist every day
Nonono... You don't live in a police state.
I do. You live in a free state, idiots being in charge. If at least %50 of American's demand a change, sooner or later things will be better.
I live in a police state, being charged by a clever dictator. Even if more then %50 of Turks demand a change, there is no guarantee. Because you know... If you have absolute power, you will absolutely try everything to keep that power.
There is a hope for you, not for me.
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