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On February 06 2021 11:03 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2021 10:31 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The "documentary" MyPillow guy just aired on OAN (preceded by a minute and 30 second disclaimer from OAN claiming it was in no way their views) is almost guaranteed to get him sued by SmartMatic as well.
These people are so used to being the plaintiffs destroying the lives of little people they don't understand what happens when they're the defendent. They are incapable of realizing they could ever be the little people. He wants to run for governor of Minnesota next cycle. God help us he could actually win.
I'm highly skeptical he has any chance.
Demographic change, turnout trends, and the accessibility of voting in Minnesota has all been going in the Democrats' favor. The GOP hasn't won a statewide election in over a decade and I think that the discussion about MN being a swing state is really quite overblown at this point. I don't think that putting up a complete lunatic is a winning formula for the GOP here, particularly since Waltz isn't really that unpopular.
I also don't think that the MN GOP will let him run as their candidate. The diehard Trumpers are limited to a few federal house representatives while all of the major GOP players in MN politics are running from Trump as fast as they can.
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On February 06 2021 06:51 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2021 06:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I'm sure nothing bad can happen with this if it passes. Absolutely nothing bad at all. On the one hand, my inner nerd would die to live in something like this. On the other hand...it'll be the worst ran thing in existence. The Governor of Nevada plans to introduce new legislation that would effectively allow tech companies to form separate local governments within the state. In a draft proposal obtained by the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Governor Steve Sisolak calls for creating what he calls “Innovation Zones.” Were the legislation to pass, companies with substantial amounts of money that operate in verticals like blockchain, artificial intelligence and renewables would have the option to form local governments with the same powers and responsibilities as counties. That means they would be able to collect taxes, as well as operate things like school boards and courts. Source What the actual fuck Oo Why, just what are they hoping to accomplish? Who do 'innovative' companies need to collect taxes and operate public schools or courts?
Doesnt make sense lol
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Oh, it is just the next logical step on the ladder, you have to stay competetive, you know!
Everyone here has to pay taxes
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Please come here, we offer you reduced taxes.
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Please come here, you don't have to pay any taxes at all.
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Please come here, we even give you money for it.
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Please come here, you can even collect your own taxes here!
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On February 07 2021 00:56 mahrgell wrote:
Oh, it is just the next logical step on the ladder, you have to stay competetive, you know!
Everyone here has to pay taxes
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Please come here, we offer you reduced taxes.
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Please come here, you don't have to pay any taxes at all.
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Please come here, we even give you money for it.
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Please come here, you can even collect your own taxes here!
If it was a smart city ran by the right people, it could work. But leaving it up to congos and corpos isn't the way to go about it.
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I am guessing that is slang for conglomerates and that it's not related to either African country.
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Wouldn't that be conglos then? Either way it's one heck of an odd slang I've never heard of.
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*laughs in cyberpunk* Yeah. Definitely not related to anything African. I figured since Nevada is putting us on the path of a cyberpunk world, might as well get the lingo going.
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Now that Greene has the support she has, at what point do we address the fact that the Republican Party has a cultural problem? At this point it appears Trump won the primary from being the craziest dumbass rather than anything relating to populism or charisma
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On February 07 2021 09:18 Mohdoo wrote:
Now that Greene has the support she has, at what point do we address the fact that the Republican Party has a cultural problem? At this point it appears Trump won the primary from being the craziest dumbass rather than anything relating to populism or charisma
I don't know if you've been paying attention but it's always been like this. The Republican party has changed very little from nixons southern strategy and the dems have failed for a generation to elect any real leftist politician.
Neoliberalism has become the status quo so much that the only response is to shift to the fringes. Republicans dont know any communists so they with what's familiar.
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On February 07 2021 09:59 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2021 09:18 Mohdoo wrote:
Now that Greene has the support she has, at what point do we address the fact that the Republican Party has a cultural problem? At this point it appears Trump won the primary from being the craziest dumbass rather than anything relating to populism or charisma I don't know if you've been paying attention but it's always been like this. The Republican party has changed very little from nixons southern strategy and the dems have failed for a generation to elect any real leftist politician. Neoliberalism has become the status quo so much that the only response is to shift to the fringes. Republicans dont know any communists so they with what's familiar.
Until Palin, it was more of like the monster republicans kept in the cellar. Then Palin paved the way for Trump. Trump made the monster in the cellar the main component of the party.
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You'd think the capitol riots and the impeachment coming with that would be a easy reset button for most 'sane republican' politicians who were all posting anonymous newspaper interviews during these 4 years of how hard of a time they had with supporting Trumpism and what comes with that. Like it's an easy way out, vote convict, he can't hold office anymore, he can't tweet anymore, you as 'honest republican politician' point out how Trump made millions from his post election lawsuit fundraising disappear and how he scammed his own people living paycheck to paycheck to put money in some unknown slush fund, and Trumpism dies in 6 months.
Instead you have McCarthy going down to Mar-a-Lago to kiss the ring, and a big embrace of literal insane people spawned by Trumpism like Taylor Greene. The republican embracement of the 'deep state' narrative and the 'voter fraud' narrative empowered some fucking random 4-chan forum posts to become a new religion. It's madness.
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On February 07 2021 21:57 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
You'd think the capitol riots and the impeachment coming with that would be a easy reset button for most 'sane republican' politicians who were all posting anonymous newspaper interviews during these 4 years of how hard of a time they had with supporting Trumpism and what comes with that. Like it's an easy way out, vote convict, he can't hold office anymore, he can't tweet anymore, you as 'honest republican politician' point out how Trump made millions from his post election lawsuit fundraising disappear and how he scammed his own people living paycheck to paycheck to put money in some unknown slush fund, and Trumpism dies in 6 months.
Instead you have McCarthy going down to Mar-a-Lago to kiss the ring, and a big embrace of literal insane people spawned by Trumpism like Taylor Greene. The republican embracement of the 'deep state' narrative and the 'voter fraud' narrative empowered some fucking random 4-chan forum posts to become a new religion. It's madness.
They are obviously scared of losing around half their voters, and the will of 74 million can not be brushed under a carpet. My impression is that they scramble to ride both horses to keep the party together. The only real other option would be ousting the alt-right and slowly rebuild a new base, closer to the centre, but having drifted rightward for a long time, that is no easy operation, and it would mean losing almost all their power short term.
Oh, and I wonder if there are Americans getting a disgusting taste in their mouth seeing how the military in Myanmar used bullshit claims of voter fraud as an excuse for a successful military coup. It is very hard for the US to claim the moral high ground after Trump...
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I think The GQP’s votes on Trump impeachment will be seen as a referendum on Greene. And in that regard, I think Trump might be convicted of party leadership like McConnell thinks the party is soon about to be an actual cult.
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On February 08 2021 01:43 Mohdoo wrote:
I think The GQP’s votes on Trump impeachment will be seen as a referendum on Greene. And in that regard, I think Trump might be convicted of party leadership like McConnell thinks the party is soon about to be an actual cult.
There isn't a snowball's chance in hell Trump gets convicted by the senate. All but 5 GOP senators voted to declare the impeachment trial unconstitutional. How are 12 of them gonna vote to convict him after in a trial they went on record to declare unconstitutional? There's no referendum on anything, they will vote against conviction but claim it's because of process/form rather than content.
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On February 08 2021 02:27 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2021 01:43 Mohdoo wrote:
I think The GQP’s votes on Trump impeachment will be seen as a referendum on Greene. And in that regard, I think Trump might be convicted of party leadership like McConnell thinks the party is soon about to be an actual cult. There isn't a snowball's chance in hell Trump gets convicted by the senate. All but 5 GOP senators voted to declare the impeachment trial unconstitutional. How are 12 of them gonna vote to convict him after in a trial they went on record to declare unconstitutional? There's no referendum on anything, they will vote against conviction but claim it's because of process/form rather than content. Its why we keep talking about actions over words.
You have several Republicans, including Mitch McConnell, talk about what Trump did as being impeachable. But then when it comes to actions they vote against the trial.
There is not a hint of remorse over the last 4 years, ending with a violent insurrection attack on the capitol, by the Republicans.
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On February 08 2021 02:27 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2021 01:43 Mohdoo wrote:
I think The GQP’s votes on Trump impeachment will be seen as a referendum on Greene. And in that regard, I think Trump might be convicted of party leadership like McConnell thinks the party is soon about to be an actual cult. There isn't a snowball's chance in hell Trump gets convicted by the senate. All but 5 GOP senators voted to declare the impeachment trial unconstitutional. How are 12 of them gonna vote to convict him after in a trial they went on record to declare unconstitutional? There's no referendum on anything, they will vote against conviction but claim it's because of process/form rather than content.
I understand and would have agreed more with this 2 weeks ago. But I think they are at an actual cross roads here and it’s not clear they are cool with where things are going. I agree the chances are higher of acquittal, but I do think Greene (people need to stop calling her magic the gathering) is a more toxic version of Trump. She funnels republican anger like Palin but she doesn’t have Trump’s crucial charisma. The charisma is what completes Trump’s extreme power. As has been said before, Trump is what weak men think a strong man looks like. They admire him.
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On February 08 2021 04:33 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2021 02:27 Dan HH wrote:On February 08 2021 01:43 Mohdoo wrote:
I think The GQP’s votes on Trump impeachment will be seen as a referendum on Greene. And in that regard, I think Trump might be convicted of party leadership like McConnell thinks the party is soon about to be an actual cult. There isn't a snowball's chance in hell Trump gets convicted by the senate. All but 5 GOP senators voted to declare the impeachment trial unconstitutional. How are 12 of them gonna vote to convict him after in a trial they went on record to declare unconstitutional? There's no referendum on anything, they will vote against conviction but claim it's because of process/form rather than content. I understand and would have agreed more with this 2 weeks ago. But I think they are at an actual cross roads here and it’s not clear they are cool with where things are going. I agree the chances are higher of acquittal, but I do think Greene (people need to stop calling her magic the gathering) is a more toxic version of Trump. She funnels republican anger like Palin but she doesn’t have Trump’s crucial charisma. The charisma is what completes Trump’s extreme power. As has been said before, Trump is what weak men think a strong man looks like. They admire him. Yes they are at a crossroads but the issue is that they no longer have both hands on the steering wheel.
For decades the GOP has been cultivating their base and 'Trumpism' is mere the latest result of that, before Trump it was the Tea Party as a reaction to the GOP failing to keep a black man out of the White House.
Republican congressmen likely fear a repeat of the Tea Party, where a bunch of them got primaried to put in someone more crazy, if they go against Trump.
Because the people that Greene represents make up a large part of the party base.
In order to take back control and keep out people like Greene they would need to exclude parts of their own base from their own primaries or risk them simply voting in more crazy people and since the US is a 2 party system, if they start actively attacking their own base they will likely lose, and lose big, for years to come.
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