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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6221 Posts
This seemed like a perfect opportunity to pass a clean, effective relief bill, let the reps block it repeatedly, and just keep asking whether the country really wants that to happen every day for the next two years. It would obviously be painful in the short term for a huge number of people, but Georgia is everything at this point. | ||
Sermokala
United States13753 Posts
On December 21 2020 06:49 Belisarius wrote: I'm not against compromise in principle, but I do think the house should have held firm where they started. This seemed like a perfect opportunity to pass a clean, effective relief bill, let the reps block it repeatedly, and just keep asking whether the country really wants that to happen every day for the next two years. It would obviously be painful in the short term for a huge number of people, but Georgia is everything at this point. The reps have an effective message saying that they want to pass the relief bill piece by piece but the dems refuse to give you anything until they get everything they want and nothing less. | ||
Sermokala
United States13753 Posts
On December 21 2020 06:18 LegalLord wrote: I'm glad someone finally offered at least a tiny bit of pushback against the unfettered operation of the JPow casino. It's not much but it was worth it. Its hard because its undenyable to say that stimulus is cost-effective for saving the economy but you just know there's no chance anyone will actually give a shit about the debt on the other side. | ||
Mohdoo
United States15401 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On December 21 2020 09:50 Mohdoo wrote: Does this stimulus bill include the bullshit about restricting Biden’s future fed? No. On Saturday, Toomey argued on the Senate floor that three pandemic-related lending programs should end because they've "achieved their purpose." Democrats pushed back, arguing that Toomey's provision would also prevent future Treasury secretaries from restarting the lending programs. But legislators said they reached a compromise on the issue late Saturday, after hours of talks between Toomey and Schumer. According to a senior Democratic aide, Toomey "agreed to drop the broad language in his proposal that would have prevented the Fed chair from establishing similar facilities in the future to the ones created [by the CARES Act] in March." Source | ||
Gorsameth
Netherlands21373 Posts
Can't help but feel like Democrats are already giving in way to much. | ||
ZerOCoolSC2
8935 Posts
But I'm more concerned if the Dems don't take GA how shitty it'll be for the next two years. They're going to have to print money for the next 6 months and this 900bn isn't going to help the people who really need it. 600 direct payment and a boost in UI? Not going to pay the rent for those in more expensive areas. | ||
LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On December 21 2020 07:08 Sermokala wrote: Its hard because its undenyable to say that stimulus is cost-effective for saving the economy but you just know there's no chance anyone will actually give a shit about the debt on the other side. The economy sure doesn't feel all that saved, what with the 700k-1m new unemployed weekly. Stock market is doing decent though. | ||
Zambrah
United States7124 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15401 Posts
On December 21 2020 15:02 Zambrah wrote: Its worth considering, even if only one of the Senate GA runoff goes Democrat, it seems like theres a fair opportunity to have Senator Hawley break off from Republicans on Stimulus Check stuff, so you'd only need one additional senator to pass that sort of thing in a best case scenario way. Doesn’t Mitch still get to decide what gets voted on? So he could just say no to whatever? Man I really hope we win Georgia but I am expecting 2-3% losses in both. | ||
Zambrah
United States7124 Posts
On December 21 2020 15:35 Mohdoo wrote: Doesn’t Mitch still get to decide what gets voted on? So he could just say no to whatever? Man I really hope we win Georgia but I am expecting 2-3% losses in both. Im predicting a Warnocke win and an Ossoff loss personally, but I could see a dual loss/dual win, any combination really seems within the realm of possibility at this point. Forgot about that power, what a bizarre and tyrannical power for one person in the Senate to have. | ||
ShoCkeyy
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ZerOCoolSC2
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Individual benefits $600 direct payment checks for every adult and child earning up to $75,000. Individuals earning between $75,000 and $99,000 would get smaller checks, and the benefit cuts out entirely for individuals earning over $99,000. Unemployment benefits: Lawmakers agreed to extend enhanced unemployment benefits for jobless workers, who will receive up to $300 per week through mid-March. Self-employed people and gig workers will also receive extended assistance. Rental assistance: The measure includes $25 billion to help families pay their rent, and it extends the eviction moratorium now in effect until Jan. 31. SNAP assistance: Democrats say the measure includes an additional $13 billion for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. Small-business help PPP loans: The agreement includes some $284 billion for Paycheck Protection Program loans. Democrats say they expanded eligibility for the loans to include nonprofits and local newspapers, along with TV and radio stations. Also, $15 billion would be reserved for live venues, independent movie theaters and cultural institutions, which have been struggling due to pandemic-forced closures. Child care centers: According to a Republican summary of the plan, the measure includes $10 billion for child care centers to help providers safely reopen. Vaccines The agreement includes some $68 billion to purchase and distribute COVID-19 vaccines and help states conduct testing. According to the Republican summary, $20 billion of that funding will make the vaccine available at no cost for anybody needing it. Broadband access The measure contains $7 billion to increase access to broadband Internet, including a new Emergency Broadband Benefit that Democrats say will help millions of students' families and unemployed workers afford the broadband they need during the pandemic. Transportation aid Lawmakers also agreed to provide $45 billion in transportation-related assistance, including: $16 billion for airlines to pay the salaries of workers and contractors. $14 billion for mass transit agencies. $10 billion for highways. $1 billion for Amtrak. Education The measure contains $82 billion in funding for schools and universities to assist with reopening, including, according to a Republican summary, $2.75 billion for private K-12 education. Agriculture There is some $13 billion in the measure for farmers and agriculture, including money under the Coronavirus Food Assistance Program for growers and livestock, dairy and poultry producers. Medical bills The measure also includes a provision ending surprise medical billing. Republicans say patients would be required to receive a "true and honest cost estimate" three days before any scheduled procedure and that billing disputes would be subject to arbitration. Tax-deductible meals Lawmakers also included a provision sought by President Trump, making the cost of meals a deductible business expense. NPR | ||
LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Rent assistance, unemployment, and medical billing are some excellent measures I want to call out. | ||
Sadist
United States7182 Posts
Previously it was 150k-199k for married filing jointly and something like 112k for head of household. I assume itll be the same this time. | ||
farvacola
United States18818 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10047 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On December 22 2020 06:40 FlaShFTW wrote: Any word if the Tillis DMCA felony got included in the bill? Haven't read up on it but I care most about that little part. It did. AOC : | ||
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