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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
July 20 2020 15:43 GMT
#50181
Right so you now have no excuse to say that the entire US has a joke of a voting system, because now you admit that you know that some parts of the country have better voting then others.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1970 Posts
July 20 2020 16:09 GMT
#50182
Okay, fair enough. The US are a joke because they allow some of their states to have a joke of a voting system. I am kidding, please don't shoot me

I just find it very strange that society allows for that kind of behaviour, that politicians are allowed to adjust their main form of income, being voted into office, by laying the rules for it themselves and the voters mostly agree with them because it's their side that is pinking the rules. In germany, the parties presented new laws how to reduce the size of our parliament, as the complex electoral process was creating more and more seats with more parties being elected. Surprisingly, the ruling CDU proposed a system that would only benefit them. It's weird to me how they can be that shameless and sometimes even get away with it.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
July 20 2020 16:39 GMT
#50183
Almost like politicians in every country have similarly poor incentive structures, and it affects behavior.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-20 17:50:10
July 20 2020 17:48 GMT
#50184
On July 21 2020 00:43 Sermokala wrote:
Right so you now have no excuse to say that the entire US has a joke of a voting system, because now you admit that you know that some parts of the country have better voting then others.

Technically true. However, when a major problem occurs in nationwide elections because of any amount of bad voting systems, that throws the entire result into question. Any Democratic system can only be effective when the people voting into it have implicit trust in it, and that's hard if it feels like certain regions of the US have little, or very skewed, electoral representation. We are one nation, and states like Georgia, Alabama, Florida, etc. are very much weak links that need to be addressed. We accept so much handwaving when it comes to reasons why it's ok that voting is difficult, when it should be an unquestionable human right in this country. Voting should never be a challenge or, for some, a technical impossibility.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22703 Posts
July 20 2020 20:59 GMT
#50185
Its something atleast. Trump has finally publicly shown support for wearing a mask.
Have the dropping polls finally gotten through to him and could this herald a change in strategy going forward?

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1970 Posts
July 20 2020 21:03 GMT
#50186
This tweet is so absurdly comical, on so many different levels. How are there people following that guy religiously? :D
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12086 Posts
July 20 2020 21:06 GMT
#50187
On July 21 2020 06:03 Broetchenholer wrote:
This tweet is so absurdly comical, on so many different levels. How are there people following that guy religiously? :D


I guess one should applaud Trump for moving slightly into the direction of not being the worst possible president during a pandemic?

But it is indeed quite comical. "The invisible China virus" "No one is more patriotic then me" "Your favorite president"

Also, of course, random capitalization. I assume UICV PPP doesn't mean anything?
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-20 21:23:51
July 20 2020 21:21 GMT
#50188
Well, yeah. We saw this coming. Now he believes it's patriotic, and has believed so all along. And he's the most patriotic. I know this because he said so! Now we can sweep his utter dogshit response from the previous six months under the rug, and just pretend 150,000 people haven't died.

How many people had to die for Obama's tan suit to be an outrage? Oh yeah, 0.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 20 2020 23:04 GMT
#50189
On July 21 2020 00:43 Sermokala wrote:
Right so you now have no excuse to say that the entire US has a joke of a voting system, because now you admit that you know that some parts of the country have better voting then others.

When is our national holiday/convenient day the overwhelming majority of the populace for voting again?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24507 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-20 23:40:16
July 20 2020 23:33 GMT
#50190
Giving Republicans like Kasich a platform at the Dem convention seems like a terrible idea. Someone who has done so much to actively strip women of their bodily autonomy and workers of their rights/protections should probably be indefinitely banned from such an event, not given the mic imo.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1102 Posts
July 20 2020 23:52 GMT
#50191
On July 21 2020 08:33 GreenHorizons wrote:
Giving Republicans like Kasich a platform at the Dem convention seems like a terrible idea. Someone who has done so much to actively strip women of their bodily autonomy and workers of their rights/protections should probably be indefinitely banned from such an event, not given the mic imo.

Kasich represents the "sane" Republicans. Certainly some major disagreements with guys like him, but bringing them over to the democrat side for this election can potentially swing the election without giving them anything except not being Trump.

If you tell them to fuck off, some may go back to Trump because you're not willing to even give them the most basic amount of inclusion.

Basically, not lose a thing by adding Kasich and potentially gain states like Ohio.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24507 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-21 00:00:25
July 21 2020 00:00 GMT
#50192
On July 21 2020 08:52 RenSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2020 08:33 GreenHorizons wrote:
Giving Republicans like Kasich a platform at the Dem convention seems like a terrible idea. Someone who has done so much to actively strip women of their bodily autonomy and workers of their rights/protections should probably be indefinitely banned from such an event, not given the mic imo.

Kasich represents the "sane" Republicans. Certainly some major disagreements with guys like him, but bringing them over to the democrat side for this election can potentially swing the election without giving them anything except not being Trump.

If you tell them to fuck off, some may go back to Trump because you're not willing to even give them the most basic amount of inclusion.

Basically, not lose a thing by adding Kasich and potentially gain states like Ohio.


I just see it as more evidence of Democrats continuing a several decades long move rightward to appeal to the ever so elusive 'sane Republicans' who just keep accepting the concessions for nothing in return.

Patriot act, tax cuts, space force, concentration camp funding, on and on and on.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
July 21 2020 00:37 GMT
#50193
Wait, that’s a fucking real Tweet? Sweet baby Jesus...
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 21 2020 00:48 GMT
#50194
Are... are Trumps hands photoshopped bigger in that picture? lol
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
July 21 2020 04:46 GMT
#50195
On July 21 2020 06:06 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2020 06:03 Broetchenholer wrote:
This tweet is so absurdly comical, on so many different levels. How are there people following that guy religiously? :D


I guess one should applaud Trump for moving slightly into the direction of not being the worst possible president during a pandemic?

But it is indeed quite comical. "The invisible China virus" "No one is more patriotic then me" "Your favorite president"

Also, of course, random capitalization. I assume UICV PPP doesn't mean anything?


Don't worry, I'm sure Q will figure out how UICV PPP is a reference to Wayfair and freeing Britney in the next 12 hours or so.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
July 21 2020 08:34 GMT
#50196
On July 21 2020 09:48 Gahlo wrote:
Are... are Trumps hands photoshopped bigger in that picture? lol


?? It looks perfectly fine to me.
NoiR
Neneu
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway492 Posts
July 21 2020 10:07 GMT
#50197
On July 21 2020 09:48 Gahlo wrote:
Are... are Trumps hands photoshopped bigger in that picture? lol


I think the angle of the photo makes them appear larger (read normal sized) than usual. Similar to how you can make the fish you just caught fishing seem larger than it is.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 21 2020 11:19 GMT
#50198
On July 21 2020 19:07 Neneu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2020 09:48 Gahlo wrote:
Are... are Trumps hands photoshopped bigger in that picture? lol


I think the angle of the photo makes them appear larger (read normal sized) than usual. Similar to how you can make the fish you just caught fishing seem larger than it is.

The hand in the foreground, sure, but the other one seems off to me.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
July 21 2020 12:16 GMT
#50199
I'm pretty sure it's just perspective from a fairly wide lens up a bit too close, but it is 2020 and the President of the United States undeniably sent that tweet, so who knows.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 21 2020 20:39 GMT
#50200
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