• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 10:27
CET 16:27
KST 00:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon [D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War List of top players active on ShieldBattery [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Stratus: Battle for the sky now on steam Early acc Deus Ex 3!?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7818 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 1502

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1500 1501 1502 1503 1504 6070 Next
Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting!

NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.


If you have any questions, comments, concern, or feedback regarding the USPMT, then please use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/510156-us-politics-thread
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
May 29 2019 11:08 GMT
#30021
On May 29 2019 09:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2019 09:34 iamthedave wrote:
On May 29 2019 07:00 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Japan has a sizeable police force. They are also mostly unarmed. Crime there is so small to be nonexistent.


Eh, that's not exactly true.

Violent crimes are generally very low (depending on area), but crimes like larceny and the like are pretty common. Japan IS generally pretty law-abiding though, by the standards of the modern day.

I concur with your expansion of my claim. When I lived and visited, it was alarming. I slept by the river with the homeless and nothing happened. I did get picked up by the Yakuza one day. That was interesting and kinda scary. But nothing happened.


The Yakuza are kind of weird. They have a usual ethic to leave foreigners out of their business unless the circumstances are specific (i.e. you're in their way). Ordinarily if footsoldiers mess with tourists they get the shit kicked out of them by their superiors.

What did happen, though? I'm kind of curious. Why'd they pick you up?
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-29 11:22:55
May 29 2019 11:17 GMT
#30022
On May 29 2019 20:08 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2019 17:32 Godwrath wrote:
On May 29 2019 10:50 JimmiC wrote:
I mean if he goes up against Trump it will be this vs saying that your daughter is a 10 and the only thing stopping you from dating her is that she is your daughter, and that the thing you and her have in common is "sex".

I think he would be OK. Where stuff like this might hurt him is in getting the nomination.

What democrats and republicans understand as acceptable behaviour from their candidate is not the same. I thought that was crystal-clear already.

Which is why I said it might hurt him in getting the nomination. So far though he is leading so enough people find this not that disturbing.
¿?
You are not only voted in nomination. That's the same silly argument where you take votes for granted. It will hurt him during the presidential campaign aswell. Because getting into mud-slinging contests with Trump just invigorates his potential base, while yours facepalm over your candidate for getting to that level.

To be honest, i am getting the same vibe i got for 2016, where the suppossedly pragmatic centrists were so naive and generally short-sighted about their primary election, that it was way more painful to read than it is to read xDaunt lawyering up to avoid answering a direct question about if he finds something morally reprehensibile or not.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12619 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-29 12:32:45
May 29 2019 12:24 GMT
#30023
Biden is a comically bad choice to oppose Trump, which is why every republican everywhere goes "Oh, no, please don't pick Biden, he is probably the best choice against Trump, we are very scared".

Biden will have more appeal than other candidates on republicans. But you know who else will have a lot of appeal on republicans? The republican candidate. So you're trying to get the votes of the demographic that is least likely to vote for you in the first place. It's bad strategy.

So far Biden has mostly focused on painting characters. And here are the characters that he painted: republicans are mostly sane and good people but they got tricked by Trump who is awful and terrible, once Trump is gone the republicans are going to be fine again like they were in the past. The left, the progressives? They're silly. Ignore them, dismiss them. It's bad optics.

If we look back at Hillary vs Donald, a lot of what was working for Donald was the racism and the bigotry, no question. Another thing that worked was that the situation allowed him to also make dishonest leftist points, because Hillary was decidedly not leftwing (despite all the bullshit that we heard on this forum during all the campaign). So you have on one side the people who want a change, whether a change to the right or a change to the left, and on the other side the people who think the situation is fine today and the status quo should continue. This is not actually true, of course, as Trump would never make a move toward a leftwing change. But we're talking rhetorics, so the truth doesn't matter. It's bad tactics.

Biden has talked about policy very little, but what he said was awful. He wants a middle ground on climate change? Wtf is that. He's against all the popular policies of the left, because of course he is. So on top of everything else, it's also bad policy.

There is no redeeming quality there.
No will to live, no wish to die
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4462 Posts
May 29 2019 12:49 GMT
#30024
On May 29 2019 17:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
saying that Biden is a perv because he said a little girl was good looking (wtf is even wrong with that) .

Are you for real? Maybe it’s a Euro thing but for me calling a 10 year old good looking?
It’s super creepy especially considering Bidens record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-29 12:58:06
May 29 2019 12:57 GMT
#30025
Calling a 10 year old girl pretty or something like that is totally normal. You probably shouldn't do it if your the kids Teacher or Priest for obvious reasons but in general there is nothing unusual about this?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44439 Posts
May 29 2019 12:58 GMT
#30026
On May 29 2019 21:49 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2019 17:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
saying that Biden is a perv because he said a little girl was good looking (wtf is even wrong with that) .

Are you for real? Maybe it’s a Euro thing but for me calling a 10 year old good looking?
It’s super creepy especially considering Bidens record.

His record of partying on the Lolita Express with actual pedophile Epstein? Wait, that's Trump's record.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-29 13:33:53
May 29 2019 13:23 GMT
#30027
On May 29 2019 21:49 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2019 17:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
saying that Biden is a perv because he said a little girl was good looking (wtf is even wrong with that) .

Are you for real? Maybe it’s a Euro thing but for me calling a 10 year old good looking?
It’s super creepy especially considering Bidens record.


I don't see any problem with calling children beautiful, or adorable, or smart, because those positive words reinforces their own view about themselves. It gives them a better outcome in life, and not think negative about themselves.

Then you have Trump walking in on girls naked in the dressing room for Miss USA, saying he can do things like that cause he's the owner so he can "inspect". I also included a video of him trying to also kiss a little girl what looks like in the mouth on live TV... And if you look at where his right hand is, it's under her arse, in between her legs.

Life?
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9256 Posts
May 29 2019 13:29 GMT
#30028
On May 29 2019 21:49 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2019 17:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
saying that Biden is a perv because he said a little girl was good looking (wtf is even wrong with that) .

Are you for real? Maybe it’s a Euro thing but for me calling a 10 year old good looking?
It’s super creepy especially considering Bidens record.

Shouldn't you 'political correctness gone mad' crowd be against this culture of men being afraid of interacting with children in the US?
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12619 Posts
May 29 2019 13:54 GMT
#30029
You guys really need to stop treating Nettles as a failed liberal...

Nettles is, at best, indifferent about how women are treated. He isn't attacking Biden because he really cares about women and he somehow hasn't realized that Trump is worse on the subject of women. He is attacking Biden because Biden is the enemy, and everything that you can use against the enemy is good.

This is like when the fascists in Israel complain about political violence from Palestinians and are completely fine with political violence from Israel against Palestinians. The issue isn't that they haven't figured out the contradiction that you see there. The issue is that "we should use the same standards for all people" is not an universal view, and they don't share it.
No will to live, no wish to die
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 29 2019 14:13 GMT
#30030
--- Nuked ---
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-29 14:36:19
May 29 2019 14:36 GMT
#30031
Mueller is making a statement at 11am. EST.
Life?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 29 2019 14:37 GMT
#30032
Looks like Mueller has something to say in 25 minutes. I see two possibilities. He either is going to try to get in front of the declassification freight train by laying a new anti-Barr narrative, or he is merely going up there to rebut the claims in that new Wolff book about having drafted an indictment of Trump.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32761 Posts
May 29 2019 14:43 GMT
#30033
On May 29 2019 23:37 xDaunt wrote:
Looks like Mueller has something to say in 25 minutes. I see two possibilities. He either is going to try to get in front of the declassification freight train by laying a new anti-Barr narrative, or he is merely going up there to rebut the claims in that new Wolff book about having drafted an indictment of Trump.

A WaPo reporter says it's not responding to Wolff's new book. Odds are Mueller is clarifying a few questions at best and speaking publicly to sate Democrat desires for him to say anything.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
May 29 2019 14:43 GMT
#30034
On May 29 2019 23:37 xDaunt wrote:
Looks like Mueller has something to say in 25 minutes. I see two possibilities. He either is going to try to get in front of the declassification freight train by laying a new anti-Barr narrative, or he is merely going up there to rebut the claims in that new Wolff book about having drafted an indictment of Trump.


Wapo reporting it is not about the book
Something witty
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22703 Posts
May 29 2019 14:46 GMT
#30035
I would expect its something to do with the attempts to get him into a public hearing?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24505 Posts
May 29 2019 14:49 GMT
#30036
I'm betting on it being disappointing and largely undeserving of the buildup.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 29 2019 14:49 GMT
#30037
Looks like he wants to make a public statement about the report without being subject to adversarial questioning.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
May 29 2019 14:50 GMT
#30038
On May 29 2019 23:49 xDaunt wrote:
Looks like he wants to make a public statement about the report without being subject to adversarial questioning.


He is trying to avoid giving a public hearing. That is all this is
Something witty
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 29 2019 14:53 GMT
#30039
There's no need for a new anti Barr narrative. All he needs is to confirm how badly the letter represented the report and that Barr misrepresented his statements in the phonecall.

I am prepared to be disappointed. Him not wanting to testify publicly, and not taking questions now, makes me think he just wants to sail off in the sunset instead of taking a stance one way or another.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
May 29 2019 14:55 GMT
#30040
On May 29 2019 23:13 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2019 20:17 Godwrath wrote:
On May 29 2019 20:08 JimmiC wrote:
On May 29 2019 17:32 Godwrath wrote:
On May 29 2019 10:50 JimmiC wrote:
I mean if he goes up against Trump it will be this vs saying that your daughter is a 10 and the only thing stopping you from dating her is that she is your daughter, and that the thing you and her have in common is "sex".

I think he would be OK. Where stuff like this might hurt him is in getting the nomination.

What democrats and republicans understand as acceptable behaviour from their candidate is not the same. I thought that was crystal-clear already.

Which is why I said it might hurt him in getting the nomination. So far though he is leading so enough people find this not that disturbing.
¿?
You are not only voted in nomination. That's the same silly argument where you take votes for granted. It will hurt him during the presidential campaign aswell. Because getting into mud-slinging contests with Trump just invigorates his potential base, while yours facepalm over your candidate for getting to that level.

To be honest, i am getting the same vibe i got for 2016, where the suppossedly pragmatic centrists were so naive and generally short-sighted about their primary election, that it was way more painful to read than it is to read xDaunt lawyering up to avoid answering a direct question about if he finds something morally reprehensibile or not.


? Look, Biden would not be my choice. But trying to say that this event is bad is actually playing into their hands. It was a non story, it is only a story because of the "creepy" Joe" narrative. I mean look who posted the story on this sight danglars. Do you really think he is super concerned? Come on man you are getting played. Over reacting to this type of thing is probably more likely to cost voters than being reasonable about a grandpa aged man complimenting a girl. If had said "well your a handsome young fella" and put his hands on his shoulders would it be an issue? Now take the Trump clip where we picks the girl up, hand between the legs and goes for the lip kiss, would be disturbing with both.

Don't get into the mud. flop around and pretend like this is a real story, write if off for what it is. Danglars concern trolling to try to get division in his opponents. And it might be 2016 again but for the reason you stated but for the reason of so much infighting over stupid shit that they are not united to fight the actual battle.
I am getting played... about what exactly? Dude, you are not even getting the point, is that Biden is not electable for a big chunk of the american left, and the fear the Trump perspective won't work (That's what GH was saying, why would he vote for Biden if the radical change he feels is needed won't happen anyways). That appealing to "more centrist" republicans won't work. You need to energize your base by appealing to your base. I don't give two shits about the "creepy joe" thing, that's not what makes him unelectable in the first place.

You say this only affects him in the primaries, and i facepalm hard because that's exactly the same point about Hillary. That the left should vote for her just because Trump.

And about the mudslinging contests, Do you realize that you (and others) were already making the comparison with Trump's daughter?
Prev 1 1500 1501 1502 1503 1504 6070 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IntoTheTV X SOOP
20:00
Premier - Final Day
herO vs Solar
MaxPax vs SHIN
CranKy Ducklings SOOP55
WardiTV27
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 304
ProTech147
BRAT_OK 34
EnDerr 5
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4586
Shuttle 881
BeSt 468
actioN 187
Last 109
Zeus 105
Hyun 63
Sea.KH 62
Snow 56
sSak 48
[ Show more ]
Trap 33
sOs 30
Yoon 27
HiyA 27
Rock 20
Aegong 18
yabsab 18
Sharp 15
Sacsri 14
zelot 14
Dota 2
Dendi1538
qojqva272
Counter-Strike
zeus365
jkaem108
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox161
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor274
crisheroes204
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1129
Lowko372
DeMusliM291
Mew2King110
QueenE96
NeuroSwarm44
Railgan24
amsayoshi20
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV821
Counter-Strike
PGL119
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 12
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 52
• Adnapsc2 32
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 15
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• WagamamaTV419
• Shiphtur76
Upcoming Events
IPSL
1h 34m
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
BSL
4h 34m
Cross vs Puma
Artosis vs Spine
Replay Cast
7h 34m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 18h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 20h
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
IPSL
6 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-05
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.