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On February 19 2026 03:53 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2026 03:19 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 19 2026 03:00 Jankisa wrote:On February 19 2026 02:47 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 19 2026 01:42 Jankisa wrote:I like the Epstein class; it does seem like, especially in the US, where the problem of money influencing politics, well, not just politics, everything is the most extreme, almost all of these tech oligarchs have some connections with Epstein, one way or another. The other thing that connects them is their utter lack of philanthropy, a very good article on this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbeswealthteam/2026/02/09/americas-top-25-philanthropists---and-why-musk-page-and-ellison-arent-on-the-list/In total, the nation’s top 25 philanthropists have donated $275 billion so far in their lifetimes, an uptick of $34 billion over last year. That’s a huge sum but represents just 14% of their combined fortunes, the smallest percentage since 2021. One notable fact: six of the top 25 are solo women; another 11 are husband and wife (or ex-husband and wife) teams. They don't care, at best they will give their wives some money to throw around (Bezos, Gates, Balmer, Zuck) who will then basically give this to schools or programs trying to cure diseases they had someone in their families suffer from (Sergey Brin) or their pet "AI will solve everything" projects (Zuck). + Show Spoiler +Musk, of course, despite being the "richest" on paper, doesn't even break the top 25. I think that one of the reasons why AOC triggered our "centrist" compatriots here and why they went on to attack her so rabidly is because she has the balls to go after the real enemy and say it out loud: Basically, everything most of us agree is the issue for most people, no anti-trust, money in politics, companies and individuals having more money than nation states. Of course, they went after her and decided to go on the attack; they felt threatened. By them, I mean the Fox News and the rest of the media, both social and legacy, which, of course, our resident "centrists" lapped up and came here to attack, because that is the level they operate at. The ones in the top 25 also mostly just give the money to themselves. Basically, they donate to charities they functionally control to avoid that money being given to the government in taxes. One of the things exposed in the (shamefully underexposed) Panama and Pandora Papers was that the US is basically one of the best places in the world to hide your wealth from the rest of society. It's a bipartisan problem, but "Dynasty Trusts" (which I presume most people have never heard of) might be among the most preposterous examples of why. + Show Spoiler +Oh, absolutely, I mean, I'm aware of this, I believe most people are, some are just way worse about it, and some don't even care enough to try to project a philanthropic image to even do that. No one disagrees that billionaires are a bipartisan issue, the difference is that, just like Musk doesn't even pretend to care about anyone other than himself, Republicans dedicate their whole party platform to protecting them and shoving as much money into their coffers as they can, while Democrats at least try to pretend like they don't and some of them are even openly opposed to them. Both parties (or the capitalist uniparty) leadership disagrees. That's part of why one of the worst (and longest) offending states is the political home of the last Democrat president. Nevermind the Clintons, Haiti, and "charity"/"Friends of Bill". Or them partying with Epstein and Trump. This compulsion to "But the other party?!?!" and to incessantly mock and gawk from Republicans and Democrats is part of how this scam keeps going. Every time you go on one of these, I'll just post this, because, well, they are executing people in the streets, kidnapping them and taking them to concentration camps:
If both parties really were the same you'd just say "Both sides bad" and not vote. The fact that GH is constantly pleading with leftists to stop voting for Democrats while getting annoyed that they ever have to even talk about Republicans at all is telling.
I even gave them a recipe for how to be taken seriously in just a few steps, but they insist on driving their clown car off a cliff every post instead. I guess the people MLK Jr. called "white moderates" just can't help themselves.
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On February 19 2026 03:53 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2026 03:19 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 19 2026 03:00 Jankisa wrote:On February 19 2026 02:47 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 19 2026 01:42 Jankisa wrote:I like the Epstein class; it does seem like, especially in the US, where the problem of money influencing politics, well, not just politics, everything is the most extreme, almost all of these tech oligarchs have some connections with Epstein, one way or another. The other thing that connects them is their utter lack of philanthropy, a very good article on this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbeswealthteam/2026/02/09/americas-top-25-philanthropists---and-why-musk-page-and-ellison-arent-on-the-list/In total, the nation’s top 25 philanthropists have donated $275 billion so far in their lifetimes, an uptick of $34 billion over last year. That’s a huge sum but represents just 14% of their combined fortunes, the smallest percentage since 2021. One notable fact: six of the top 25 are solo women; another 11 are husband and wife (or ex-husband and wife) teams. They don't care, at best they will give their wives some money to throw around (Bezos, Gates, Balmer, Zuck) who will then basically give this to schools or programs trying to cure diseases they had someone in their families suffer from (Sergey Brin) or their pet "AI will solve everything" projects (Zuck). + Show Spoiler +Musk, of course, despite being the "richest" on paper, doesn't even break the top 25. I think that one of the reasons why AOC triggered our "centrist" compatriots here and why they went on to attack her so rabidly is because she has the balls to go after the real enemy and say it out loud: https://youtu.be/rbmPHFIFC_U?t=1297Basically, everything most of us agree is the issue for most people, no anti-trust, money in politics, companies and individuals having more money than nation states. Of course, they went after her and decided to go on the attack; they felt threatened. By them, I mean the Fox News and the rest of the media, both social and legacy, which, of course, our resident "centrists" lapped up and came here to attack, because that is the level they operate at. The ones in the top 25 also mostly just give the money to themselves. Basically, they donate to charities they functionally control to avoid that money being given to the government in taxes. One of the things exposed in the (shamefully underexposed) Panama and Pandora Papers was that the US is basically one of the best places in the world to hide your wealth from the rest of society. It's a bipartisan problem, but "Dynasty Trusts" (which I presume most people have never heard of) might be among the most preposterous examples of why. + Show Spoiler +Oh, absolutely, I mean, I'm aware of this, I believe most people are, some are just way worse about it, and some don't even care enough to try to project a philanthropic image to even do that. No one disagrees that billionaires are a bipartisan issue, the difference is that, just like Musk doesn't even pretend to care about anyone other than himself, Republicans dedicate their whole party platform to protecting them and shoving as much money into their coffers as they can, while Democrats at least try to pretend like they don't and some of them are even openly opposed to them. Both parties (or the capitalist uniparty) leadership disagrees. That's part of why one of the worst (and longest) offending states is the political home of the last Democrat president. Nevermind the Clintons, Haiti, and "charity"/"Friends of Bill". Or them partying with Epstein and Trump. This compulsion to "But the other party?!?!" and to incessantly mock and gawk from Republicans and Democrats is part of how this scam keeps going. Every time you go on one of these, I'll just post this, because, well, they are executing people in the streets, kidnapping them and taking them to concentration camps: + Show Spoiler + "Go on one of these" meaning? Pointing out that the "left wing" (they're centrist capitalist on a real political spectrum) of the capitalist party are not "the same" as the right wing, while also pointing out they are part of the problem, not a solution?
I'll also remind you that Democrats helped lay the foundations for them to do that. Including yucking it up with the people doing it before their hubris led to the fascists expanding the longstanding violent persecution of oppressed people (some of the worst of it by Democrat controlled police departments https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site ) in the US.
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EDIT: Republican and Democrat voters/supporters bickering over which people they should let exploit and abuse everyone for the Epstein class just means everyone (but the Epstein class) is losing. Although...
There's something I think most people have started to notice in the US, which is that there's also the "lackey class" that the economy is somewhat accommodating. It's the ~top 10% that are basically being bribed with shiny trinkets for their complicity.
https://www.marketplace.org/story/2025/09/17/top-10-of-earners-make-up-half-of-us-retail-spending
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MTG and Pam bondage might have more in common than one would think.
Mostly the bondage.
It‘s been a while since I ordered Russian hookers from the trusted trafficker at the EU parliament, but then I remembered that this isn‘t the US and that I prefer cauliflower on the plate and not on my dick.
Idk, maybe I‘ll sift a bit through what‘s public today.
Edit: Did that for a bit. Looks heavily cropped, the stuff.
There‘s at least another president involved though…
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Again, you are preaching to the choir, no one disagrees that Democrats are a corporatist party who has done plenty of bad shit over the years, and will, inevitably do more.
They are still much better for me, the world and an average American.
They didn't start any of the relatively recent wars, they didn't start any of the trade wars and states where they govern on average have much, much better outcomes for average people.
It's incredibly obtuse and rude to keep on banging the same drum as if everyone here hasn't heard every intimate thought you have had about the Democratic party.
It's not interesting, original and it doesn't relate to the current situation and crisis that the world is dealing with.
No one fucking cares about how fucking stupid Hilary's team and Democrats were in 2016, in case you didn't check lately, it's 2026 and all the bad shit that is happening is enacted by Republican president, congress and senate.
If Democrats get some semblance of power back in the midterms and start fucking up, which they will, please come here and shit on them all you like, in the meantime, stop, you are showing incredible lack of humanity, the people in their concentration camps that are being denied meals or contact with their families, who are being beaten up, raped, killed don't give a flying fuck about what Hillary did in 2016 or if her, Bill and Trump were buddies before that.
For fuck sake man, honestly, your brain is just as broken and fucked up as oBlade's.
I'm glad you stopped posting your tankie takes in the Russia / Ukraine thread, maybe it's time for you to do the same here until the midterms, because you are just making a fool out of yourself and annoying everyone else for no fucking reason.
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On February 19 2026 05:31 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2026 04:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 19 2026 03:53 Jankisa wrote:On February 19 2026 03:19 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 19 2026 03:00 Jankisa wrote:On February 19 2026 02:47 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 19 2026 01:42 Jankisa wrote:I like the Epstein class; it does seem like, especially in the US, where the problem of money influencing politics, well, not just politics, everything is the most extreme, almost all of these tech oligarchs have some connections with Epstein, one way or another. The other thing that connects them is their utter lack of philanthropy, a very good article on this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbeswealthteam/2026/02/09/americas-top-25-philanthropists---and-why-musk-page-and-ellison-arent-on-the-list/In total, the nation’s top 25 philanthropists have donated $275 billion so far in their lifetimes, an uptick of $34 billion over last year. That’s a huge sum but represents just 14% of their combined fortunes, the smallest percentage since 2021. One notable fact: six of the top 25 are solo women; another 11 are husband and wife (or ex-husband and wife) teams. They don't care, at best they will give their wives some money to throw around (Bezos, Gates, Balmer, Zuck) who will then basically give this to schools or programs trying to cure diseases they had someone in their families suffer from (Sergey Brin) or their pet "AI will solve everything" projects (Zuck). + Show Spoiler +Musk, of course, despite being the "richest" on paper, doesn't even break the top 25. I think that one of the reasons why AOC triggered our "centrist" compatriots here and why they went on to attack her so rabidly is because she has the balls to go after the real enemy and say it out loud: https://youtu.be/rbmPHFIFC_U?t=1297Basically, everything most of us agree is the issue for most people, no anti-trust, money in politics, companies and individuals having more money than nation states. Of course, they went after her and decided to go on the attack; they felt threatened. By them, I mean the Fox News and the rest of the media, both social and legacy, which, of course, our resident "centrists" lapped up and came here to attack, because that is the level they operate at. The ones in the top 25 also mostly just give the money to themselves. Basically, they donate to charities they functionally control to avoid that money being given to the government in taxes. One of the things exposed in the (shamefully underexposed) Panama and Pandora Papers was that the US is basically one of the best places in the world to hide your wealth from the rest of society. It's a bipartisan problem, but "Dynasty Trusts" (which I presume most people have never heard of) might be among the most preposterous examples of why. + Show Spoiler +Oh, absolutely, I mean, I'm aware of this, I believe most people are, some are just way worse about it, and some don't even care enough to try to project a philanthropic image to even do that. No one disagrees that billionaires are a bipartisan issue, the difference is that, just like Musk doesn't even pretend to care about anyone other than himself, Republicans dedicate their whole party platform to protecting them and shoving as much money into their coffers as they can, while Democrats at least try to pretend like they don't and some of them are even openly opposed to them. Both parties (or the capitalist uniparty) leadership disagrees. That's part of why one of the worst (and longest) offending states is the political home of the last Democrat president. Nevermind the Clintons, Haiti, and "charity"/"Friends of Bill". Or them partying with Epstein and Trump. This compulsion to "But the other party?!?!" and to incessantly mock and gawk from Republicans and Democrats is part of how this scam keeps going. Every time you go on one of these, I'll just post this, because, well, they are executing people in the streets, kidnapping them and taking them to concentration camps: + Show Spoiler + "Go on one of these" meaning? Pointing out that the "left wing" (they're centrist capitalist on a real political spectrum) of the capitalist party are not "the same" as the right wing, while also pointing out they are part of the problem, not a solution? I'll also remind you that Democrats helped lay the foundations for them to do that. Including yucking it up with the people doing it before their hubris led to the fascists expanding the longstanding violent persecution of oppressed people (some of the worst of it by Democrat controlled police departments https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site ) in the US. + Show Spoiler +EDIT: Republican and Democrat voters/supporters bickering over which people they should let exploit and abuse everyone for the Epstein class just means everyone (but the Epstein class) is losing. Although... There's something I think most people have started to notice in the US, which is that there's also the "lackey class" that the economy is somewhat accommodating. It's the ~top 10% that are basically being bribed with shiny trinkets for their complicity. https://www.marketplace.org/story/2025/09/17/top-10-of-earners-make-up-half-of-us-retail-spending Again, you are preaching to the choir, no one disagrees that Democrats are a corporatist party who has done plenty of bad shit over the years, and will, inevitably do more. They are still much better for me, + Show Spoiler +the world and an average American.
They didn't start any of the relatively recent wars, they didn't start any of the trade wars and states where they govern on average have much, much better outcomes for average people.
It's incredibly obtuse and rude to keep on banging the same drum as if everyone here hasn't heard every intimate thought you have had about the Democratic party.
It's not interesting, original and it doesn't relate to the current situation and crisis that the world is dealing with. No one fucking cares about how fucking stupid Hilary's team and Democrats were in 2016, in case you didn't check lately, it's 2026 and all the bad shit that is happening is enacted by Republican president, congress and senate. If Democrats get some semblance of power back in the midterms and start fucking up, which they will, please come here and shit on them all you like, in the meantime, stop, you are showing incredible lack of humanity, the people in their concentration camps that are being denied meals or contact with their families, who are being beaten up, raped, killed don't give a flying fuck about what Hillary did in 2016 or if her, Bill and Trump were buddies before that. + Show Spoiler +For fuck sake man, honestly, your brain is just as broken and fucked up as oBlade's.
I'm glad you stopped posting your tankie takes in the Russia / Ukraine thread, maybe it's time for you to do the same here until the midterms, because you are just making a fool out of yourself and annoying everyone else for no fucking reason.
The bold is really a lot of the crux of it.
People refuse to see how we couldn't have gotten Trump/Republicans (or the Dynasty Trusts) without the Clintons and Biden/Democrats (and Delaware).
"No one fucking cares about how fucking stupid Hilary's team and Democrats were in 2016" or have been for decades, or how Biden's/Democrats hubris got us Trump 2.0 (among countless other issues) or the people that have suffered/died as a consequence, because for all the problems, it's working well enough for you/them.
One funny thing is, we all know no one advocating incremental reformism through Democrat electoralism will accept that when their family ends up on the chopping block.
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Democrats don't win election -> people suffer -> "why didn't Democrats stop this?" -> refuse to vote for Democrats because they can't do anything while they don't have power -> Democrats don't win election
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On February 19 2026 06:09 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2026 05:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 19 2026 05:31 Jankisa wrote:On February 19 2026 04:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 19 2026 03:53 Jankisa wrote:On February 19 2026 03:19 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 19 2026 03:00 Jankisa wrote:On February 19 2026 02:47 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 19 2026 01:42 Jankisa wrote:I like the Epstein class; it does seem like, especially in the US, where the problem of money influencing politics, well, not just politics, everything is the most extreme, almost all of these tech oligarchs have some connections with Epstein, one way or another. The other thing that connects them is their utter lack of philanthropy, a very good article on this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbeswealthteam/2026/02/09/americas-top-25-philanthropists---and-why-musk-page-and-ellison-arent-on-the-list/In total, the nation’s top 25 philanthropists have donated $275 billion so far in their lifetimes, an uptick of $34 billion over last year. That’s a huge sum but represents just 14% of their combined fortunes, the smallest percentage since 2021. One notable fact: six of the top 25 are solo women; another 11 are husband and wife (or ex-husband and wife) teams. They don't care, at best they will give their wives some money to throw around (Bezos, Gates, Balmer, Zuck) who will then basically give this to schools or programs trying to cure diseases they had someone in their families suffer from (Sergey Brin) or their pet "AI will solve everything" projects (Zuck). + Show Spoiler +Musk, of course, despite being the "richest" on paper, doesn't even break the top 25. I think that one of the reasons why AOC triggered our "centrist" compatriots here and why they went on to attack her so rabidly is because she has the balls to go after the real enemy and say it out loud: https://youtu.be/rbmPHFIFC_U?t=1297Basically, everything most of us agree is the issue for most people, no anti-trust, money in politics, companies and individuals having more money than nation states. Of course, they went after her and decided to go on the attack; they felt threatened. By them, I mean the Fox News and the rest of the media, both social and legacy, which, of course, our resident "centrists" lapped up and came here to attack, because that is the level they operate at. The ones in the top 25 also mostly just give the money to themselves. Basically, they donate to charities they functionally control to avoid that money being given to the government in taxes. One of the things exposed in the (shamefully underexposed) Panama and Pandora Papers was that the US is basically one of the best places in the world to hide your wealth from the rest of society. It's a bipartisan problem, but "Dynasty Trusts" (which I presume most people have never heard of) might be among the most preposterous examples of why. + Show Spoiler +Oh, absolutely, I mean, I'm aware of this, I believe most people are, some are just way worse about it, and some don't even care enough to try to project a philanthropic image to even do that. No one disagrees that billionaires are a bipartisan issue, the difference is that, just like Musk doesn't even pretend to care about anyone other than himself, Republicans dedicate their whole party platform to protecting them and shoving as much money into their coffers as they can, while Democrats at least try to pretend like they don't and some of them are even openly opposed to them. Both parties (or the capitalist uniparty) leadership disagrees. That's part of why one of the worst (and longest) offending states is the political home of the last Democrat president. Nevermind the Clintons, Haiti, and "charity"/"Friends of Bill". Or them partying with Epstein and Trump. This compulsion to "But the other party?!?!" and to incessantly mock and gawk from Republicans and Democrats is part of how this scam keeps going. Every time you go on one of these, I'll just post this, because, well, they are executing people in the streets, kidnapping them and taking them to concentration camps: + Show Spoiler + "Go on one of these" meaning? Pointing out that the "left wing" (they're centrist capitalist on a real political spectrum) of the capitalist party are not "the same" as the right wing, while also pointing out they are part of the problem, not a solution? I'll also remind you that Democrats helped lay the foundations for them to do that. Including yucking it up with the people doing it before their hubris led to the fascists expanding the longstanding violent persecution of oppressed people (some of the worst of it by Democrat controlled police departments https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site ) in the US. + Show Spoiler +EDIT: Republican and Democrat voters/supporters bickering over which people they should let exploit and abuse everyone for the Epstein class just means everyone (but the Epstein class) is losing. Although... There's something I think most people have started to notice in the US, which is that there's also the "lackey class" that the economy is somewhat accommodating. It's the ~top 10% that are basically being bribed with shiny trinkets for their complicity. https://www.marketplace.org/story/2025/09/17/top-10-of-earners-make-up-half-of-us-retail-spending Again, you are preaching to the choir, no one disagrees that Democrats are a corporatist party who has done plenty of bad shit over the years, and will, inevitably do more. They are still much better for me, + Show Spoiler +the world and an average American.
They didn't start any of the relatively recent wars, they didn't start any of the trade wars and states where they govern on average have much, much better outcomes for average people.
It's incredibly obtuse and rude to keep on banging the same drum as if everyone here hasn't heard every intimate thought you have had about the Democratic party.
It's not interesting, original and it doesn't relate to the current situation and crisis that the world is dealing with. No one fucking cares about how fucking stupid Hilary's team and Democrats were in 2016, in case you didn't check lately, it's 2026 and all the bad shit that is happening is enacted by Republican president, congress and senate. If Democrats get some semblance of power back in the midterms and start fucking up, which they will, please come here and shit on them all you like, in the meantime, stop, you are showing incredible lack of humanity, the people in their concentration camps that are being denied meals or contact with their families, who are being beaten up, raped, killed don't give a flying fuck about what Hillary did in 2016 or if her, Bill and Trump were buddies before that. + Show Spoiler +For fuck sake man, honestly, your brain is just as broken and fucked up as oBlade's.
I'm glad you stopped posting your tankie takes in the Russia / Ukraine thread, maybe it's time for you to do the same here until the midterms, because you are just making a fool out of yourself and annoying everyone else for no fucking reason. The bold is really a lot of the crux of it. People refuse to see how we couldn't have gotten Trump/Republicans (or the Dynasty Trusts) without the Clintons and Biden/Democrats (and Delaware). "No one fucking cares about how fucking stupid Hilary's team and Democrats were in 2016" or have been for decades, or how Biden's/Democrats hubris got us Trump 2.0 (among countless other issues) or the people that have suffered/died as a consequence, because for all the problems, it's working well enough for you/them. One funny thing is, we all know no one advocating incremental reformism through Democrat electoralism will accept that when their family ends up on the chopping block. Democrats don't win election -> people suffer -> "why didn't Democrats stop this?" -> refuse to vote for Democrats because they can't do anything while they don't have power -> Democrats don't win election ad infinitum
Except in reality...
Black people suffer from a racial wealth gap-> Black people ensure Democrats win elections -> Democrats don't improve that wealth gap-> Black people continue voting for them their whole lives at rates unparalleled by any other groups -> Democrats lose to fascists because of their hubris -> The transition from mass disruptive politics to electoral incorporation helped stabilize a racial wealth order that remains largely intact.
Movements fought for change, flooded the streets, and demanded justice, and the system pulled them in, calmed the unrest, and left who owns what largely the same. People won legal rights and political seats, but real economic power stayed concentrated at the top.
Meanwhile, the rules of capitalism shifted to protect wealth. Investments are taxed less than work. Finance operates with fewer limits. Housing became a vehicle for family wealth. Unions weakened. Dynasty trusts let the rich pass assets across generations with minimal interference.
These are not isolated policies. Together, they reinforce class power. Bringing movements into electoral politics stabilized the system without redistributing wealth. This has happened under both Democratic and Republican administrations, showing that representation alone rarely changes the underlying distribution of wealth or addresses structural inequality. Inequality, including racial wealth gaps, continues to reproduce itself.
The result is a bipartisan system where wealth persists across generations, while labor and social movements remain episodic and are absorbed by the system to preserve existing power.
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