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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 18:24:43
March 13 2019 18:23 GMT
#24121
That’s exactly what’s happening throughout the federal government, the EPA and the CFBP being two of the most egregious examples.

Also, the FAA used to have a lot of trouble with political issues a few decades ago, so that they’re messed up under Trump isn’t too surprising.
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
March 13 2019 18:28 GMT
#24122
On March 14 2019 01:47 farvacola wrote:
Manafort just got hit with 16 new NY indictments, so the odds are still good that he gets what he deserves.

Maybe a not so otherwise blameless life after all. Ellis's sentencing looks like such a partisan joke.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
March 13 2019 18:30 GMT
#24123
Yeah, that blameless life comment was both objectively wrong and an extremely odd thing for the judge to say. It’s hard to come up with a reason why he’d say it aside from improper personal bias.

"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 18:34:21
March 13 2019 18:34 GMT
#24124
however i dont think ellis is dirty, just an asshole
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 18:41:01
March 13 2019 18:39 GMT
#24125
Plenty of judges are assholes (most good ones are, to some extent), but only a select few are assholes that act on improper motivations (or are brazen enough to do so in a publicly identifiable way, I should say). There’s no doubt that Ellis isn’t “dirty,” but he said stuff and conducted the trial in ways many judges do their utmost to avoid.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 18:42:28
March 13 2019 18:39 GMT
#24126
Remember, Trump wanted his personal pilot to be the FAA head, that didn't work out, and since then there's nobody appointed to the position after Obama's appointee left more than a year ago. The top of FAA are all 'acting'

https://www.faa.gov/about/key_officials/
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 13 2019 18:40 GMT
#24127
He has been a critic of the sentencing guidelines for his entire career, from all reports. But this is a weird hill to make that stand on , IMO.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
March 13 2019 19:24 GMT
#24128
Looks like the pressure on the admin\FAA was too great. Trump just grounded the whole 737 Max fleet (something he was in favor of all along I believe). Right move considering the multiple reports of the plane nose diving unexpectedly.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
March 13 2019 19:32 GMT
#24129
On March 14 2019 03:14 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
It's actually pretty damn weird that the FAA hasn't grounded the Boeing 737 max 8. Normally the FAA are among the most safety conscious of all aviation authorities, but in this case they are going against the precaution of every other aviation authority. Shouldn't they completely independent from politics anyways?

Happened in Canada too. It's not a surprise though since both our major airlines Air Canada and Westjet use the Max 8.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 20:05:41
March 13 2019 20:04 GMT
#24130
Nunes is saying that, sometime in the next few weeks, some members of Congress will be making criminal referrals to the DOJ arising from stuff that surfaced in the Russia collusion Congressional hearings:

Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., gave the first hint Tuesday evening about when he plans to make criminal referrals as part of an investigation into alleged political bias in the FBI and Justice Department.

During a Fox News interview, host Laura Ingraham asked Nunes, the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, to let her viewers know when they can expect the criminal referrals to happen.

"I would guess sometime in the next two, three, four weeks," he replied. Nunes also said he'd like to see what is in special counsel Robert Mueller's report for his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible collusion between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin.

The timing of that inquiry's completion is still an open question. Recent reports suggested the probe would soon wrap up, but three U.S. officials told Reuters Mueller’s team has funding until the end of September, indicating that the inquiry could last for several more months.

Nunes has teased the onset of criminal referrals to the Justice Department for two months now, but has not divulged any names.

In February he said the GOP minority in the House Intelligence Committee offered up the names of roughly a dozen people they want to subpoena as the Democrats revitalize the panel's Russia investigation, although he said it was doubtful the Democratic majority would cooperate. Instead, Nunes is looking to William Barr, who on Feb. 14 became attorney general, to make headway towards completing an effort begun last year by a joint GOP-led task force comprising the Judiciary Committee and the Oversight Committee. "Look, we need the new attorney general to get in there, and then we will be making criminal referrals on many people who lied to Congress and many other bad things," Nunes said. Key to this effort, which has been bolstered by intelligence panel Republicans, is investigators looking over roughly 15 transcripts of interviews conducted by the task force last year.

On Tuesday, Nunes was also prompted to react to the newly revealed private testimony by former FBI lawyer Lisa Page and to the Democrats seemingly turning away from their collusion theories about President Trump in favor of investigating Trump's finances

"I want to give your viewers and use some hope," Nunes said. "There are people here in Washington every day going brick by brick trying to bust down through this wall. Look, we've been doing this for two years. The House Intelligence Committee Republicans, everything we've done is now being proven to be true. Everything the Democrats have done and said in the reports and memos that have put out have proven to be false. You have them now changing their tactics from where going to go down the impeachment road to now something else. So we continue to work up at the House Intelligence Committee, we will be making several criminal referrals and we hope that the Justice Department will take these up."

Nunes also reminded Ingraham's viewers about how depositions by Trump dossier author Christopher Steele and David Kramer, a longtime associate of John McCain and former State Department official, in a lawsuit brought against BuzzFeed by a Russian Internet entrepreneur will be made public as soon as March 14.


Source.

From my point of view, I'm not interested in Congressional referrals, and I'm even less interested in perjury charges. Anything less than criminal conspiracy charges concerning the defrauding of the FISA court or abuse of other intelligence services (or some comparable charge) will be an utter disappointment. Simply put, the DOJ needs to get in the game. My prediction when Barr got appointed was that we would know within 90 days of his appointment where all of this was going and whether he was simply going to sweep it under the rug. We're on track for knowing within that time frame.

In terms of who might be charged, and aside from easy perjury-related (or lying to the feds) targets at the FBI/DOJ (Comey, McCabe, Baker and potentially some combination of Bruce Ohr, Page, and Strozk), I'll be watching for Glenn Simpson and the people within a degree of separation or two of Fusion GPS -- basically the people responsible for developing the Steele Dossier and disseminating it throughout the law enforcement and intelligence communities. In interviews, Nunes has been hinting that Steele was not, in fact, the true author of the dossier, and that his name was put on it just to give it credibility given his CI history. Some journalists/commentators who have been following this closely have speculated as such for some time now, pointing the finger variously at Nellie Ohr and Glenn Simpson. It certainly is clear enough that Nellie Ohr (who was employed by Fusion DPS) was passing information to the FBI/DOJ through Bruce Ohr, and we also know that she had contractor access to the NSA database at the time, which raises a ton of disturbing questions.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21685 Posts
March 13 2019 20:10 GMT
#24131
Nunes.
The guy from the Nunes Memo?
Sorry if I don't take anything he says seriously after that piece of "selective quoting".
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 13 2019 20:14 GMT
#24132
On March 14 2019 05:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Nunes.
The guy from the Nunes Memo?
Sorry if I don't take anything he says seriously after that piece of "selective quoting".

Like I said previously, Nunes has been proven correct by the information that has been released. Schiff, on the other hand, is looking like a fraud at best.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7889 Posts
March 13 2019 21:06 GMT
#24133
On March 14 2019 03:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Remember, Trump wanted his personal pilot to be the FAA head, that didn't work out, and since then there's nobody appointed to the position after Obama's appointee left more than a year ago. The top of FAA are all 'acting'

https://www.faa.gov/about/key_officials/

I had no idea... this is completely insane...
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 13 2019 21:14 GMT
#24134
On March 14 2019 05:14 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 05:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Nunes.
The guy from the Nunes Memo?
Sorry if I don't take anything he says seriously after that piece of "selective quoting".

Like I said previously, Nunes has been proven correct by the information that has been released. Schiff, on the other hand, is looking like a fraud at best.

Pretty sure this is the other way around. But the eye of the beholder and all that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 13 2019 21:20 GMT
#24135
On March 14 2019 06:14 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 05:14 xDaunt wrote:
On March 14 2019 05:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Nunes.
The guy from the Nunes Memo?
Sorry if I don't take anything he says seriously after that piece of "selective quoting".

Like I said previously, Nunes has been proven correct by the information that has been released. Schiff, on the other hand, is looking like a fraud at best.

Pretty sure this is the other way around. But the eye of the beholder and all that.

We don't even have to get into the details to see that Schiff is a fraud. Just look at the case globally. Schiff has been loudly beating the drum of "there is tons of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians" for years, yet the entire collusion narrative has been rapidly falling apart over the past few months due to 1) a complete absence of charges brought concerning Trump/Russia collusion, and 2) testimony and other evidence being leaked showing that there never was any real evidence of Trump/Russia collusion. All of this should make Democrats wonder why Schiff has been gaslighting them all of this time.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 13 2019 21:21 GMT
#24136
We don’t even need details to see he is a fraud? So I don’t need details to know you are full of shit?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
March 13 2019 21:22 GMT
#24137
On March 14 2019 06:06 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 03:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Remember, Trump wanted his personal pilot to be the FAA head, that didn't work out, and since then there's nobody appointed to the position after Obama's appointee left more than a year ago. The top of FAA are all 'acting'

https://www.faa.gov/about/key_officials/

I had no idea... this is completely insane...

And just remember, this is the same guy that tried to take credit for flight safety earlier in his term despite the fact he had nothing to do with it and the FAA were not happy.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44328 Posts
March 13 2019 21:25 GMT
#24138
On March 14 2019 06:20 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 06:14 Plansix wrote:
On March 14 2019 05:14 xDaunt wrote:
On March 14 2019 05:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Nunes.
The guy from the Nunes Memo?
Sorry if I don't take anything he says seriously after that piece of "selective quoting".

Like I said previously, Nunes has been proven correct by the information that has been released. Schiff, on the other hand, is looking like a fraud at best.

Pretty sure this is the other way around. But the eye of the beholder and all that.

We don't even have to get into the details to see that Schiff is a fraud. Just look at the case globally. Schiff has been loudly beating the drum of "there is tons of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians" for years, yet the entire collusion narrative has been rapidly falling apart over the past few months due to 1) a complete absence of charges brought concerning Trump/Russia collusion, and 2) testimony and other evidence being leaked showing that there never was any real evidence of Trump/Russia collusion. All of this should make Democrats wonder why Schiff has been gaslighting them all of this time.


So if you ignore the fact that the Nunes Memo was absolute nonsense and ignore all the indictments and confessions and other evidences of collusion, then Nunes could still be perceived as trustworthy and there would be no reason to believe that collusion occurred? I mean, that's technically true, tautologically, sure.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
March 13 2019 21:26 GMT
#24139
On March 14 2019 06:20 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 06:14 Plansix wrote:
On March 14 2019 05:14 xDaunt wrote:
On March 14 2019 05:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Nunes.
The guy from the Nunes Memo?
Sorry if I don't take anything he says seriously after that piece of "selective quoting".

Like I said previously, Nunes has been proven correct by the information that has been released. Schiff, on the other hand, is looking like a fraud at best.

Pretty sure this is the other way around. But the eye of the beholder and all that.

We don't even have to get into the details to see that Schiff is a fraud. Just look at the case globally. Schiff has been loudly beating the drum of "there is tons of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians" for years, yet the entire collusion narrative has been rapidly falling apart over the past few months due to 1) a complete absence of charges brought concerning Trump/Russia collusion, and 2) testimony and other evidence being leaked showing that there never was any real evidence of Trump/Russia collusion. All of this should make Democrats wonder why Schiff has been gaslighting them all of this time.

isn't the trump tower meeting evidence of collusion?
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 13 2019 21:31 GMT
#24140
On March 14 2019 06:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 06:20 xDaunt wrote:
On March 14 2019 06:14 Plansix wrote:
On March 14 2019 05:14 xDaunt wrote:
On March 14 2019 05:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Nunes.
The guy from the Nunes Memo?
Sorry if I don't take anything he says seriously after that piece of "selective quoting".

Like I said previously, Nunes has been proven correct by the information that has been released. Schiff, on the other hand, is looking like a fraud at best.

Pretty sure this is the other way around. But the eye of the beholder and all that.

We don't even have to get into the details to see that Schiff is a fraud. Just look at the case globally. Schiff has been loudly beating the drum of "there is tons of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians" for years, yet the entire collusion narrative has been rapidly falling apart over the past few months due to 1) a complete absence of charges brought concerning Trump/Russia collusion, and 2) testimony and other evidence being leaked showing that there never was any real evidence of Trump/Russia collusion. All of this should make Democrats wonder why Schiff has been gaslighting them all of this time.


So if you ignore the fact that the Nunes Memo was absolute nonsense and ignore all the indictments and confessions and other evidences of collusion, then Nunes could still be perceived as trustworthy and there would be no reason to believe that collusion occurred? I mean, that's technically true, tautologically, sure.

Like I said before, the Nunes memo has been vindicated. The released FISA application supported everything that Nunes said. You can review a paragraph by paragraph comparison here.
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