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Gorsameth
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On March 13 2019 08:12 xDaunt wrote: And like with Hillary we're talking about intent.Another gem from Page's testimony (D2, p. 108) -- She lets slip that obstruction of justice charges against Trump were not contemplated or discussed before Comey's termination. This likely means that the only predicate for an obstruction charge was Comey's termination, yet there's no evidence that the termination did anything to impact the investigation. In fact, my recollection from the other transcripts/leaks is that the testimony has all been that the investigations were not impeded. Even McCabe conceded as such to Rubio back in 2017. And I do believe there is actual video of Trump saying he fired Comey to make the Russia thing go away. You don't need to be successful to do something wrong. You just need to try. | ||
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NewSunshine
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On March 13 2019 08:25 Plansix wrote: Success is not a prog of obstruction of justice. One can completely fail to derail an investigation and still be charged with trying to do so. It's odd that, even more so than wallpaper paste and Marvel movie scores, this manages to be the most forgettable thing known to man. Unless there's a "no harm, no foul" clause in federal law that I never heard of. | ||
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Excludos
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On March 13 2019 11:24 xDaunt wrote: That there was no impact upon the investigation from the Comey firing or other interference with the investigation matters here because Trump, as the chief executive, had every right to fire Comey. Intent is important here. Just like how you have the right to fire a bad employee, you don't have the right to fire him "cuz he's black". Likewise Trump had the right to fire Comey for any legit reason, but chose, on record, to fire him to stop the investigation. This is not legal, and Trump did not have "every right" to do this. It's hard to prove intent, but luckily Trump is dumb enough to say anything that comes to his mind so this case is really clear cut | ||
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Federal officials have charged dozens of well-heeled parents, including actresses Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin, in what the Justice Department says was a multimillion-dollar scheme to cheat college admissions standards. The parents allegedly paid a consultant who then fabricated academic and athletic credentials and arranged bribes to help get their children into prestigious universities. "We're talking about deception and fraud — fake test scores, fake credentials, fake photographs, bribed college officials," Andrew Lelling, U.S. attorney for the District of Massachusetts, said at a news conference Tuesday in Boston. https://n.pr/2Crj84f］source[/url] | ||
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P6 I applied to UNL in like October of '04 and was accepted almost immediately. And I got like 23-26 on the ACT. Didn't play sports senior year. Probably could have applied to some prestigious school back then like Cornell and got in. Being a minority used to have advantages. | ||
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ticklishmusic
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On March 13 2019 21:54 farvacola wrote: I’m reveling in what this says about the kids involved, though as has already been said many times over since the story hit, everyone thought this pay for play garbage was basically allowed lol If the amount of the money involved is small it's a bribe and therefore illegal. If it's big enough to get the person's name on the wing of the new chem building, then it's called a donation.  I may have posted this story years ago in an old version of the USPOL thread, but I knew a girl from middle/ high school who came from old money. Her parents (both Yale alumni) "donated" some amount to Yale in the hopes of their daughter getting in and were told in some fashion that their donation wasn't gonna be enough. So they upped it, and she did get in. Then she dropped out sophomore year to become a travel blogger, so money well spent I guess. On March 13 2019 22:24 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Agreed FC. I don't know if the kids were forced to attempt to apply to these schools, suffer from low-ambition, or really are stupid academically. Need to do a study on this. P6 I applied to UNL in like October of '04 and was accepted almost immediately. And I got like 23-26 on the ACT. Didn't play sports senior year. Probably could have applied to some prestigious school back then like Cornell and got in. Being a minority used to have advantages. I think you went through apps a little bit before the college admissions process went from selective to outright insanity. | ||
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Gorsameth
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"I'm rich/famous my child is going to <insert elite school> or the country club is going to make fun of me". | ||
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Excludos
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On March 13 2019 23:20 Gorsameth wrote: I imagine a lot of it is a prestige/ego thing. And not for the child but for the parent. "I'm rich/famous my child is going to <insert elite school> or the country club is going to make fun of me". Absolutely. It doesn't stop the children from using it as the highest horse to look down on others when they get older tho. "Oh, you didn't go to <prestigious school>? What a peasant!". It's all about status. They don't need nor deserve to go there. | ||
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On March 13 2019 21:54 farvacola wrote: I’m reveling in what this says about the kids involved, though as has already been said many times over since the story hit, everyone thought this pay for play garbage was basically allowed lol haha yeah, count me as one of these. I'm not surprised at all to find rich people paying for their kids to get accepted to colleges they're not academically qualified for, I'm surprised to find that it wasn't actually legal, with how commonplace it seemingly has been. | ||
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