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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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KwarK
United States42656 Posts
On January 09 2019 06:04 IyMoon wrote: you guys don't really understand. There are elements of our nation that really don't want a federal gov and those elements somehow got people into the federal government We have lots of Euroskeptics in the EU Parliament. | ||
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KwarK
United States42656 Posts
On January 09 2019 08:50 ticklishmusic wrote: for regular people, adobe acrobat lets you redact stuff very easily and is bulletproof. it completely scrubs the text from the document and replaces it with |||||||||||. i assume manafort hired some pretty top tier lawyers and is paying them some exorbitant hourly rate. they really should know how to use their fancy redlining software properly. did they like, try to highlight in black or something? The more the person bills the less computer literate they are. If you want computer stuff done you get the intern. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
That is why physical redaction is so much better, imo. Just use a sharpie and scan a PDF of the redacted version. You gotta try hard to screw that up. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
Erdogan rebuffed a meeting in Ankara on Tuesday with National Security Adviser John Bolton, then took to live television instead to insult him for a lack of perspective. The lira sank as investors recalibrated their views on a rapprochement between the two nations, which run the largest armies in NATO and have long been at odds on how to handle Syria. The impasse highlights how Trump’s hasty announcement of a U.S. exit from the war-torn country is causing confusion and generating blowback from allies and adversaries alike. Erdogan has been massing Turkish troops on the Syrian border for weeks, preparing for an invasion to eradicate Kurdish forces that the U.S. has vowed to protect. Erdogan echoed that sentiment in remarks he made to parliament after putting Bolton on hold for a meeting that ultimately didn’t happen. Before arriving in Ankara, Bolton had made clear that he was going to warn Turkey, and had drawn Turkish ire for using the general term “Kurds" in referring to the YPG. Turkey says it has no issue with the Kurds as an ethnic group, but it views the YPG as the Syrian extension of a separatist group in Turkey, the PKK, which the U.S. also classifies as a terrorist organization. “Although we made a clear agreement with U.S. President Trump, different voices are emerging from different parts of the administration,” Erdogan said as Bolton prepared to leave after meeting other Turkish officials. “Trump’s remarks continue to be the main point of reference for us.” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-08/trump-shift-on-syria-leaves-bolton-to-get-turkey-to-play-along | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21668 Posts
“Although we made a clear agreement with U.S. President Trump, different voices are emerging from different parts of the administration,” Erdogan said as Bolton prepared to leave after meeting other Turkish officials. “Trump’s remarks continue to be the main point of reference for us.” Translation: "we told Trump to withdraw and he said yes, and now other people have talked to him and he says no, please stop talking to Trump so we can tell him what to do". | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On January 10 2019 01:39 plasmidghost wrote: So Rosenstein's leaving the Justice Department. Is that good or bad for the Mueller investigation? It seems to me that there must be some serious beliefs that the investigation is either nearly done or at a point now that it can't be stopped Well he is being replaced, so it is not like this means anything new for the Mueller probe. He is only leaving once his replacement is seated | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On January 10 2019 01:39 plasmidghost wrote: So Rosenstein's leaving the Justice Department. Is that good or bad for the Mueller investigation? It seems to me that there must be some serious beliefs that the investigation is either nearly done or at a point now that it can't be stopped Several ex DOJ officials and former AGs, Republican and Democrat, have said it is normal and people shouldn’t be alarmed. If he felt the investigation was at risk, he would likely push to stay on. I think it is a sign that the train has left the station on the Meuller investigation and there is no way to stop it at this point. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21668 Posts
On January 10 2019 01:44 Plansix wrote: Could be he now trusts the Democrats in the House to step in if something happens?Several ex DOJ officials and former AGs, Republican and Democrat, have said it is normal and people shouldn’t be alarmed. If he felt the investigation was at risk, he would likely push to stay on. I think it is a sign that the train has left the station on the Meuller investigation and there is no way to stop it at this point. | ||
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Wulfey_LA
932 Posts
On January 10 2019 02:24 Gorsameth wrote: Could be he now trusts the Democrats in the House to step in if something happens? The idea is that Rod would stay on until either he thought the Mueller investigation was over or safe. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
A ex GOP House member likened the congressional GOP members to the Black Knight from Monty python. They are waiting for public opinion to turn, but it never will. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On January 10 2019 03:27 Plansix wrote: The bailouts checks being given to soy bean farmers hurt by Trumps trade war are not being cut because Trump shut down the department that cuts them. If the man had assembled even a slightly capable administration, they would have realized this and warned him. A ex GOP House member likened the congressional GOP members to the Black Knight from Monty python. They are waiting for public opinion to turn, but it never will. https://twitter.com/davidgura/status/1083065675533504514 He could have been warned and didn't care. I mean, the advice coming out of the White House was for federal workers to go into indentured servitude to their landlords as a solution for their being unable to pay the rent. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15687 Posts
On January 10 2019 01:44 Plansix wrote: Several ex DOJ officials and former AGs, Republican and Democrat, have said it is normal and people shouldn’t be alarmed. If he felt the investigation was at risk, he would likely push to stay on. I think it is a sign that the train has left the station on the Meuller investigation and there is no way to stop it at this point. That is my impression as well. My impression is: 1. NSA/CIA/FBI gets some downright fucking damning intercepts directly linking Manafort/Cohen/Flynn to Russia 2. Because this is essentially going to take down the president, an extremely far-reaching, giant investigation is necessary because of societal dynamics involving politics. Conspiracy theories, tribalism and all sorts of other things would HUGELY get in the way of accusing the president of treason. So the Mueller probe gets started. 3. Trump and his team knew if they could prevent an extremely thorough analysis being done, it would be something they could somewhat deny or at least say you can't trust the CIA or something 4. Eventually, Mueller and his team had so much damning information that even cletus and his sister/wife will be convinced 5. Now it is just a matter of putting it all together 6. Rosenstein did his job and can finally take a moment to relax. And all of that is why Trump and his team have been playing a media/social game from day 1. They knew all they could do is either prevent the investigation or brain wash enough people into skepticism of the intelligence community, starting with the FBI. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
This is what happens when a child is allowed to hold the US government hostage over his political toy. Dont expect this to end soon. I see Trump declaring a national emergency before he caves on this. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
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Reuters/Ipsos poll published Tuesday found only about 4 in 10 Americans support the idea of building additional barriers along the border, and support has fallen since 2015. The same poll found 51 percent of Americans say the president "deserves most of the blame" for the government shutdown — an increase of 4 percentage points since a poll taken just before Christmas. Among Republicans, however, support for the wall is much stronger, with 77 percent approving and 54 percent supporting the shutdown as a means to that end. Via NPR. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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