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On July 23 2016 10:12 plasmidghost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:09 m4ini wrote:By all means let us steer of this retarded discussion but I want to recognize your severe contribution to the factor of its retardness.
Because i corrected your use of "xenophobia"? After which you then go ahead and tell me that it's not fair to call countries "xenophobic" after you literally give the definition of a xenophobic country? I can live with that. Wow, you really give constructive feedback, thanks, I never thought of it that way
Constructive feedback to what? The "suggestion" that we screen 80 million people a year in a country with open borders? It's dumb. Like, there's nothing to say other than it's a dumb suggestion. Unrealistic on top, and pointless right after, considering that you'd need to do it constantly, since not every mental illness gets A: spotted in the first session, and B: not every mental illness develops from child age. And after all this, you realize that the germanwings pilot who WAS in therapy for depression still killed dozens of people when he suicided. And yes, it's retarded that he was allowed to pilot that plane. But! He could've also chosen something that happens occasionally in the US: suicide by a police bullet. His plan was to go out with a bang. Close the borders then, free immigration isn't a right
Bro, they are in the EU. You just ask New England to close down the boarders to the rest of the US.
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On July 23 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:12 plasmidghost wrote:On July 23 2016 10:09 m4ini wrote:By all means let us steer of this retarded discussion but I want to recognize your severe contribution to the factor of its retardness.
Because i corrected your use of "xenophobia"? After which you then go ahead and tell me that it's not fair to call countries "xenophobic" after you literally give the definition of a xenophobic country? I can live with that. Wow, you really give constructive feedback, thanks, I never thought of it that way
Constructive feedback to what? The "suggestion" that we screen 80 million people a year in a country with open borders? It's dumb. Like, there's nothing to say other than it's a dumb suggestion. Unrealistic on top, and pointless right after, considering that you'd need to do it constantly, since not every mental illness gets A: spotted in the first session, and B: not every mental illness develops from child age. And after all this, you realize that the germanwings pilot who WAS in therapy for depression still killed dozens of people when he suicided. And yes, it's retarded that he was allowed to pilot that plane. But! He could've also chosen something that happens occasionally in the US: suicide by a police bullet. His plan was to go out with a bang. Close the borders then, free immigration isn't a right Bro, they are in the EU. You just ask New England to close down the boarders to the rest of the US.
US have federal state, EU is a fucked up idea. Without a federal state, mobility of labor and capital creates too much problem. Like the richest countries attracting the most well educated, and thus proftting from the education services of the poorest countries.
Inverse redistribution is the EU's scheme.
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On July 23 2016 10:07 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:02 Dan HH wrote:On July 23 2016 09:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 23 2016 09:48 Vin{MBL} wrote:On July 23 2016 09:45 plasmidghost wrote:On July 23 2016 09:36 NukeD wrote:On July 23 2016 09:30 m4ini wrote:On July 23 2016 09:27 NukeD wrote:On July 23 2016 09:21 m4ini wrote:On July 23 2016 09:19 NukeD wrote:
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Xenophobia can be a small dose. The hint is real life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhobiaI assume you don't even know what a phobia is, and why you can't have "a small dose of phobia". I also assume you like to look past what the person wants to say rather than what the term used officially describes. Its very obvious what i want to say and I am sure you know what it is. Anyway, I dont need to open that link to know what phobia is and what you want to say but, i dont care. You've taken this conversation in a very poor direction with your witty remarks. It's not really witty if you say "a little bit of xenophobia is fine". If you meant something else, why not simply say so rather than going to a statement that quite literally doesn't make sense? If you meant "we should have a healthy amount of caution towards islamists", sure. I agree. Xenophobia has nothing to do with that though. Pretty much the same with the topic in the first place, considering that there's ZERO hint that there's an islamic background other than "the dude was brown though". edit: quite annoying that one can't actually understand the journalists -.- Yes well what I want to say is, I support any countries wish to stay a homogenous nation. I think thats a legitimate concern that should be respected and not deemed as xenophobic. For instance, if Israel said they will limit non jewish immigration to less than 1% for wanting to stay a country of jews, I'd say that is their right and I would respect that. If Japan said they will not accept any white, black, hispanic or other immigrants above the threshold of lets say 5% for fearing of not remaining a homogenous country of Japanese people I would also recognize that as a legitimate concern and would approve of that. I don't think a country should be deemed xenophobic for wantig to preserve its national identity. I fully support this, I wish more people would see that a homogeneous society almost always is a better society The problem with this is that if you limit immigration, population growth slows dramatically and the entire economy stagnates (see: Japan for the last 20 years). That's a rather shallow analysis. Firstly, it's not like this problem is unsolvable. Second, if you want to talk immigration, look at labour force participation. Bringing in immigrants for economic reasons is like taking out a 20% annual interest loan, and spirals into an endless cycle once you realize that then the immigrants will want to bring in their older families and not reproduce as quickly either. Even economically a very short term focused plan. Labour force participation is not low for immigrants in general, only for refugees. As for the 2nd part of your comment, it's not something I looked up so I can only speak for my country, birth rate of Romanians abroad (most of which are in Italy, Spain, UK & Germany) is 30% higher than of those in Romania. That's because Romanian abroad are younger on average than Romanian who stays in Romania, for obvious reasons. That was not his point, his point wa that you can still push forward GDP and labor force by increase participation in the native population.
Of course, but his point was also that 'immigrants will want to bring in their older families and not reproduce as quickly either' which is not really the case, with our expats at least. Another factor worth mentioning is that infant mortality rate is much higher in Romania than in those countries
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On July 23 2016 10:12 plasmidghost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:09 m4ini wrote:By all means let us steer of this retarded discussion but I want to recognize your severe contribution to the factor of its retardness.
Because i corrected your use of "xenophobia"? After which you then go ahead and tell me that it's not fair to call countries "xenophobic" after you literally give the definition of a xenophobic country? I can live with that. Wow, you really give constructive feedback, thanks, I never thought of it that way
Constructive feedback to what? The "suggestion" that we screen 80 million people a year in a country with open borders? It's dumb. Like, there's nothing to say other than it's a dumb suggestion. Unrealistic on top, and pointless right after, considering that you'd need to do it constantly, since not every mental illness gets A: spotted in the first session, and B: not every mental illness develops from child age. And after all this, you realize that the germanwings pilot who WAS in therapy for depression still killed dozens of people when he suicided. And yes, it's retarded that he was allowed to pilot that plane. But! He could've also chosen something that happens occasionally in the US: suicide by a police bullet. His plan was to go out with a bang. Close the borders then, free immigration isn't a right
It is if you want to maintain peace/trade in Europe
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On July 23 2016 10:15 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 10:12 plasmidghost wrote:On July 23 2016 10:09 m4ini wrote:By all means let us steer of this retarded discussion but I want to recognize your severe contribution to the factor of its retardness.
Because i corrected your use of "xenophobia"? After which you then go ahead and tell me that it's not fair to call countries "xenophobic" after you literally give the definition of a xenophobic country? I can live with that. Wow, you really give constructive feedback, thanks, I never thought of it that way
Constructive feedback to what? The "suggestion" that we screen 80 million people a year in a country with open borders? It's dumb. Like, there's nothing to say other than it's a dumb suggestion. Unrealistic on top, and pointless right after, considering that you'd need to do it constantly, since not every mental illness gets A: spotted in the first session, and B: not every mental illness develops from child age. And after all this, you realize that the germanwings pilot who WAS in therapy for depression still killed dozens of people when he suicided. And yes, it's retarded that he was allowed to pilot that plane. But! He could've also chosen something that happens occasionally in the US: suicide by a police bullet. His plan was to go out with a bang. Close the borders then, free immigration isn't a right Bro, they are in the EU. You just ask New England to close down the boarders to the rest of the US. US have federal state, EU is a fucked up idea. Without a federal state, mobility of labor and capital creates too much problem.
I agree that is one of the fundamental problems with the EU. A federal state that resolve some of these problems, especially was run via voter representation rather than appointment.
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On July 23 2016 10:15 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 10:12 plasmidghost wrote:On July 23 2016 10:09 m4ini wrote:By all means let us steer of this retarded discussion but I want to recognize your severe contribution to the factor of its retardness.
Because i corrected your use of "xenophobia"? After which you then go ahead and tell me that it's not fair to call countries "xenophobic" after you literally give the definition of a xenophobic country? I can live with that. Wow, you really give constructive feedback, thanks, I never thought of it that way
Constructive feedback to what? The "suggestion" that we screen 80 million people a year in a country with open borders? It's dumb. Like, there's nothing to say other than it's a dumb suggestion. Unrealistic on top, and pointless right after, considering that you'd need to do it constantly, since not every mental illness gets A: spotted in the first session, and B: not every mental illness develops from child age. And after all this, you realize that the germanwings pilot who WAS in therapy for depression still killed dozens of people when he suicided. And yes, it's retarded that he was allowed to pilot that plane. But! He could've also chosen something that happens occasionally in the US: suicide by a police bullet. His plan was to go out with a bang. Close the borders then, free immigration isn't a right Bro, they are in the EU. You just ask New England to close down the boarders to the rest of the US. US have federal state, EU is a fucked up idea. Without a federal state, mobility of labor and capital creates too much problem. Like the richest countries attracting the most well educated, and thus proftting from the education services of the poorest countries.
We all know you hate EUs guts. That doesn't change what Plansix said.
Apart from the obvious fact that even IF we closed our borders, how does that magically make screening of an entire population annually feasable?
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German-Iranian. This means should this actually be an Islamist terrorattack that it most probably wasn't done by ISIS right?
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On July 23 2016 10:17 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:15 WhiteDog wrote:On July 23 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 10:12 plasmidghost wrote:On July 23 2016 10:09 m4ini wrote:By all means let us steer of this retarded discussion but I want to recognize your severe contribution to the factor of its retardness.
Because i corrected your use of "xenophobia"? After which you then go ahead and tell me that it's not fair to call countries "xenophobic" after you literally give the definition of a xenophobic country? I can live with that. Wow, you really give constructive feedback, thanks, I never thought of it that way
Constructive feedback to what? The "suggestion" that we screen 80 million people a year in a country with open borders? It's dumb. Like, there's nothing to say other than it's a dumb suggestion. Unrealistic on top, and pointless right after, considering that you'd need to do it constantly, since not every mental illness gets A: spotted in the first session, and B: not every mental illness develops from child age. And after all this, you realize that the germanwings pilot who WAS in therapy for depression still killed dozens of people when he suicided. And yes, it's retarded that he was allowed to pilot that plane. But! He could've also chosen something that happens occasionally in the US: suicide by a police bullet. His plan was to go out with a bang. Close the borders then, free immigration isn't a right Bro, they are in the EU. You just ask New England to close down the boarders to the rest of the US. US have federal state, EU is a fucked up idea. Without a federal state, mobility of labor and capital creates too much problem. Like the richest countries attracting the most well educated, and thus proftting from the education services of the poorest countries. We all know you hate EUs guts. That doesn't change what Plansix said. Apart from the obvious fact that even IF we closed our borders, how does that magically make screening of an entire population annually feasable?
Like I said, it would be a long, long time before that would ever work
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On July 23 2016 10:17 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:15 WhiteDog wrote:On July 23 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 10:12 plasmidghost wrote:On July 23 2016 10:09 m4ini wrote:By all means let us steer of this retarded discussion but I want to recognize your severe contribution to the factor of its retardness.
Because i corrected your use of "xenophobia"? After which you then go ahead and tell me that it's not fair to call countries "xenophobic" after you literally give the definition of a xenophobic country? I can live with that. Wow, you really give constructive feedback, thanks, I never thought of it that way
Constructive feedback to what? The "suggestion" that we screen 80 million people a year in a country with open borders? It's dumb. Like, there's nothing to say other than it's a dumb suggestion. Unrealistic on top, and pointless right after, considering that you'd need to do it constantly, since not every mental illness gets A: spotted in the first session, and B: not every mental illness develops from child age. And after all this, you realize that the germanwings pilot who WAS in therapy for depression still killed dozens of people when he suicided. And yes, it's retarded that he was allowed to pilot that plane. But! He could've also chosen something that happens occasionally in the US: suicide by a police bullet. His plan was to go out with a bang. Close the borders then, free immigration isn't a right Bro, they are in the EU. You just ask New England to close down the boarders to the rest of the US. US have federal state, EU is a fucked up idea. Without a federal state, mobility of labor and capital creates too much problem. Like the richest countries attracting the most well educated, and thus proftting from the education services of the poorest countries. We all know you hate EUs guts. That doesn't change what Plansix said. Apart from the obvious fact that even IF we closed our borders, how does that magically make screening of an entire population annually feasable?
Closing borders is dumb, but some control should be made, or some form of compensation for the weakest countries. Anyway, intra european migration is not a problem at all, europe is a civilization, and even if we indeed have cultural differencies, overall we're pretty close. The problem is how we can grow altogether, and not destroy ourselves in a meaningless and fruitless competition that push us towards social and fiscal dumping.
I'm not sure NukeD's point is about that : he is more talking about the cultural effect of a migration coming from other areas.
And I want to clarify, I hate almost all form of governments.
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On July 23 2016 10:18 TheNewEra wrote:
German-Iranian. This means should this actually be an Islamist terrorattack that it most probably wasn't done by ISIS right?
Most of the ISIS attacks weren't actually done by ISIS members but by people "inspired" by them.
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On July 23 2016 10:18 TheNewEra wrote:
German-Iranian. This means should this actually be an Islamist terrorattack that it most probably wasn't done by ISIS right?
most likely. It's possible he was inspired by ISIS, but they themselves, most likely didn't send him to do this
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On July 23 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:12 plasmidghost wrote:On July 23 2016 10:09 m4ini wrote:By all means let us steer of this retarded discussion but I want to recognize your severe contribution to the factor of its retardness.
Because i corrected your use of "xenophobia"? After which you then go ahead and tell me that it's not fair to call countries "xenophobic" after you literally give the definition of a xenophobic country? I can live with that. Wow, you really give constructive feedback, thanks, I never thought of it that way
Constructive feedback to what? The "suggestion" that we screen 80 million people a year in a country with open borders? It's dumb. Like, there's nothing to say other than it's a dumb suggestion. Unrealistic on top, and pointless right after, considering that you'd need to do it constantly, since not every mental illness gets A: spotted in the first session, and B: not every mental illness develops from child age. And after all this, you realize that the germanwings pilot who WAS in therapy for depression still killed dozens of people when he suicided. And yes, it's retarded that he was allowed to pilot that plane. But! He could've also chosen something that happens occasionally in the US: suicide by a police bullet. His plan was to go out with a bang. Close the borders then, free immigration isn't a right Bro, they are in the EU. You just ask New England to close down the boarders to the rest of the US.
Do you want to tell me how free immigration is a problem when someone's origin is Iran? I don't think Europe has freedom of movement for Iranians. Therefore, non-EU nationals are likely subject to visa. I don't think anyone can get visa for a long time just like that.
On July 23 2016 10:23 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:18 TheNewEra wrote:
German-Iranian. This means should this actually be an Islamist terrorattack that it most probably wasn't done by ISIS right? most likely. It's possible he was inspired by ISIS, but they themselves, most likely didn't send him to do this
Doesn't Iran follow different kind of islam though?
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On July 23 2016 10:20 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:17 m4ini wrote:On July 23 2016 10:15 WhiteDog wrote:On July 23 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 10:12 plasmidghost wrote:On July 23 2016 10:09 m4ini wrote:By all means let us steer of this retarded discussion but I want to recognize your severe contribution to the factor of its retardness.
Because i corrected your use of "xenophobia"? After which you then go ahead and tell me that it's not fair to call countries "xenophobic" after you literally give the definition of a xenophobic country? I can live with that. Wow, you really give constructive feedback, thanks, I never thought of it that way
Constructive feedback to what? The "suggestion" that we screen 80 million people a year in a country with open borders? It's dumb. Like, there's nothing to say other than it's a dumb suggestion. Unrealistic on top, and pointless right after, considering that you'd need to do it constantly, since not every mental illness gets A: spotted in the first session, and B: not every mental illness develops from child age. And after all this, you realize that the germanwings pilot who WAS in therapy for depression still killed dozens of people when he suicided. And yes, it's retarded that he was allowed to pilot that plane. But! He could've also chosen something that happens occasionally in the US: suicide by a police bullet. His plan was to go out with a bang. Close the borders then, free immigration isn't a right Bro, they are in the EU. You just ask New England to close down the boarders to the rest of the US. US have federal state, EU is a fucked up idea. Without a federal state, mobility of labor and capital creates too much problem. Like the richest countries attracting the most well educated, and thus proftting from the education services of the poorest countries. We all know you hate EUs guts. That doesn't change what Plansix said. Apart from the obvious fact that even IF we closed our borders, how does that magically make screening of an entire population annually feasable? Closing borders is dumb, but some control should be made, or some form of compensation for the weakest countries. Anyway, intra european migration is not a problem at all, europe is a civilization, and even if we indeed have cultural differencies, overall we're pretty close. The problem is how we can grow altogether, and not destroy ourself in a meaningless and fruitless competition that push us towards social dumping. I'm not sure NukeD's point is about that : he is more talking about the cultural effect of a migration coming from other areas.
If you're trying to say that the european system as of now has some serious flaws: i agree. Although i wasn't talking about cultural effects in regards to muslim immigrants (because obviously, it's not "other areas", it's the middle east), but how feasable it is to screen an entire country constantly for psychopaths.
My argument was, apart from the unrealism etc, that open borders inner europe simply mean that someone from france could go on a rampage in the netherlands.
Do you want to tell me how free immigration is a problem when someone's origin is Iran? I don't think Europe has freedom of movement for Iranians. Therefore, non-EU nationals are likely subject to visa. I don't think anyone can get visa for a long time just like that.
His origin is most likely germany. And of course, freedom of movement only counts for EU citizens. Although i can't tell how hard the visa-process is in germany - i only remember some controversy in regards to homestory cup, a player had trouble with a visa or something?
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On July 23 2016 10:25 Shield wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 10:12 plasmidghost wrote:On July 23 2016 10:09 m4ini wrote:By all means let us steer of this retarded discussion but I want to recognize your severe contribution to the factor of its retardness.
Because i corrected your use of "xenophobia"? After which you then go ahead and tell me that it's not fair to call countries "xenophobic" after you literally give the definition of a xenophobic country? I can live with that. Wow, you really give constructive feedback, thanks, I never thought of it that way
Constructive feedback to what? The "suggestion" that we screen 80 million people a year in a country with open borders? It's dumb. Like, there's nothing to say other than it's a dumb suggestion. Unrealistic on top, and pointless right after, considering that you'd need to do it constantly, since not every mental illness gets A: spotted in the first session, and B: not every mental illness develops from child age. And after all this, you realize that the germanwings pilot who WAS in therapy for depression still killed dozens of people when he suicided. And yes, it's retarded that he was allowed to pilot that plane. But! He could've also chosen something that happens occasionally in the US: suicide by a police bullet. His plan was to go out with a bang. Close the borders then, free immigration isn't a right Bro, they are in the EU. You just ask New England to close down the boarders to the rest of the US. Do you want to tell me how free immigration is a problem when someone's origin is Iran? I don't think Europe has freedom of movement for Iranians. Therefore, non-EU nationals are likely subject to visa. I don't think anyone can get visa for a long time just like that.
Well his parents fucked and then had the kid in the EU.
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On July 23 2016 10:26 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:25 Shield wrote:On July 23 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 10:12 plasmidghost wrote:On July 23 2016 10:09 m4ini wrote:By all means let us steer of this retarded discussion but I want to recognize your severe contribution to the factor of its retardness.
Because i corrected your use of "xenophobia"? After which you then go ahead and tell me that it's not fair to call countries "xenophobic" after you literally give the definition of a xenophobic country? I can live with that. Wow, you really give constructive feedback, thanks, I never thought of it that way
Constructive feedback to what? The "suggestion" that we screen 80 million people a year in a country with open borders? It's dumb. Like, there's nothing to say other than it's a dumb suggestion. Unrealistic on top, and pointless right after, considering that you'd need to do it constantly, since not every mental illness gets A: spotted in the first session, and B: not every mental illness develops from child age. And after all this, you realize that the germanwings pilot who WAS in therapy for depression still killed dozens of people when he suicided. And yes, it's retarded that he was allowed to pilot that plane. But! He could've also chosen something that happens occasionally in the US: suicide by a police bullet. His plan was to go out with a bang. Close the borders then, free immigration isn't a right Bro, they are in the EU. You just ask New England to close down the boarders to the rest of the US. Do you want to tell me how free immigration is a problem when someone's origin is Iran? I don't think Europe has freedom of movement for Iranians. Therefore, non-EU nationals are likely subject to visa. I don't think anyone can get visa for a long time just like that. Well his parents fucked and then had the kid in the EU.
But his parents didn't come from an EU country. Therefore, this isn't a problem about "free immigration" (freedom of movement if you mean that).
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On July 23 2016 10:28 Shield wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:26 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 10:25 Shield wrote:On July 23 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 10:12 plasmidghost wrote:On July 23 2016 10:09 m4ini wrote:By all means let us steer of this retarded discussion but I want to recognize your severe contribution to the factor of its retardness.
Because i corrected your use of "xenophobia"? After which you then go ahead and tell me that it's not fair to call countries "xenophobic" after you literally give the definition of a xenophobic country? I can live with that. Wow, you really give constructive feedback, thanks, I never thought of it that way
Constructive feedback to what? The "suggestion" that we screen 80 million people a year in a country with open borders? It's dumb. Like, there's nothing to say other than it's a dumb suggestion. Unrealistic on top, and pointless right after, considering that you'd need to do it constantly, since not every mental illness gets A: spotted in the first session, and B: not every mental illness develops from child age. And after all this, you realize that the germanwings pilot who WAS in therapy for depression still killed dozens of people when he suicided. And yes, it's retarded that he was allowed to pilot that plane. But! He could've also chosen something that happens occasionally in the US: suicide by a police bullet. His plan was to go out with a bang. Close the borders then, free immigration isn't a right Bro, they are in the EU. You just ask New England to close down the boarders to the rest of the US. Do you want to tell me how free immigration is a problem when someone's origin is Iran? I don't think Europe has freedom of movement for Iranians. Therefore, non-EU nationals are likely subject to visa. I don't think anyone can get visa for a long time just like that. Well his parents fucked and then had the kid in the EU. But his parents didn't come from an EU country. Therefore, this isn't a problem about "free immigration" (freedom of movement if you mean that).
What?
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On July 23 2016 10:26 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:25 Shield wrote:On July 23 2016 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 10:12 plasmidghost wrote:On July 23 2016 10:09 m4ini wrote:By all means let us steer of this retarded discussion but I want to recognize your severe contribution to the factor of its retardness.
Because i corrected your use of "xenophobia"? After which you then go ahead and tell me that it's not fair to call countries "xenophobic" after you literally give the definition of a xenophobic country? I can live with that. Wow, you really give constructive feedback, thanks, I never thought of it that way
Constructive feedback to what? The "suggestion" that we screen 80 million people a year in a country with open borders? It's dumb. Like, there's nothing to say other than it's a dumb suggestion. Unrealistic on top, and pointless right after, considering that you'd need to do it constantly, since not every mental illness gets A: spotted in the first session, and B: not every mental illness develops from child age. And after all this, you realize that the germanwings pilot who WAS in therapy for depression still killed dozens of people when he suicided. And yes, it's retarded that he was allowed to pilot that plane. But! He could've also chosen something that happens occasionally in the US: suicide by a police bullet. His plan was to go out with a bang. Close the borders then, free immigration isn't a right Bro, they are in the EU. You just ask New England to close down the boarders to the rest of the US. Do you want to tell me how free immigration is a problem when someone's origin is Iran? I don't think Europe has freedom of movement for Iranians. Therefore, non-EU nationals are likely subject to visa. I don't think anyone can get visa for a long time just like that. Well his parents fucked and then had the kid in the EU.
I don't think we're talking the correct subject here.
First: if we're assuming that the rooftop-video is legit, that this guy was the shooter, then he was pretty german. Bavarians have a distinct accent (like scotsmen in english) - and he had that too. He had proper grammar, too. Didn't have the rolling "r" that you hear from kids that only speak arabic or whatever at home. He was very articulated, so lets not act like he was a rural iranian who came for the welfare or something. At least not until it's confirmed, because as it stands, i actually doubt that very much.
What? How the fuck does that work?
Parents get a visa, give birth in germany. Or, possibly, his parents already are second generation immigrants.
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On July 23 2016 10:23 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:18 TheNewEra wrote:
German-Iranian. This means should this actually be an Islamist terrorattack that it most probably wasn't done by ISIS right? most likely. It's possible he was inspired by ISIS, but they themselves, most likely didn't send him to do this
Would this be an actual possibility even though ISIS is Sunni and would love to kill most of the Iranians who are Shias?
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On July 23 2016 10:31 TheNewEra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:23 Cricketer12 wrote:On July 23 2016 10:18 TheNewEra wrote:
German-Iranian. This means should this actually be an Islamist terrorattack that it most probably wasn't done by ISIS right? most likely. It's possible he was inspired by ISIS, but they themselves, most likely didn't send him to do this Would this be an actual possibility even though ISIS is Sunni and would love to kill most of the Iranians who are Shias?
There's degree in haramness... lol Sunni, still better than kafir.
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On July 23 2016 10:31 TheNewEra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 10:23 Cricketer12 wrote:On July 23 2016 10:18 TheNewEra wrote:
German-Iranian. This means should this actually be an Islamist terrorattack that it most probably wasn't done by ISIS right? most likely. It's possible he was inspired by ISIS, but they themselves, most likely didn't send him to do this Would this be an actual possibility even though ISIS is Sunni and would love to kill most of the Iranians who are Shias?
As you say, most Iranians. There's a 1 in 10 chance he's Sunni
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