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zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
February 27 2015 15:25 GMT
#41
Green + violet. HTH.
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Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
February 27 2015 15:27 GMT
#42
For me, there are too many elements of the picture screaming "Bright lighting conditions" for my eyes to see anything other than a blue and black dress with a bit of yellowish light reflecting off the black lace and hi-iso noise

Look at the background: very bright everywhere. No indication at all that this dress is in shade.

Look at the shiny highlights on the dress and jacket: clearly there's a fairly tight, bright light source illuminating those surfaces, not a large, dim, indirect bounce-light.
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Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1693 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 15:29:34
February 27 2015 15:28 GMT
#43
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 27 2015 15:30 GMT
#44
On February 28 2015 00:23 linuxguru1 wrote:
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On February 27 2015 23:58 SKC wrote:
On February 27 2015 23:51 BallinWitStalin wrote:
How are people getting black out of this?

blue-gold for me.

The blue I can see people mistaking for white.

But I really don't get how that gold is supposed to be black.

People can see how lighting can add an yellow tint to the black dress. So even if it looks yellowish, they can see that the dress was originally black. The whole picture seems to be affected by an yellowish light.

The opposite is actually harder imo. I can't see how lighting would make a white dress this blue. Diferent shades of blue, like the XKCD pic sure, but it's always at least a light blue.


How can lighting make black appear brown/gold? Black does not reflect light rays, no matter what color the light is.

You are taking it way too literally. With poor saturation/brightness/etc levels black can look gold. If you need an example, check the OP. A black dress looks gold.
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 15:30:34
February 27 2015 15:30 GMT
#45
On February 28 2015 00:23 linuxguru1 wrote:
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On February 27 2015 23:58 SKC wrote:
On February 27 2015 23:51 BallinWitStalin wrote:
How are people getting black out of this?

blue-gold for me.

The blue I can see people mistaking for white.

But I really don't get how that gold is supposed to be black.

People can see how lighting can add an yellow tint to the black dress. So even if it looks yellowish, they can see that the dress was originally black. The whole picture seems to be affected by an yellowish light.

The opposite is actually harder imo. I can't see how lighting would make a white dress this blue. Diferent shades of blue, like the XKCD pic sure, but it's always at least a light blue.


How can lighting make black appear brown/gold? Black does not reflect light rays, no matter what color the light is.


Oh come on, really?

[image loading]

Coal would like a word with you.
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linuxguru1
Profile Joined February 2012
110 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 15:36:55
February 27 2015 15:34 GMT
#46
On February 28 2015 00:30 Umpteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 00:23 linuxguru1 wrote:
On February 27 2015 23:58 SKC wrote:
On February 27 2015 23:51 BallinWitStalin wrote:
How are people getting black out of this?

blue-gold for me.

The blue I can see people mistaking for white.

But I really don't get how that gold is supposed to be black.

People can see how lighting can add an yellow tint to the black dress. So even if it looks yellowish, they can see that the dress was originally black. The whole picture seems to be affected by an yellowish light.

The opposite is actually harder imo. I can't see how lighting would make a white dress this blue. Diferent shades of blue, like the XKCD pic sure, but it's always at least a light blue.


How can lighting make black appear brown/gold? Black does not reflect light rays, no matter what color the light is.


Oh come on, really?

[image loading]

Coal would like a word with you.


I'm not crazy, I swear Look, wikipedia agrees with me! That coal must not be absolutely black!


Black is the color of coal, ebony, and of outer space.[1] It is the darkest color, the result of the absence of or complete absorption of light. It is the opposite of white and often represents darkness in contrast with light.[2]
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black


On February 28 2015 00:30 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 00:23 linuxguru1 wrote:
On February 27 2015 23:58 SKC wrote:
On February 27 2015 23:51 BallinWitStalin wrote:
How are people getting black out of this?

blue-gold for me.

The blue I can see people mistaking for white.

But I really don't get how that gold is supposed to be black.

People can see how lighting can add an yellow tint to the black dress. So even if it looks yellowish, they can see that the dress was originally black. The whole picture seems to be affected by an yellowish light.

The opposite is actually harder imo. I can't see how lighting would make a white dress this blue. Diferent shades of blue, like the XKCD pic sure, but it's always at least a light blue.


How can lighting make black appear brown/gold? Black does not reflect light rays, no matter what color the light is.

You are taking it way too literally. With poor saturation/brightness/etc levels black can look gold. If you need an example, check the OP. A black dress looks gold.


Ah this makes sense. Thank you
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 15:49:06
February 27 2015 15:46 GMT
#47
linux: I'm not calling you crazy

There are several ways by which light can leave a surface and be seen, the ones we need to care about here being:

1. Reflection
2. Absorption and re-radiation

When we call something 'black' we generally mean that it does not re-radiate any of the light it absorbs. But it can still reflect light, and that reflected light is, almost invariably, the same colour as the lightsource. That's how a red car can reflect a blue sky:

[image loading]

A perfectly matte, perfectly black object would (barring lens flare or hi-iso noise) always look black. But lace is not perfectly matte. It doesn't re-radiate much light but it does reflect it, hence the yellowish reflections on the OP image.

At the other extreme a mirror is, technically, also black - but it's highly reflective.

Also, neon colours look so bright because the surface absorbs many different frequencies of light and then emits (nearly) all of it at one frequency.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
February 27 2015 15:52 GMT
#48
I always see blue & black

people that see otherwise are crazy
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Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
February 27 2015 16:00 GMT
#49
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
February 27 2015 16:10 GMT
#50
On February 27 2015 14:34 MarlieChurphy wrote:
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On February 27 2015 14:32 Whole wrote:
Depending on the lighting/brightness of my screen, it appears either.

snip



That was fast, What pixel is it zoomed in on thoguh?

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On February 27 2015 14:33 Shiragaku wrote:
This appeared on my newsfeed
http://www.buzzfeedsucksdicks.com/catesish/help-am-i-going-insane-its-definitely-blue#.kuZP3yW3j


Rule #1000020 on the internet. Never ever link to buzzfeed.

It is sampled on the color closest to gold and closest to white. If you average the whole picture, it says blue black
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 27 2015 16:12 GMT
#51
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

My brain honestly can't figure out how A and B are same color, considering that A is same color as every other dark cell and my brain refuses to accept that B is not light cell.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 27 2015 16:13 GMT
#52
On February 28 2015 01:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

My brain honestly can't figure out how A and B are same color, considering that A is same color as every other dark cell and my brain refuses to accept that B is not light cell.

The letters. Not the cells.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 27 2015 16:15 GMT
#53
On February 28 2015 01:13 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

My brain honestly can't figure out how A and B are same color, considering that A is same color as every other dark cell and my brain refuses to accept that B is not light cell.

The letters. Not the cells.

Now i can't understand how not-color-blind person would think that A and B are different colors.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 27 2015 16:16 GMT
#54
no, it's the cells
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2015 16:16 GMT
#55
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 27 2015 16:16 GMT
#56
Yeah, it was the cells, I was crazy
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 27 2015 16:18 GMT
#57
On February 28 2015 01:16 marvellosity wrote:
no, it's the cells

Cells!? My brain just exploded.
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JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
February 27 2015 16:19 GMT
#58
purple and brown/and or goldish
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Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 16:23:14
February 27 2015 16:22 GMT
#59
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
February 27 2015 16:24 GMT
#60
The only colours I see are lightblue+a brownish gold, no matter how many times I look away from the screen, adjust my lighting etc.
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