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Not a joke, what colors is this dress?

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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 05:31:35
February 27 2015 05:27 GMT
#1
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +

I have some theories as to why people see it differently.


Poll: What colors?

White/gold (265)
 
54%

Blue/black (174)
 
36%

other (50)
 
10%

489 total votes

Your vote: What colors?

(Vote): White/gold
(Vote): Blue/black
(Vote): other



how do I spoiler the results of a poll?
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 27 2015 05:31 GMT
#2
I see blue/gold. Could be white I guess but it's not what it looks like to me.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
February 27 2015 05:32 GMT
#3
Depending on the lighting/brightness of my screen, it appears either.

[image loading]


[image loading]
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
February 27 2015 05:33 GMT
#4
This appeared on my newsfeed
http://www.buzzfeed.com/catesish/help-am-i-going-insane-its-definitely-blue#.kuZP3yW3j
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 05:45:01
February 27 2015 05:34 GMT
#5
On February 27 2015 14:32 Whole wrote:
Depending on the lighting/brightness of my screen, it appears either.

snip



That was fast, What pixel is it zoomed in on thoguh?

On February 27 2015 14:33 Shiragaku wrote:
This appeared on my newsfeed
http://www.buzzfeedsucksdicks.com/catesish/help-am-i-going-insane-its-definitely-blue#.kuZP3yW3j


Rule #1000020 on the internet. Never ever link to buzzfeed.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 27 2015 05:35 GMT
#6
I figured if I see anything weird it's because my monitor settings were shitty.
gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
February 27 2015 05:37 GMT
#7
Whoa, this meme has suddenly flooded the internet. It looks gold and really light blue to me. But I think it depends on your monitor. But in the end it doesn't matter, since it's just a bad picture anyways, haha.
tokinho
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States785 Posts
February 27 2015 05:38 GMT
#8
"To be honest, I don't really understand the point of this thread though. ALl of this is going to change in LotV." "As far as I know, none of my clothes come from cambodia." "Do you jerk off to them?"---you are troll and troll like a troll.

Even the title is troll, you honestly just like to argue. will someone close this please>>
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
February 27 2015 05:38 GMT
#9
In what universe is that blue and black?
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
February 27 2015 05:42 GMT
#10
On February 27 2015 14:38 tokinho wrote:
"To be honest, I don't really understand the point of this thread though. ALl of this is going to change in LotV." "As far as I know, none of my clothes come from cambodia." "Do you jerk off to them?"---you are troll and troll like a troll.

Even the title is troll, you honestly just like to argue. will someone close this please>>

lol thanks for following me so closely, troll/ nice thread derail attempt tho.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
February 27 2015 05:54 GMT
#11
Well this has grown quickly...I have seen this question put forth on both a twitch stream and facebook. This is the 1st picture that I have seen of it where it looks White/Gold though. It does look like a different picture from the one I saw earlier so maybe the internet is losing its mind over this is due to multiple pictures going around + lots of trolling?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 27 2015 05:56 GMT
#12
It's white and gold at first and then when you look away and look back, it's blue and black. Not really sure how this optical illusion works...
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 05:59:24
February 27 2015 05:56 GMT
#13
Ok I looked at this 3 hours ago and it was white and gold...now its blue and black...
I even saw a picture of it was blue/gold...i dont understand
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
February 27 2015 06:00 GMT
#14
Hint: [image loading]
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Monchengladbach
Profile Joined February 2015
4 Posts
February 27 2015 06:01 GMT
#15
Golden brown and lavender light-blue?
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
February 27 2015 06:06 GMT
#16
i first saw it as white gold, but it faded quickly to the real colour of gold-brown + lavender, i guess the fluorescent lighting in my room made the difference on the first glance.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13386 Posts
February 27 2015 06:07 GMT
#17
I don't think we need a meme thread on TL. We should probably keep it to twitter and other social media
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25656 Posts
February 27 2015 13:13 GMT
#18
Have reopened, will close it if it gets too stupid
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Oshuy
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 13:19:02
February 27 2015 13:16 GMT
#19
Yeyy let's get stupid !

[image loading]

Compliments to xkcd, exactly the same as MarlieChurly's one, but with colors similar to the dress example.

Edit: the point of course is that dress color is the same on both sides, only background changes, like the tiles A and B exactly have the same colors in the first example.
Coooot
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
February 27 2015 13:21 GMT
#20
This is a lot of fun on a dual monitor set up :D
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
February 27 2015 13:29 GMT
#21
Aww it's like the Internet just learned about optical illusions. So cute!
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
February 27 2015 13:40 GMT
#22
You are late to the party. And the dress has been established to be actually be blue/black.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2015 13:45 GMT
#23
On February 27 2015 22:40 Ghostcom wrote:
You are late to the party. And the dress has been established to be actually be blue/black.

Its also an illusion. But yes, if the dress was directly in front of you it would be blue and black. Unless you're color blind.

Moral: color is subjective.
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saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
February 27 2015 14:11 GMT
#24
On February 27 2015 14:38 Ayaz2810 wrote:
In what universe is that blue and black?


Ayaz posted my thoughts word for word
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
February 27 2015 14:19 GMT
#25
Dang it this is all over the internet.

I only see blue and black and those are the actual colors when you check so I think this is a massive hoax.
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
February 27 2015 14:20 GMT
#26
This is a strange one. To me the dress itself is obviously blue and black, but I'm looking at it with a fuzz of lens flare and high-iso noise over the top.

The XKCD image does illustrate how our eyes compensate for ambient light, but it doesn't explain anything here.

Look at it carefully: the XKCD picture in which the dress looks white is in a dark blue environment, so our eyes say "That must be a very bright pale dress to appear the way it does". But the dress in the OP is in a very bright, yellow environment (like the right-hand XKCD image) - so why are people seeing it as white?
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 14:22:12
February 27 2015 14:21 GMT
#27
there's something more than contrast at work here. the reflective/hue effect of the strong background light can make you think that the colors are not from the dress.


when i first looked at the dress though it looked nothing like the rebalanced blue/black image, but after seeing that image and going back to the original it does look really blue/black. pretty weird and neat
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
February 27 2015 14:23 GMT
#28
On February 27 2015 22:16 Oshuy wrote:
Yeyy let's get stupid !

[image loading]

Compliments to xkcd, exactly the same as MarlieChurly's one, but with colors similar to the dress example.

Edit: the point of course is that dress color is the same on both sides, only background changes, like the tiles A and B exactly have the same colors in the first example.

This doesn't even help. I still see blue and black.


The reason why the checkered floor illusion works is that it's only using the intensity adjustment that's automatic in our brains. There is no hue or saturation difference.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 14:33:52
February 27 2015 14:30 GMT
#29
At first I see it as gold/white, but after reading through some comments and someone pic "analysis" that the actual color is blue/gold brown. I am NOW seeing it as blue/gold brown

Its really one of those nifty optical illusions that really depends on how your brain wants to mess with you

Look at the comments of this dress on amazon here BTW
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00SJEUCWU/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk
Oshuy
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands529 Posts
February 27 2015 14:32 GMT
#30
On February 27 2015 23:20 Umpteen wrote:
This is a strange one. To me the dress itself is obviously blue and black, but I'm looking at it with a fuzz of lens flare and high-iso noise over the top.

The XKCD image does illustrate how our eyes compensate for ambient light, but it doesn't explain anything here.

Look at it carefully: the XKCD picture in which the dress looks white is in a dark blue environment, so our eyes say "That must be a very bright pale dress to appear the way it does". But the dress in the OP is in a very bright, yellow environment (like the right-hand XKCD image) - so why are people seeing it as white?


It roughly the same thing. Depends if your brain interprets a bright lighting on the whole image (in which case the dress is in the light and blue/black) or if it interprets the dress as in the shadow against an overexposed background (say taken from inside a shop with a sunny street behind), in which case the dress registers as white.
Coooot
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
February 27 2015 14:33 GMT
#31
I still think everyone who says it's gold/white is a troll. -_-'
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
February 27 2015 14:37 GMT
#32
On February 27 2015 23:33 c0ldfusion wrote:
I still think everyone who says it's gold/white is a troll. -_-'


I can see it possible to be very light blue, but i don't see anyway that can be black. It looks gold/white to me, even looking at explanation threads and seeing loads of other editted and anotated pictures.

Maybe if someone posted a picture of the dress on a table with light above the dress, l can see blue/black
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
February 27 2015 14:49 GMT
#33
White and gold taken with a poor white balance camera.
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BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
February 27 2015 14:51 GMT
#34
How are people getting black out of this?

blue-gold for me.

The blue I can see people mistaking for white.

But I really don't get how that gold is supposed to be black.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
February 27 2015 14:55 GMT
#35
On February 27 2015 23:33 c0ldfusion wrote:
I still think everyone who says it's gold/white is a troll. -_-'

I (still) only see gold/white as real colour of this dress. This white tends to be dark white & very lightly violet because she stays at sun-shade.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 15:17:55
February 27 2015 14:58 GMT
#36
On February 27 2015 23:51 BallinWitStalin wrote:
How are people getting black out of this?

blue-gold for me.

The blue I can see people mistaking for white.

But I really don't get how that gold is supposed to be black.

People can see how lighting can add an yellow tint to the black dress. So even if it looks yellowish, they can see that the dress was originally black. The whole picture seems to be affected by an yellowish light.

The opposite is actually harder imo. I can't see how lighting would make a white dress this blue. Diferent shades of blue, like the XKCD pic sure, but it's always at least a light blue.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
February 27 2015 15:09 GMT
#37
I've never seen gold/white. I could understand people saying blue/dirty gold, but for me it's black and blue. Not to mention the real dress is actually black and blue.

Welcome to optical illusions lol
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Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 15:21:36
February 27 2015 15:18 GMT
#38
On February 27 2015 23:58 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 23:51 BallinWitStalin wrote:
How are people getting black out of this?

blue-gold for me.

The blue I can see people mistaking for white.

But I really don't get how that gold is supposed to be black.

People can see how lighting can add an yellow tint to the black dress. So even if it looks yellowish, they can see that the dress was originally black. The whole picture seems to be affect by an yellowish light.

The opposite is actually harder imo. I can't see how lighting would make a white dress this blue. Diferent shades of blue, like the XKCD pic sure, but it's always at least a light blue.

Whites are never accurate on these crappy cameras.

And even high end dslr's you often see amateur photographers completely bodge the white balance.
So this is perfectly normal really.

But yeah I guess the dress is black/blue after all.
That's some mighty bad photograph. :D
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Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
February 27 2015 15:22 GMT
#39
Can see both white and blue depending on where I look at on the picture :|
linuxguru1
Profile Joined February 2012
110 Posts
February 27 2015 15:23 GMT
#40
On February 27 2015 23:58 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 23:51 BallinWitStalin wrote:
How are people getting black out of this?

blue-gold for me.

The blue I can see people mistaking for white.

But I really don't get how that gold is supposed to be black.

People can see how lighting can add an yellow tint to the black dress. So even if it looks yellowish, they can see that the dress was originally black. The whole picture seems to be affected by an yellowish light.

The opposite is actually harder imo. I can't see how lighting would make a white dress this blue. Diferent shades of blue, like the XKCD pic sure, but it's always at least a light blue.


How can lighting make black appear brown/gold? Black does not reflect light rays, no matter what color the light is.
zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
February 27 2015 15:25 GMT
#41
Green + violet. HTH.
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Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
February 27 2015 15:27 GMT
#42
For me, there are too many elements of the picture screaming "Bright lighting conditions" for my eyes to see anything other than a blue and black dress with a bit of yellowish light reflecting off the black lace and hi-iso noise

Look at the background: very bright everywhere. No indication at all that this dress is in shade.

Look at the shiny highlights on the dress and jacket: clearly there's a fairly tight, bright light source illuminating those surfaces, not a large, dim, indirect bounce-light.
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Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 15:29:34
February 27 2015 15:28 GMT
#43
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 27 2015 15:30 GMT
#44
On February 28 2015 00:23 linuxguru1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 23:58 SKC wrote:
On February 27 2015 23:51 BallinWitStalin wrote:
How are people getting black out of this?

blue-gold for me.

The blue I can see people mistaking for white.

But I really don't get how that gold is supposed to be black.

People can see how lighting can add an yellow tint to the black dress. So even if it looks yellowish, they can see that the dress was originally black. The whole picture seems to be affected by an yellowish light.

The opposite is actually harder imo. I can't see how lighting would make a white dress this blue. Diferent shades of blue, like the XKCD pic sure, but it's always at least a light blue.


How can lighting make black appear brown/gold? Black does not reflect light rays, no matter what color the light is.

You are taking it way too literally. With poor saturation/brightness/etc levels black can look gold. If you need an example, check the OP. A black dress looks gold.
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 15:30:34
February 27 2015 15:30 GMT
#45
On February 28 2015 00:23 linuxguru1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 23:58 SKC wrote:
On February 27 2015 23:51 BallinWitStalin wrote:
How are people getting black out of this?

blue-gold for me.

The blue I can see people mistaking for white.

But I really don't get how that gold is supposed to be black.

People can see how lighting can add an yellow tint to the black dress. So even if it looks yellowish, they can see that the dress was originally black. The whole picture seems to be affected by an yellowish light.

The opposite is actually harder imo. I can't see how lighting would make a white dress this blue. Diferent shades of blue, like the XKCD pic sure, but it's always at least a light blue.


How can lighting make black appear brown/gold? Black does not reflect light rays, no matter what color the light is.


Oh come on, really?

[image loading]

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linuxguru1
Profile Joined February 2012
110 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 15:36:55
February 27 2015 15:34 GMT
#46
On February 28 2015 00:30 Umpteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 00:23 linuxguru1 wrote:
On February 27 2015 23:58 SKC wrote:
On February 27 2015 23:51 BallinWitStalin wrote:
How are people getting black out of this?

blue-gold for me.

The blue I can see people mistaking for white.

But I really don't get how that gold is supposed to be black.

People can see how lighting can add an yellow tint to the black dress. So even if it looks yellowish, they can see that the dress was originally black. The whole picture seems to be affected by an yellowish light.

The opposite is actually harder imo. I can't see how lighting would make a white dress this blue. Diferent shades of blue, like the XKCD pic sure, but it's always at least a light blue.


How can lighting make black appear brown/gold? Black does not reflect light rays, no matter what color the light is.


Oh come on, really?

[image loading]

Coal would like a word with you.


I'm not crazy, I swear Look, wikipedia agrees with me! That coal must not be absolutely black!


Black is the color of coal, ebony, and of outer space.[1] It is the darkest color, the result of the absence of or complete absorption of light. It is the opposite of white and often represents darkness in contrast with light.[2]
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black


On February 28 2015 00:30 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 00:23 linuxguru1 wrote:
On February 27 2015 23:58 SKC wrote:
On February 27 2015 23:51 BallinWitStalin wrote:
How are people getting black out of this?

blue-gold for me.

The blue I can see people mistaking for white.

But I really don't get how that gold is supposed to be black.

People can see how lighting can add an yellow tint to the black dress. So even if it looks yellowish, they can see that the dress was originally black. The whole picture seems to be affected by an yellowish light.

The opposite is actually harder imo. I can't see how lighting would make a white dress this blue. Diferent shades of blue, like the XKCD pic sure, but it's always at least a light blue.


How can lighting make black appear brown/gold? Black does not reflect light rays, no matter what color the light is.

You are taking it way too literally. With poor saturation/brightness/etc levels black can look gold. If you need an example, check the OP. A black dress looks gold.


Ah this makes sense. Thank you
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 15:49:06
February 27 2015 15:46 GMT
#47
linux: I'm not calling you crazy

There are several ways by which light can leave a surface and be seen, the ones we need to care about here being:

1. Reflection
2. Absorption and re-radiation

When we call something 'black' we generally mean that it does not re-radiate any of the light it absorbs. But it can still reflect light, and that reflected light is, almost invariably, the same colour as the lightsource. That's how a red car can reflect a blue sky:

[image loading]

A perfectly matte, perfectly black object would (barring lens flare or hi-iso noise) always look black. But lace is not perfectly matte. It doesn't re-radiate much light but it does reflect it, hence the yellowish reflections on the OP image.

At the other extreme a mirror is, technically, also black - but it's highly reflective.

Also, neon colours look so bright because the surface absorbs many different frequencies of light and then emits (nearly) all of it at one frequency.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
February 27 2015 15:52 GMT
#48
I always see blue & black

people that see otherwise are crazy
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Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
February 27 2015 16:00 GMT
#49
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
February 27 2015 16:10 GMT
#50
On February 27 2015 14:34 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 14:32 Whole wrote:
Depending on the lighting/brightness of my screen, it appears either.

snip



That was fast, What pixel is it zoomed in on thoguh?

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On February 27 2015 14:33 Shiragaku wrote:
This appeared on my newsfeed
http://www.buzzfeedsucksdicks.com/catesish/help-am-i-going-insane-its-definitely-blue#.kuZP3yW3j


Rule #1000020 on the internet. Never ever link to buzzfeed.

It is sampled on the color closest to gold and closest to white. If you average the whole picture, it says blue black
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
February 27 2015 16:12 GMT
#51
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

My brain honestly can't figure out how A and B are same color, considering that A is same color as every other dark cell and my brain refuses to accept that B is not light cell.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 27 2015 16:13 GMT
#52
On February 28 2015 01:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

My brain honestly can't figure out how A and B are same color, considering that A is same color as every other dark cell and my brain refuses to accept that B is not light cell.

The letters. Not the cells.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
February 27 2015 16:15 GMT
#53
On February 28 2015 01:13 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

My brain honestly can't figure out how A and B are same color, considering that A is same color as every other dark cell and my brain refuses to accept that B is not light cell.

The letters. Not the cells.

Now i can't understand how not-color-blind person would think that A and B are different colors.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2015 16:16 GMT
#54
no, it's the cells
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2015 16:16 GMT
#55
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.
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TL+ Member
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 27 2015 16:16 GMT
#56
Yeah, it was the cells, I was crazy
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
February 27 2015 16:18 GMT
#57
On February 28 2015 01:16 marvellosity wrote:
no, it's the cells

Cells!? My brain just exploded.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
February 27 2015 16:19 GMT
#58
purple and brown/and or goldish
"Right on" - Morrow
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 16:23:14
February 27 2015 16:22 GMT
#59
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
February 27 2015 16:24 GMT
#60
The only colours I see are lightblue+a brownish gold, no matter how many times I look away from the screen, adjust my lighting etc.
wat
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2015 16:26 GMT
#61
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.
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TL+ Member
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 16:30:02
February 27 2015 16:27 GMT
#62
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.
TheFlock
Profile Joined September 2011
United States389 Posts
February 27 2015 16:31 GMT
#63
I still see a shadow darkened white and gold, changing angle or contrast or looking at it later does not change anything. Still don't understand how it could be anything else
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Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
February 27 2015 16:40 GMT
#64
I see a dress of white mixed in with some blue, and gold-ish parts as well.
Turns out if you increase the brightness enough everything becomes white.
Is the dress black in real life? Maybe. I can't tell, and don't have to either. All I got is this crappy picture, and the colors on this picture are clearly white/gold dominated with some blue mixed in. Still no idea what this thread is all about though.
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
February 27 2015 16:46 GMT
#65
The first time I saw this it was blue/back from my girlfriends phone. Now I've been staring at this for the past hour and I can't see anything but white/gold. There is a light bluish tint to the white but that appears to be shade. I don't know how I was once able to see blue/black but now I can't. Now it seems crazy to me that people are seeing blue and black..

this is driving me mad
Zaragon
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden235 Posts
February 27 2015 16:50 GMT
#66
It’s pretty simple. If the lighting in the room was as blue as the light in the background suggests, the color of the dress would be white and gold. So if your eyes try to compensate for the blue light, you think it’s white and gold. If your eyes instead correctly pick up the white and the red in the background, you compensate for the fact that blue tones could be washed out instead of increased (as we can see from other pictures of the dress that they clearly are) and you interpret the blue as being the color of the dress rather than the light.

How you see it probably depends a lot on the white balance you’re used to on phone cams, web cams, etc. Most people think it’s white and gold because most people are used to seeing bluish white balance on poor camera images.

If you don’t even understand how people can see white and gold, then use your web cam and tinker with the white balance for a white clothing article. You barely need to nudge it to make white look the exact shade of blue as in this picture.

Anyways, if you see it as white and gold, look at the white fabric to the left of the dress and the red spot to the right of it, then stop looking at the picture. Come back to it a while later and look at the fabric to the left and the red spot again, then the dress. It will be blue.

I really don’t think the illusion has much to do with shadow, just that the lighting in the upper right corner has a bluish haze, and we easily assume that the rest of the lighting is also blue or the white balance on the camera is blue, tinting the light in the first place. Seeing the right light in the picture depends on picking out the reference points that cancel out the assumption of blue light; in fact the greater light source is yellow.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 16:53:52
February 27 2015 16:51 GMT
#67
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op.

a bunch of ppl are calling the people who see white/gold crazy, but white/gold is winning the polls

a bunch of people are saying the true color of the dress is black blue but we have yet to see proof and pictures of the original dress without lighting tricks
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 16:56:05
February 27 2015 16:52 GMT
#68
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Also, the second reply in the thread already "proves" that the actual colors in the image are gold/brown and blue.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
February 27 2015 16:56 GMT
#69
On February 28 2015 01:52 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


original pic has huge ass sleeves, the pic you posted has cut off. The "fixed" pic you posted is just a photoshopped pic, not an actual undoctored pic under normal lighting
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 27 2015 16:57 GMT
#70
This is one of the things that make me feel too old for the internet. So many people comment on a completely mundane image of completely mundane dress as if it were the Second coming. What the fuck is so interesting about the fact that if you change brightness of a picture, colors look different, as well as if you take images with bad exposure? What is ambiguous about colors on an image which can be easily once for ever measured in any graphics program, as it is done at the very beginning of this thread?

I just don't get it.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 17:01:55
February 27 2015 16:58 GMT
#71
On February 28 2015 01:56 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:52 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


original pic has huge ass sleeves, the pic you posted has cut off. The "fixed" pic you posted is just a photoshopped pic, not an actual undoctored pic under normal lighting

That's a coat. Not the sleeves. Here is another pic:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Here's the story behind it:
http://elitedaily.com/news/world/heres-proof-need-dress-definitely-black-blue-photo/950113/

The interesting thing about it is that people seem to see completelly diferent colors. Even after messing with brightness setting and such. I can't think of another optical illusion that works like that.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
February 27 2015 17:00 GMT
#72
On February 28 2015 01:52 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Also, the second reply in the thread already "proves" that the actual colors in the image are gold/brown and blue.

I could swear that i never see such oversatured colors as in blue-black pic in real life O_o.
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saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
February 27 2015 17:02 GMT
#73
On February 28 2015 01:58 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:56 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:52 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


original pic has huge ass sleeves, the pic you posted has cut off. The "fixed" pic you posted is just a photoshopped pic, not an actual undoctored pic under normal lighting

That's a coat. Not the sleeves. Here is another pic:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Here is an examp of how we percieve the blue as white:

http://img2.imgtn.bdimg.com/it/u=2891002381,3237060887&fm=21&gp=0.jpg

its clear as hell what color the snow really is

SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 17:07:16
February 27 2015 17:04 GMT
#74
On February 28 2015 02:02 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:58 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:56 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:52 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
[quote]
This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


original pic has huge ass sleeves, the pic you posted has cut off. The "fixed" pic you posted is just a photoshopped pic, not an actual undoctored pic under normal lighting

That's a coat. Not the sleeves. Here is another pic:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Here is an examp of how we percieve the blue as white:

http://img2.imgtn.bdimg.com/it/u=2891002381,3237060887&fm=21&gp=0.jpg

its clear as hell what color the snow really is


404

But if it's a picture of blue snow, it's a completelly diferent issue. The sky also isn't actually blue. Everyone can see Ice being blue in certain ocasions. In the same way we know water isn't blue. But sometimes it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_ice_(glacial)
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 17:09:51
February 27 2015 17:09 GMT
#75
On February 28 2015 01:46 SolaR- wrote:
The first time I saw this it was blue/back from my girlfriends phone. Now I've been staring at this for the past hour and I can't see anything but white/gold. There is a light bluish tint to the white but that appears to be shade. I don't know how I was once able to see blue/black but now I can't. Now it seems crazy to me that people are seeing blue and black..

this is driving me mad


haha I see it in blue and black only again. Neato

can I change my vote?
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
February 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#76
It is definitely a horrible dress.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
February 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#77
I don't know why the argument is between blue/black and white/gold. I'm seeing it as blue/gold like a few other people in this thread.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
February 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#78
On February 28 2015 02:04 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 02:02 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:58 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:56 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:52 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
[quote]
The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
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The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
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original pic has huge ass sleeves, the pic you posted has cut off. The "fixed" pic you posted is just a photoshopped pic, not an actual undoctored pic under normal lighting

That's a coat. Not the sleeves. Here is another pic:
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Here is an examp of how we percieve the blue as white:

http://img2.imgtn.bdimg.com/it/u=2891002381,3237060887&fm=21&gp=0.jpg

its clear as hell what color the snow really is


404

But if it's a picture of blue snow, it's a completelly diferent issue. The sky also isn't actually blue. Everyone can see Ice being blue in certain ocasions. In the same way we know water isn't blue. But sometimes it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_ice_(glacial)


snow is different from water and the sky? water and sky is percieved as blue because of refraction. the snow isn't refracting light, its reflecting light in the same manner (due to the darkened lighting} that makes the majority of us percieve the dress as white
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 17:12:24
February 27 2015 17:12 GMT
#79
Haha this is brilliant. :D Looks white/gold to me, but in other pictures the dress is obviously black/blue.

Cool shit

e: Welp, 6k post in a non-SC thread. GG
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9013 Posts
February 27 2015 17:12 GMT
#80
It's white/gold to me, but when I look at it from a distance, the white part turns blue.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44043 Posts
February 27 2015 17:14 GMT
#81
It's a cute little illusion because of the poor/ reflected quality of the dress, but it's actually a black and blue dress.
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SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 17:16:47
February 27 2015 17:16 GMT
#82
Okay I see it in both black and blue and white and gold depending how I look at it.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 17:22:50
February 27 2015 17:20 GMT
#83
On February 28 2015 01:57 opisska wrote:
This is one of the things that make me feel too old for the internet. So many people comment on a completely mundane image of completely mundane dress as if it were the Second coming. What the fuck is so interesting about the fact that if you change brightness of a picture, colors look different, as well as if you take images with bad exposure? What is ambiguous about colors on an image which can be easily once for ever measured in any graphics program, as it is done at the very beginning of this thread?

I just don't get it.


No matter the lighting conditions (even angle or anything else) I always see blue and black, without any hesitation (a bit brown/goldish looking but I feel like the dress is black).

It's not just a matter of brightness, it's a really interesting case. Agree that the buzz level has been a bit too high for "just" something like this though.
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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
February 27 2015 17:26 GMT
#84
On February 28 2015 02:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
It's a cute little illusion because of the poor/ reflected quality of the dress, but it's actually a black and blue dress.


yeah it looks white/gold (but apparently not to everyone which is weird) because the picture's overexposed
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 17:29:14
February 27 2015 17:28 GMT
#85
On February 28 2015 02:26 Cheren wrote:
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On February 28 2015 02:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
It's a cute little illusion because of the poor/ reflected quality of the dress, but it's actually a black and blue dress.


yeah it looks white/gold (but apparently not to everyone which is weird) because the picture's overexposed


I saw it in white/gold until I saw the photo of the actual dress of blue and black. Now I see the dress in blue and black. Neat little illusion.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19208 Posts
February 27 2015 17:29 GMT
#86
There was a science talk on NPR and they were mentioning that color can be affected by your thyroid levels. The being said, as a color blind person, I see white and yellow and it doesn't bother me if you see it differently. Welcome to my world! It's not that fascinating!
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Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
February 27 2015 17:30 GMT
#87
[image loading]

Your brain is just trying to create a context and it's one or the other, even changing when looking at it again. Apparently the most interesting thing in the internet this year, what a time to be alive.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
February 27 2015 17:33 GMT
#88
On February 28 2015 02:26 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 02:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
It's a cute little illusion because of the poor/ reflected quality of the dress, but it's actually a black and blue dress.


yeah it looks white/gold (but apparently not to everyone which is weird) because the picture's overexposed


That's what makes it interesting. If it was an optical illusion that fooled everybody, nobody would care. It's the different answers that people came up with that made it explode like it did.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 27 2015 17:40 GMT
#89
I still don't believe there is any illusion at all. It's either people trolling to go along with the idea of the illusion, or just people with very badly calibrated monitors.
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SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
February 27 2015 17:43 GMT
#90
On February 28 2015 02:40 opisska wrote:
I still don't believe there is any illusion at all. It's either people trolling to go along with the idea of the illusion, or just people with very badly calibrated monitors.


nope. I can see it white/gold a d black/blue on the same screen without changing any brightness. I am on my smart phone. It just all depends on how you look at it, and the way your eyes focus on the background.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2015 17:45 GMT
#91
Just saw it blue/black for the first time. Then it went back to white (or pale blue)/gold. Can't get it back to black/blue no matter how I scroll/look D:
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MrMatt
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada225 Posts
February 27 2015 17:47 GMT
#92
On February 28 2015 02:30 Daray wrote:
[image loading]

Your brain is just trying to create a context and it's one or the other, even changing when looking at it again. Apparently the most interesting thing in the internet this year, what a time to be alive.


If you look at the cow pattern fabric behind the dress you get the 'colour balance' of the scene. So you can see what white and black look like. since the dress doesnt have a blue spotlight on it it is blue and black. under with an over exposed yellow cast.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
February 27 2015 17:48 GMT
#93
On February 28 2015 02:45 marvellosity wrote:
Just saw it blue/black for the first time. Then it went back to white (or pale blue)/gold. Can't get it back to black/blue no matter how I scroll/look D:


try looking at another picture of the dress with the colors fixed then go back to the original image and you should be able to see black and blue again. That is what usually works for me.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 27 2015 17:50 GMT
#94
IDK may be it has something to do with the fact that I have done too much DTP and can not only see immediately roughly what colors are in an image, but also how bad it would look on paper in our cheap 4-colour print on various kinds of paper... but I just see no way to misinterpret these colours. The dress takes most of the picture, so there is no real way to "immerse" in the scene, making the rest of the image largely irrelevant - and then it's just two kinds of pretty homogeneous areas with pretty clear hues.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 27 2015 17:53 GMT
#95
It's the same with me. No matter how I messed with setting or diferent screens, it was always obviously blue. It's a much darker blue than TL's background.. But that's what makes it interesting.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
February 27 2015 17:54 GMT
#96
On February 28 2015 02:47 MrMatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 02:30 Daray wrote:
[image loading]

Your brain is just trying to create a context and it's one or the other, even changing when looking at it again. Apparently the most interesting thing in the internet this year, what a time to be alive.


If you look at the cow pattern fabric behind the dress you get the 'colour balance' of the scene. So you can see what white and black look like. since the dress doesnt have a blue spotlight on it it is blue and black. under with an over exposed yellow cast.


Yeah, i can't see the white/gold anymore since i actually saw another pic of the dress and all the other "research" that's out there. Thing is though, it's all about the first glance and how your brain sees it at that moment, i'm not sure if it's possible to try to rationalize yourself to see anything else IF you don't actually know what it is you're looking at.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
February 27 2015 17:55 GMT
#97
No matter how many times I look at it, it just looks like blue(violet?)/gold.
Neither white/gold or blue/black happens to me.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 27 2015 17:56 GMT
#98
On February 28 2015 02:50 opisska wrote:
IDK may be it has something to do with the fact that I have done too much DTP and can not only see immediately roughly what colors are in an image, but also how bad it would look on paper in our cheap 4-colour print on various kinds of paper... but I just see no way to misinterpret these colours. The dress takes most of the picture, so there is no real way to "immerse" in the scene, making the rest of the image largely irrelevant - and then it's just two kinds of pretty homogeneous areas with pretty clear hues.

Fortunately you don't have to get it, you can just let other people enjoy themselves.
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Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 17:59:22
February 27 2015 17:58 GMT
#99
On February 28 2015 01:13 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

My brain honestly can't figure out how A and B are same color, considering that A is same color as every other dark cell and my brain refuses to accept that B is not light cell.

The letters. Not the cells.


Oooooh. I was seriously confused. Thinking the squares were supposed to be the same color. I see the letters A and B as the same color though. Same with the xkcd picture. No matter the background the dresses have exactly the same colors to me (white-blueish and gold). At least now I know what that was all about when I saw it at xkcd earlier. I just saw identical dresses in different backgrounds and was a little confused at what it was supposed to say.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 18:01:33
February 27 2015 17:59 GMT
#100
On February 28 2015 02:58 Thax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:13 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

My brain honestly can't figure out how A and B are same color, considering that A is same color as every other dark cell and my brain refuses to accept that B is not light cell.

The letters. Not the cells.


Oooooh. I was seriously confused. Thinking the squares were supposed to be the same color. I see the letters A and B as the same color though. Same with the xkcd picture. No matter the background they have exactly the same colors to me. At least now I know what that was all about when I saw it at xkcd earlier. I just saw identical dresses in different backgrounds and was a little confused at what it was supposed to say.

It is the squares. I was wrong, thinking of a diferent illusion.

For those illusions, you should be seeing diferent colors. Everyone does. It's wrong, but it is consistent.
MrMatt
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada225 Posts
February 27 2015 18:01 GMT
#101
On February 28 2015 02:58 Thax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:13 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

My brain honestly can't figure out how A and B are same color, considering that A is same color as every other dark cell and my brain refuses to accept that B is not light cell.

The letters. Not the cells.


Oooooh. I was seriously confused. Thinking the squares were supposed to be the same color. I see the letters A and B as the same color though. Same with the xkcd picture. No matter the background the dresses have exactly the same colors to me (white-blueish and gold). At least now I know what that was all about when I saw it at xkcd earlier. I just saw identical dresses in different backgrounds and was a little confused at what it was supposed to say.


The tiles represented by A and B are also the same colour. Take your hand and cover up most of the drawing so you just see the two colours without context
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
February 27 2015 18:03 GMT
#102
OK I just came back to this thread in a room with different lighting and for a second or two I saw white/gold (I thought someone had switched the image!)
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 27 2015 18:03 GMT
#103
On February 28 2015 02:55 Orek wrote:
No matter how many times I look at it, it just looks like blue(violet?)/gold.
Neither white/gold or blue/black happens to me.


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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
February 27 2015 18:05 GMT
#104
On February 28 2015 03:01 MrMatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 02:58 Thax wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:13 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

My brain honestly can't figure out how A and B are same color, considering that A is same color as every other dark cell and my brain refuses to accept that B is not light cell.

The letters. Not the cells.


Oooooh. I was seriously confused. Thinking the squares were supposed to be the same color. I see the letters A and B as the same color though. Same with the xkcd picture. No matter the background the dresses have exactly the same colors to me (white-blueish and gold). At least now I know what that was all about when I saw it at xkcd earlier. I just saw identical dresses in different backgrounds and was a little confused at what it was supposed to say.


The tiles represented by A and B are also the same colour. Take your hand and cover up most of the drawing so you just see the two colours without context

I found it more effective to just pick a color in GIMP and compare those. Turns out they are absolutely same. Damn, i went insane on this one, all hail Skynet.
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rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
February 27 2015 18:46 GMT
#105
Talking about optical illusions, the orange middle square and the top brown square are actually exactly the same color. It's impossible to believe at first.

[image loading]
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10115 Posts
February 27 2015 19:26 GMT
#106
On February 27 2015 23:33 c0ldfusion wrote:
I still think everyone who says it's gold/white is a troll. -_-'

That's how i see it. I can't see it in any other way lol. And i have two monitors :O
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 27 2015 19:32 GMT
#107
interested to see a video of it changing from black/blue to white gold.

I am only seeing white/gold
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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 20:52:27
February 27 2015 20:50 GMT
#108
turned my monitor brightness all the way down, looks black/blue, turned it back all the way up and it looks white/gold again

i think the difference in perception has to do with monitor glare. when there's glare on the screen it cancels out the yellow light and makes the dress look black/blue, when there's no glare the yellow light in the picture makes the dress look white/gold
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10115 Posts
February 27 2015 21:06 GMT
#109
Yeah, i can see it perfectly as blue/black on my cellphone =/
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
February 27 2015 21:12 GMT
#110
I'm trying really hard to see it as blue + black. But nope, yellow and white to me regardless of how far away I look at it from, whether it's my monitor or cellphone, different brightness.

Pretty neat.

When I saw this on Facebook initially, I thought this was going to be this troll thing, like that fairy tale where a king gets a dress made out of gold and silver, and the one's who make it, keep all the gold and silver, and say tell the king the dress looks beautiful, and anyone who can't see it is stupid. And so the king is naked, but nobody wants to look stupid, so everyone admires his dress.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9483 Posts
February 27 2015 21:19 GMT
#111
On February 28 2015 03:03 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 02:55 Orek wrote:
No matter how many times I look at it, it just looks like blue(violet?)/gold.
Neither white/gold or blue/black happens to me.


We need to start building an underground substructure of sane people to rule the world when everybody else will lose their ability to percieve reality.


Good luck finding some.
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13021 Posts
February 27 2015 21:36 GMT
#112
Its black and blue ... how does white and gold is winning LOL?

Just look at the background there is too much light, maybe thats why you could see white/gold (wtf?).
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 27 2015 21:44 GMT
#113
On February 28 2015 06:36 SkelA wrote:
Its black and blue ... how does white and gold is winning LOL?

Just look at the background there is too much light, maybe thats why you could see white/gold (wtf?).

I think the problem is the question being "What colour is this dress", not "What colours do you see in this picture".

It looks like a White and Gold dress that's in the shade and has all kind of lighting issues (and was taken from a low quality camera).
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
February 27 2015 21:46 GMT
#114
What black, seriously guys. Stop trolling , there is no black.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11755 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 21:58:07
February 27 2015 21:56 GMT
#115
I can see black in the cow pattern in the background. The dress looks nothing like it until I go below 10 in the contrast setting when everything looks black. The only way to tell is to look it up in an image editing program though, as somebody did on the first page.

There it is shown to be gold and blue (on my screen). Nowhere near the white or black on the scale.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 27 2015 21:56 GMT
#116
On February 28 2015 06:46 Laserist wrote:
What black, seriously guys. Stop trolling , there is no black.


What white, seriously guys. Stop trolling, there is no white.

It's obviously not pure/perfect black we're seeing (just like you're probably not seeing perfect white on the other stripes). It's like black-ish with a golden tone generated by the reflected light.
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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
February 27 2015 22:02 GMT
#117
I see pretty clear blue and black, I can tell though that there is light reflecting on the black that gives it some gold-ish tone as previous people said
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
February 27 2015 22:07 GMT
#118
[image loading]

Poll: What are the colors of the square?

White and gold (2)
 
50%

Black and blue (2)
 
50%

4 total votes

Your vote: What are the colors of the square?

(Vote): White and gold
(Vote): Black and blue



puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
February 27 2015 22:11 GMT
#119
ukraine?
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
February 27 2015 22:16 GMT
#120
On February 28 2015 07:07 batsnacks wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: What are the colors of the square?

White and gold (2)
 
50%

Black and blue (2)
 
50%

4 total votes

Your vote: What are the colors of the square?

(Vote): White and gold
(Vote): Black and blue





? the answer isnt even in the options. Red and Blue
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9558 Posts
February 27 2015 22:16 GMT
#121
Honestly? I see it as white + bronze/light brown. I can settle on gold.
My mind is blown that people see black and blue there. I haven't yet read the whole thread, but before reading it i can only deduce their gamma of their monitor is fucked up O.o
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13021 Posts
February 27 2015 22:22 GMT
#122
Yellow and Blue. Gold is a color ?
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 27 2015 22:23 GMT
#123
On February 28 2015 07:16 Latham wrote:
Honestly? I see it as white + bronze/light brown. I can settle on gold.
My mind is blown that people see black and blue there. I haven't yet read the whole thread, but before reading it i can only deduce their gamma of their monitor is fucked up O.o


Nope, different people see different colors on the exact same color on the exact same screen. Happened in my office and to many other.
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phrenetiC
Profile Joined April 2011
Switzerland224 Posts
February 27 2015 22:27 GMT
#124
I'm beginning to think I've been trolled. I tried all adjustments of gamma/brightness possible on both monitors to make it appear black and blue... it remains white and gold/beige.

Only skimmed through the first pages of this thread. Have you guys ruled out dyschromatopsia? No clue...
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 27 2015 22:29 GMT
#125
On February 28 2015 07:27 phrenetiC wrote:
I'm beginning to think I've been trolled. I tried all adjustments of gamma/brightness possible on both monitors to make it appear black and blue... it remains white and gold/beige.

Only skimmed through the first pages of this thread. Have you guys ruled out dyschromatopsia? No clue...

No, everyone sees the same thing.

Everyone also makes completely different assumptions on how natural lighting and photo quality are screwing up the original colours.
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Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
February 27 2015 22:33 GMT
#126
On February 28 2015 07:16 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 07:07 batsnacks wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: What are the colors of the square?

White and gold (2)
 
50%

Black and blue (2)
 
50%

4 total votes

Your vote: What are the colors of the square?

(Vote): White and gold
(Vote): Black and blue





? the answer isnt even in the options. Red and Blue


I'm going with Yellow and Blue
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 27 2015 22:37 GMT
#127
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]

Those are the three main shades of the lighter color in the dress btw. How some (most) people can see this as white is pretty amazing to me.
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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
February 27 2015 22:37 GMT
#128
for the people who see it white and gold, try comparing the dress with the fabric at the bottom left, the one that's like cows (black and white) you can compare the actual white and the blue of the dress
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 27 2015 22:39 GMT
#129
I can only see it as black+blue
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
February 27 2015 22:41 GMT
#130
still no way i can possibly see the golden-brown color as black without turning brightness all the way down and looking at my monitor from an angle
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 27 2015 22:41 GMT
#131
On February 28 2015 07:37 PoP wrote:
Those are the three main shades of the lighter color in the dress btw. How some (most) people can see this as white is pretty amazing to me.

Again, the question isn't "what colours are in this picture?" It's "what colours do you think this dress is?"
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wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
February 27 2015 22:41 GMT
#132
TL should make the website banner white and gold for April Fools' Day.
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
February 27 2015 22:42 GMT
#133
like i know it's black cause i took photography and know what overexposure does, but i can't see the picture as black unless i look at it weird
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 27 2015 23:03 GMT
#134
sports pope on this dress
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
February 27 2015 23:04 GMT
#135
Well, every other picture of that dress i saw today magically turned from blueish-white+brown-ish gold into blue-black. Except the one in OP. Geto boys song was never as relevant.
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Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 23:22:09
February 27 2015 23:21 GMT
#136
This whole thing really is the pinnacle of internet. People perceive it differently and everyone is absolutely certain that they are right and anyone else who perceives it differently is stupid, crazy or at least color blind. They are so sure of it that the thought of someone perceiving it differently angers them. It really is fascinating. Remember kids, colors aren't real!
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 27 2015 23:35 GMT
#137
Poll: What colors?

White/gold (265)
 
54%

Blue/black (174)
 
36%

other (50)
 
10%

489 total votes

Your vote: What colors?

(Vote): White/gold
(Vote): Blue/black
(Vote): other


Fuck yeah, im part of majority :D
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 27 2015 23:37 GMT
#138
I see purple/brownish gold
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 27 2015 23:40 GMT
#139
why the hell people voting on blue/black?

lol.
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Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
February 27 2015 23:45 GMT
#140
On February 28 2015 08:40 Mensol wrote:
why the hell people voting on blue/black?

lol.


Given that the dress is, according to the girl who took the picture, blue with black lace, it's not too surprising

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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
February 27 2015 23:58 GMT
#141
If not for the amazon link, I would have probably kept thinking I was just getting trolled by a little less than half of humanity -.-'
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 00:05:07
February 28 2015 00:00 GMT
#142
[image loading]

hmmmmmm.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 28 2015 00:18 GMT
#143
I just showed someone the picture, in the same screen I saw it. She cannot believe it is anything but pure white. I have never been able to see anything but blue. So it really isn't just about brightness levels in the monitor or anything like that. It's kinda crazy.
JuneMay
Profile Joined May 2011
49 Posts
February 28 2015 00:23 GMT
#144
I see blue/violet and brown/gold.

People who "see" black most likely saw true picture and trying to brag how they have super vision, when in reality people who see black are wrong. There is nothing black on that photo. Yea the dress is black and blue in reality, but in photo its gold blue.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States22985 Posts
February 28 2015 00:31 GMT
#145
This dress is politics in a nutshell.

The dress has a 'real' color and a 'perceived color' despite people being shown in every way possible that the dress is clearly actually blue many peoples eyes/brains can't see it differently.

Both sides are sure of what they see but the reality is what the reality is, even if all one can see is white and gold.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 00:35:02
February 28 2015 00:33 GMT
#146
Black vs gold is a diferent issue. People see how satured the image is and can see how a faded black could look yellowish. The question is what color is the dress afterall, not what color you are looking at.

They still seem to see a darker color than those who see white, but I don't think a lot of people actually see true pure black.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1556 Posts
February 28 2015 00:36 GMT
#147
There are very few clothes that are actually black. Most blacks are usually very deep blue or deep brown. This one is a very deep brown, but with insane lighting, it shows more brown than black. But you can guess that it's supposed to be black from the context.

Likewise, there is nothing white in that blue, yet people claim it is white. Some are amazed that they saw different colors when they looked at it again. Yet, this happens pretty much all the time for colorblind people. Since you often have to guess at colors, sometimes you get it wrong, and if someone tells you the real color, it often changes in front of your very eyes.

I guess people who are used to think of colors/perception as absolutes have a hard time wrapping their head around this simple illusion/crappy photo. But your brain is a huge part of your vision, and sometimes, it is wrong.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 28 2015 00:38 GMT
#148
Yeah, you either assume that the photo is saturated and has lighting exposure issues so all the colours are faded and washed out, or you assume that the shadows and the light through the glass is causing odd tinting.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 00:40:59
February 28 2015 00:40 GMT
#149
The diference is that people see it as brown, and make the conclusion that the brown should be black, while people that see white see no blue at all. It is as white as a sheet of paper.

If you were to argue with someone that said they saw black, that it actually looks browish, I'm sure most would agree.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 28 2015 00:45 GMT
#150


i see black/blue in this video l o l. when i look normal picture its still gold/white though.
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hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
February 28 2015 00:54 GMT
#151
I think the biggest thing for this is that the picture of the dress itself is affected by the light source. People show the colors are not what other people say using evidence from photo programs. The problem itself however is not in WHAT people are seeing, but HOW they perceive it. The dress is in fact black and blue, but apparently some people cannot understand light sources correctly and see that the dress's color is obviously being affected making it seem that it is indeed probably white and gold or whatever to them. The photo programs are not going to say WHAT color something is, but simply show you the same color according to the computer itself. What the computer says however is only as good as you can understand, and what the computer says through a program is not itself an answer.

This has nothing to do with the receptors of our eyes but simply how we understand information about something. It is not unlikely that people misunderstood the light source from the get go, though I myself saw and understood it instantly. The dress is definitely black and blue in real life, but the picture itself is affected by a light source.
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
February 28 2015 01:02 GMT
#152
On February 28 2015 09:00 Mensol wrote:
[image loading]

hmmmmmm.


Yeah thats why i don't trust those kind of images, its imposible to prove (the way i see it) which color it is, or if people are just trolling. http://i.imgur.com/mOk1CPT.png
Thats the problem with the internet, you cannot trust anybody.


ALso, i've have read that the real dress is bluish-gold on some sites and on others that it is blue and black.

Also obligatory pic:
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 28 2015 01:02 GMT
#153
This meme is way out of control...
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
February 28 2015 01:03 GMT
#154
I see blue and gold, lol.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
February 28 2015 01:11 GMT
#155
i see green and purple
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Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
February 28 2015 01:32 GMT
#156
On February 28 2015 09:23 JuneMay wrote:
I see blue/violet and brown/gold.

People who "see" black most likely saw true picture and trying to brag how they have super vision, when in reality people who see black are wrong. There is nothing black on that photo. Yea the dress is black and blue in reality, but in photo its gold blue.


This.

All that is to be "learned" from this thing is that saturation turns things whiter.

I learned that, like, 20 years ago.
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 02:15:07
February 28 2015 02:09 GMT
#157
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[image loading]


LOL 10/10
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
February 28 2015 03:12 GMT
#158
I see blue black. I have always seen blue black.

I read a theory that night owls like myself will usually see it as blue black but people who are more day people will see it as white gold.

I asked three other people I work with and they all see white gold :p So thats probably squished haha
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
February 28 2015 04:38 GMT
#159
I saw blue/black this afternoon, but now I am seeing white/gold.
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 28 2015 04:58 GMT
#160
It seems dumb to me. Clearly the picture is the result of a camera that, given the surrounding light, adjusted the colors and brightness on the dress itself, or else the picture was just edited. It's just a play off the fact that clothing is never truly black, rather a very dark brown or some other such color, and that colors if brightened enough appear white, resulting in the dichotomy. If the truth was that the original photo was edited to create this, it wouldn't surprise me.

Also, the dress is damned ugly, who cares.
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
February 28 2015 05:06 GMT
#161
This fucking dress lol

Last night I saw blue/black, later that same night I saw white/gold. Same exact image. I know I didn't imagine it cuz I replied to the person in writing, saying that I saw black/blue.
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ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
February 28 2015 05:10 GMT
#162
The screenshot in the OP is white/gold. If you think otherwise, your monitor is not calibrated correctly and you need to do some adjustments.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States22985 Posts
February 28 2015 05:42 GMT
#163
On February 28 2015 14:10 ElMeanYo wrote:
The screenshot in the OP is white/gold. If you think otherwise, your monitor is not calibrated correctly and you need to do some adjustments.


roflmao. The funny thing is that you are probably serious.
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Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
February 28 2015 05:45 GMT
#164
I believe the manufacturer actually came out and said it was a blue and black. I still see White and gold though
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
February 28 2015 05:53 GMT
#165
blue and gold...
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 06:07:01
February 28 2015 06:01 GMT
#166
On February 28 2015 14:10 ElMeanYo wrote:
The screenshot in the OP is white/gold. If you think otherwise, your monitor is not calibrated correctly and you need to do some adjustments.

Ive seen this screenshot on god knows how many different screens and phones and it always looks blue and black to me.

"Edited versions to demonstrate why people see it differently excluded"
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 28 2015 06:11 GMT
#167
On February 28 2015 12:12 Orcasgt24 wrote:
I see blue black. I have always seen blue black.

I read a theory that night owls like myself will usually see it as blue black but people who are more day people will see it as white gold.

I asked three other people I work with and they all see white gold :p So thats probably squished haha

Interesting! I'm also a darkness kinda guy (I'm trying to make it sound cool but the reality is sadder) and I also see it blue/black.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 06:25:26
February 28 2015 06:24 GMT
#168
buy it on amazon

to answer the questions:
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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
February 28 2015 06:33 GMT
#169
People aren't getting any smarter, that's for sure. Idiocracy here we come.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 28 2015 06:35 GMT
#170
On February 28 2015 15:33 CursOr wrote:
People aren't getting any smarter, that's for sure. Idiocracy here we come.

Haha, well said.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
February 28 2015 06:36 GMT
#171
On February 28 2015 15:33 CursOr wrote:
People aren't getting any smarter, that's for sure. Idiocracy here we come.


are you sure about that? i think you only hear about lesser imporant things like this more easily.
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ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 06:42:18
February 28 2015 06:39 GMT
#172
On February 28 2015 14:42 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 14:10 ElMeanYo wrote:
The screenshot in the OP is white/gold. If you think otherwise, your monitor is not calibrated correctly and you need to do some adjustments.


roflmao. The funny thing is that you are probably serious.


roflmao. Are you fucking serious? You are trolling.
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Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 06:55:52
February 28 2015 06:52 GMT
#173
On February 28 2015 15:11 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 12:12 Orcasgt24 wrote:
I see blue black. I have always seen blue black.

I read a theory that night owls like myself will usually see it as blue black but people who are more day people will see it as white gold.

I asked three other people I work with and they all see white gold :p So thats probably squished haha

Interesting! I'm also a darkness kinda guy (I'm trying to make it sound cool but the reality is sadder) and I also see it blue/black.

Night owl, still haven't seen anything but the same white and gold I've always seen. However, the colouring of the photo has always lead me to believe the dress might be violet or pink and brown or gold. Blue and black, though, I just don't get.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12329 Posts
February 28 2015 07:09 GMT
#174
I don't know how anyone see black in that photo at all
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
February 28 2015 07:22 GMT
#175
On February 28 2015 16:09 ETisME wrote:
I don't know how anyone see black in that photo at all


its not about what you see in the photo, its about what color the dress is in real life.
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MielieZA
Profile Joined August 2012
South Africa25 Posts
February 28 2015 07:33 GMT
#176
If I open another site and see this god damn dress.....

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=862347070473104&set=vb.676660329041780&type=2&theater
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13021 Posts
February 28 2015 07:44 GMT
#177
On February 28 2015 16:09 ETisME wrote:
I don't know how anyone see black in that photo at all


I can understand your point but how ppl see white in that photo ?????
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States22985 Posts
February 28 2015 07:46 GMT
#178
On February 28 2015 16:44 SkelA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 16:09 ETisME wrote:
I don't know how anyone see black in that photo at all


I can understand your point but how ppl see white in that photo ?????


To be fair as someone who saw white at first it was more of a really faint looking baby blue or something but it looked like the blue tinge was from the lighting.
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6181 Posts
February 28 2015 07:46 GMT
#179
Its funny, because my cousin collaged her newsfeed on Facebook outlining about 12 different pictures of the dress that had been posted within a few hours, and I absolutely 100% saw blue and black. No doubt about it. All the same image. But when you look at it closer/bigger on the same screen it was undoubtedly blue/gold.
It is bothering me that this is becoming a thing when I don't really care and that the dress has been confirmed to be blue and black.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 28 2015 07:55 GMT
#180
On February 28 2015 09:23 JuneMay wrote:
People who "see" black most likely saw true picture and trying to brag how they have super vision


lol
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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
February 28 2015 08:19 GMT
#181
does anyone have the RAW file to change the white balance around?

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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 08:30:09
February 28 2015 08:28 GMT
#182
yea, people "seeing" black in that pic are such conformist tools.

shit is fake anyway because it's not about the white lighting (contrast/brightness) but about color filters added on top/below(behind) the dress which literally change its color.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
February 28 2015 08:47 GMT
#183
On February 28 2015 17:28 xM(Z wrote:
yea, people "seeing" black in that pic are such conformist tools.

shit is fake anyway because it's not about the white lighting (contrast/brightness) but about color filters added on top/below(behind) the dress which literally change its color.

I see black because that's what my eyes see. That makes me a conformist tool? Sounds like your completely unwilling to admit that a low quality photo with a bright background to the right and a dark on on the left can result in human eyes filtering the light reflecting off the picture differently.

Or you are just a conformist tool for seeing white. Probably this one
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20278 Posts
February 28 2015 09:01 GMT
#184
On February 28 2015 17:47 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 17:28 xM(Z wrote:
yea, people "seeing" black in that pic are such conformist tools.

shit is fake anyway because it's not about the white lighting (contrast/brightness) but about color filters added on top/below(behind) the dress which literally change its color.

I see black because that's what my eyes see. That makes me a conformist tool? Sounds like your completely unwilling to admit that a low quality photo with a bright background to the right and a dark on on the left can result in human eyes filtering the light reflecting off the picture differently.

Or you are just a conformist tool for seeing white. Probably this one


The pixels themselves are a goldish color, even if you perceive blue + dark (i do sometimes, flicked back and forth like 8 times yesterday) then you'll see blue with kinda goldish dark color
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5278 Posts
February 28 2015 09:47 GMT
#185
On February 28 2015 17:47 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 17:28 xM(Z wrote:
yea, people "seeing" black in that pic are such conformist tools.

shit is fake anyway because it's not about the white lighting (contrast/brightness) but about color filters added on top/below(behind) the dress which literally change its color.

I see black because that's what my eyes see. That makes me a conformist tool? Sounds like your completely unwilling to admit that a low quality photo with a bright background to the right and a dark on on the left can result in human eyes filtering the light reflecting off the picture differently.

Or you are just a conformist tool for seeing white. Probably this one

(first, i like to note that i specifically said it's not about brightness but about color filters that filter certain colors out).
to your point now: yes, that is impossible. all eyes (unless injured/sick/with issues or something) filter light the same way. it's the same organ. if i capture the reflection of that picture on your retina i'll show you it's not black. i'll show you that you don't "see" it black.
so, your the perception is skewed psychologically and has nothing to do with the eyes.

i don't see white. i see blue/gold-gray-ish
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 28 2015 09:52 GMT
#186
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that no one actually sees "white" or "black" there. They either see a darkish-brown and assume it's a washed out black, or they see a lightish-blue and assume it's white that's tinted by shadows.

It's a trick of context as much as it is perception.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 28 2015 10:12 GMT
#187
On February 28 2015 18:52 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that no one actually sees "white" or "black" there. They either see a darkish-brown and assume it's a washed out black, or they see a lightish-blue and assume it's white that's tinted by shadows.

It's a trick of context as much as it is perception.


This.

I strongly believe the dress is black by looking at it but obviously the perceived color isn't perfect black, more like goldish dark, but the goldish part (to us) seems obviously due to the lighting.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
February 28 2015 10:17 GMT
#188
I do find it funny how a lot of people get extremely angry at the discussion itself. I found the whole mess to be kinda fun. Also, it's white and gold (though I can understand the white has a certain blue-ish glow to it).
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Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
February 28 2015 10:24 GMT
#189
On February 28 2015 14:10 ElMeanYo wrote:
The screenshot in the OP is white/gold. If you think otherwise, your monitor is not calibrated correctly and you need to do some adjustments.


Erm. No. You're being inconsistent. You're saying it's gold because the pixels contain yellow, right? Then by that standard the 'white' is blue, because the pixels are blue - pretty much as as blue as the by-lines in this thread.

Nobody is 'seeing' black and blue, in the sense of what light is entering their eyes. Nor is anybody 'seeing' white and gold. Our brains are interpreting what we see according to the assumptions they're making about the prevailing light in the scene. Different assumptions = different perception of colour.

The dress is, in fact, black and blue. That's not in doubt. I perceive it as black and blue (apart from a couple of seconds last night when I glanced at the screen and saw white/gold).
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Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
February 28 2015 10:25 GMT
#190
On February 28 2015 19:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
I do find it funny how a lot of people get extremely angry at the discussion itself. I found the whole mess to be kinda fun. Also, it's white and gold (though I can understand the white has a certain blue-ish glow to it).


The dress is, according to the person who took the picture and the websites selling the dress, black and blue.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
February 28 2015 10:30 GMT
#191
On February 28 2015 19:25 Umpteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 19:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
I do find it funny how a lot of people get extremely angry at the discussion itself. I found the whole mess to be kinda fun. Also, it's white and gold (though I can understand the white has a certain blue-ish glow to it).


The dress is, according to the person who took the picture and the websites selling the dress, black and blue.


Yes, I know. I meant to say I see it as white and gold
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 10:35:40
February 28 2015 10:34 GMT
#192
On February 28 2015 19:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
I do find it funny how a lot of people get extremely angry at the discussion itself. I found the whole mess to be kinda fun. Also, it's white and gold (though I can understand the white has a certain blue-ish glow to it).


Yeah, same. The whole thing was pretty fascinating to me, both the actual dress color issue and the fact something as mundane can get viral so insanely fast.

Edit: I suppose I can add to the whole thing by saying that it looks sky blue and gold-brown to me.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
February 28 2015 10:35 GMT
#193
Personally, I first saw it as white + gold, then I saw it at black and blue.

There are tons of videos saying that it's blue and black. I think OP can edit videos from DNews, ASAP Science, and Computerphile. I doubt there's nothing more to discuss and people can just go spam this thread.
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Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
February 28 2015 10:40 GMT
#194
all i see is grey and grey. I'm colorblind
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RookerS
Profile Joined May 2013
Ivory Coast75 Posts
February 28 2015 10:54 GMT
#195
seriously how can people say its white? the tl background colour is white? can you not see the difference in the colour of the tl background and the blue of the dress? i aint no eye scientist but im pretty sure i can see properly
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States22985 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 11:32:15
February 28 2015 11:17 GMT
#196
On February 28 2015 19:34 Talin wrote:
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On February 28 2015 19:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
I do find it funny how a lot of people get extremely angry at the discussion itself. I found the whole mess to be kinda fun. Also, it's white and gold (though I can understand the white has a certain blue-ish glow to it).


Yeah, same. The whole thing was pretty fascinating to me, both the actual dress color issue and the fact something as mundane can get viral so insanely fast.

Edit: I suppose I can add to the whole thing by saying that it looks sky blue and gold-brown to me.


I'm thinking about writing a blog about why this is the most amazing thing that will probably happen this year maybe this decade.

Not the dress itself but how the dress/picture exposed something on such a viral level. And not like Gangnam style.

People still don't seem to realize but the way this phenomena has crystallized the way we come to conclusions, skepticism of facts and science, our inclination toward conspiracy theories, our cynicism, our apathy, our rage, and so much more, in such a simple and concise issue is potentially revolutionary.

Most people have discussed this issue with other people. Think about how the people you have asked about it reacted to the whole phenomena, then think about how they interpret other controversial issues in their lives...

EXAMPLES:

Did they see what they saw/see and conclude 'it is what I see' other peoples explanations and perceptions be damned ("They must be trolling, color blind, settings screwy, defective, etc...)

Did they see a dress/optical illusion easily explained and immediately say/think "this is stupid I'm not even going to think about this thing Please make it go away there is nothing to be learned here!" or "Here's the science stupids now go back to your day"?

Did they see both and try to mediate heated arguments about whether someone's brain/monitor/eyes were defective or convince someone that they weren't trolling when they said they can only see white and gold or blue and black or orange


I suspect their reaction says a lot about how they tend to interact with other information.

EDIT: I'm not putting anyone on blast but you could look at posters in this thread and then look at other controversial issues and see the pattern I'm describing.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 12:00:11
February 28 2015 11:59 GMT
#197
I found it in a german magazine today. They explained both scenarios. The gold/white color happens exactly this if you consider the background and where this dress is. Exactly like I said yesterday.
On February 27 2015 23:55 Dingodile wrote:
I (still) only see gold/white as real colour of this dress. This white tends to be dark white & very lightly violet because she stays at sun-shade.


blue/dark is if you can ignore the very light background (in your brain too). I cant see it and I even did it with photoshop (background black, dress stays intact). Doesnt work either. I think I should stop go outside if we have excellent weather (as in that picture) to see this picture as blue/black finally.
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 12:06:20
February 28 2015 12:05 GMT
#198
A friend of mine has an MSc in Neuroscience and he wrote a blogpost about this (english) click
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4219 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 12:14:15
February 28 2015 12:12 GMT
#199
This is disgusting T_T....in the pick in the OP I see black and blue...a friend of mine showed me the pic from another website on her phone and it was clearly white and goldish/leaf greenish.

On the news website that she took the picture from, seeing it on my work computer (I am now browsing TL on my personal computer) it was also black and blue. I would be fine with this saying to myself "well she took the picture from a strange angle and it changed the light etc and I saw it as white and when looking at the computer I see always black and blue"...however, 5 people that were with me did not change their position changing from the phone to the website and back again....the only time they saw blue was in the photoshop'd pic (with REALLLYYYY dark blue).

This is what intrigues me the most, if each of us changed their position based on the device their were looking at, I would be fine, but my other friends didn't, only two of us thought we were looking at 2 different pictures, the other 5 only saw white in every device.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 12:35:48
February 28 2015 12:13 GMT
#200
On February 28 2015 19:54 RookerS wrote:
seriously how can people say its white? the tl background colour is white? can you not see the difference in the colour of the tl background and the blue of the dress? i aint no eye scientist but im pretty sure i can see properly

We are discussing about real colours of this dress. Tell me how you see it as blue/black in what background. Example: You see a clear and gaudy white t-shirt in a excellent weather (only sun, 40+°C). If you see that t-shirt under a sunshade, it can tends to a dark white with light blue/violet colour. This is my experience, it didnt took 1sec to notice that context/background for me.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
February 28 2015 13:01 GMT
#201
https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/571247167043731456/photo/1

the middle pic is the same as from OP. My assumption: They just slide the bright/contrast or whatever and publiced it in 3 differently pics. What a joke but nice PR thing. You really should read comments on amazon, they are great!.
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quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 13:24:44
February 28 2015 13:23 GMT
#202
lol @ people seeing black. I bet you were the one who, as a kid, was trying to eat crayons instead of painting with them

it's gold or goldish-brown
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light blue or white (depends on what was the lighting/shadow intensity)

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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 28 2015 13:28 GMT
#203
On February 28 2015 22:23 quirinus wrote:
lol @ people seeing black.

it's gold or goldish-brown
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light blue or white (depends on what was the lighting/shadow intensity)

I bet you were the one who, as a kid, was trying to eat crayons instead of painting with them


The dress in the picture is actually black and blue as confirmed by the person who took it, just so you know.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
February 28 2015 13:30 GMT
#204
On February 28 2015 22:28 PoP wrote:
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On February 28 2015 22:23 quirinus wrote:
lol @ people seeing black.

it's gold or goldish-brown
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light blue or white (depends on what was the lighting/shadow intensity)

I bet you were the one who, as a kid, was trying to eat crayons instead of painting with them


The dress in the picture is actually black and blue as confirmed by the person who took it, just so you know.

Yeah but the colors on the pictures are indeed gold / light blue. Who cares what the actual color is.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 28 2015 13:47 GMT
#205
On February 28 2015 22:30 Poopi wrote:
Yeah but the colors on the pictures are indeed gold / light blue. Who cares what the actual color is.


Well when so many people clearly see it as the color it actually is (I do), then it's pretty funny to consider only the other part is right.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11755 Posts
February 28 2015 13:51 GMT
#206
On February 28 2015 22:47 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 22:30 Poopi wrote:
Yeah but the colors on the pictures are indeed gold / light blue. Who cares what the actual color is.


Well when so many people clearly see it as the color it actually is (I do), then it's pretty funny to consider only the other part is right.


If you check the third post, what colour is it at in the scale? On my monitor it is nowhere near black or white on either of the scales.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 28 2015 13:56 GMT
#207
On February 28 2015 22:51 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 22:47 PoP wrote:
On February 28 2015 22:30 Poopi wrote:
Yeah but the colors on the pictures are indeed gold / light blue. Who cares what the actual color is.


Well when so many people clearly see it as the color it actually is (I do), then it's pretty funny to consider only the other part is right.


If you check the third post, what colour is it at in the scale? On my monitor it is nowhere near black or white on either of the scales.


Goldish/dark brown and blue (not pure blue ofc, like light, slighly greyish blue, but definitely not white by any stretch of the imagination).

And goldish/dark brown is pretty much exactly how black looks when hovered by yellow/sunish light.
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5278 Posts
February 28 2015 14:19 GMT
#208
the light sensor of the camera was hit by a powerful yellow light which made the camera mix it with the dress original colors:
black with yellow = light gold-grayish
dark blue with yellow = light blue-grayish.
the later colors were what camera caught on film. those same colors can be accentuated or diluted based on <insert electronic display here> brightness/contrast but they'll never become black and blue as the original unless you filter out the yellow.
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2142 Posts
February 28 2015 14:21 GMT
#209
I still have no idea how anyone can consider that "white" color. Makes no sense. Blue is 100%.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 14:53:35
February 28 2015 14:52 GMT
#210
ok I have seen this picture multiple times on many things , a tablet , smartphone , laptop , desktop......and I always get different results !!!! sometimes I see black and blue , sometimes I see gold and white , I'd really like to know how this is happening

I send the pic from my pc to my tablet , and I saw different colors so it really can't be different pictures or data

edit : seems like a few posts above me solves it XD
TriO
Profile Joined July 2011
United States421 Posts
February 28 2015 14:57 GMT
#211
This is more important than real social issues we have in our society.
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StatixEx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom779 Posts
February 28 2015 15:22 GMT
#212
its blue black now lets all move along!
Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 15:24:21
February 28 2015 15:23 GMT
#213
On February 28 2015 23:21 llIH wrote:
I still have no idea how anyone can consider that "white" color. Makes no sense. Blue is 100%.

here are some RGB-values from analysing different pixels of the dress:
100/105/129
130/146/182
125/134/160
140/148/184
156/175/200
163/177/211
071/080/112

So yes, while blue is the dominating color, it does not dominate by much. Yes, you get these colors if you use blue and turn on some knobs.

HOWEVER, if you use the HSL model (hue-saturation-lightness) you can quickly find out that the saturation is far less than 50% on the blue for every single one of these probes I took. Which means there is two to three times as much white than there is blue. Add to that the fact that the lightness is always over 50% (even more white) and it is very easy to conclude that white does in fact dominate over blue in this picture. Which is why it is perfectly reasonable to say that you see a white dress that is slightly more blue-ish and grey-ish than the white you are used to.

Now if you would factor in the brightness of the background you could come to the conclusion that the dress is more blue-ish than it appears at first sight. But just from looking at the dress itself it clearly is white. And if you say "but the original piece is actually black/blue" then I can provide you with a splendid picture to illustrate my point:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
This was a full pink-red square. Then I turned up the lightness and turned down the saturation. It still can be identified as pink-red if you use an image editor, but it is now as pink-red as your dress is black/blue.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 15:29:36
February 28 2015 15:25 GMT
#214
On March 01 2015 00:23 Fi0na wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 23:21 llIH wrote:
I still have no idea how anyone can consider that "white" color. Makes no sense. Blue is 100%.

here are some RGB-values from analysing different pixels of the dress:
100/105/129
130/146/182
125/134/160
140/148/184
156/175/200
163/177/211
071/080/112

So yes, while blue is the dominating color, it does not dominate by much. Yes, you get these colors if you use blue and turn on some knobs.

HOWEVER, if you use the HSL model (hue-saturation-lightness) you can quickly find out that the saturation is far less than 50% on the blue for every single one of these probes I took. Which means there is two to three times as much white than there is blue. Add to that the fact that the lightness is always over 50% (even more white) and it is very easy to conclude that white does in fact dominate over blue in this picture. Which is why it is perfectly reasonable to say that you see a white dress that is slightly more blue-ish and grey-ish than the white you are used to.

Now if you would factor in the brightness of the background you could come to the conclusion that the dress is more blue-ish than it appears at first sight. But just from looking at the dress itself it clearly is white. And if you say "but the original piece is actually black/blue" then I can provide you with a splendid picture to illustrate my point:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
This was a full pink-red square. Then I turned up the lightness and turned down the saturation. It still can be identified as pink-red if you use an image editor, but it is now as pink-red as your dress is black/blue.

And do some people clearly see that square as red-pink while others clearly see it as white as paper?

For the people that see blue, the blue is about as deep as the headlines in each post in TL. Not light blue as the background. It's not something reasonably mistaken with white.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42250 Posts
February 28 2015 15:30 GMT
#215
Tumblr, twitter, facebook and even mainstream media has fallen to the dress controversy. But on tl I'm taking a stand.
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25656 Posts
February 28 2015 20:22 GMT
#216
Please leave this thread open, it is harmless
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Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 20:30:27
February 28 2015 20:29 GMT
#217
On March 01 2015 00:25 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 00:23 Fi0na wrote:
On February 28 2015 23:21 llIH wrote:
I still have no idea how anyone can consider that "white" color. Makes no sense. Blue is 100%.

here are some RGB-values from analysing different pixels of the dress:
100/105/129
130/146/182
125/134/160
140/148/184
156/175/200
163/177/211
071/080/112

So yes, while blue is the dominating color, it does not dominate by much. Yes, you get these colors if you use blue and turn on some knobs.

HOWEVER, if you use the HSL model (hue-saturation-lightness) you can quickly find out that the saturation is far less than 50% on the blue for every single one of these probes I took. Which means there is two to three times as much white than there is blue. Add to that the fact that the lightness is always over 50% (even more white) and it is very easy to conclude that white does in fact dominate over blue in this picture. Which is why it is perfectly reasonable to say that you see a white dress that is slightly more blue-ish and grey-ish than the white you are used to.

Now if you would factor in the brightness of the background you could come to the conclusion that the dress is more blue-ish than it appears at first sight. But just from looking at the dress itself it clearly is white. And if you say "but the original piece is actually black/blue" then I can provide you with a splendid picture to illustrate my point:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
This was a full pink-red square. Then I turned up the lightness and turned down the saturation. It still can be identified as pink-red if you use an image editor, but it is now as pink-red as your dress is black/blue.

And do some people clearly see that square as red-pink while others clearly see it as white as paper?

For the people that see blue, the blue is about as deep as the headlines in each post in TL. Not light blue as the background. It's not something reasonably mistaken with white.


Depends on your monitor and what's next to it. Colours are seen in a relative manner, as everyone knows from the "grey squares" optical illusions.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

A and B being the same shade of grey.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_shadow_illusion


Saying it's the same blue as something on TL is irrelevant.
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
February 28 2015 21:17 GMT
#218
On March 01 2015 05:22 KadaverBB wrote:
Please leave this thread open, it is harmless


I think KBB might have made a mighty enemy today
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 23:06:09
February 28 2015 21:47 GMT
#219
chalz stahp
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


User was warned for this post
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
February 28 2015 21:50 GMT
#220
On March 01 2015 06:47 Coagulation wrote:
chalz stahp
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

If this thread stays open, this picture stays too.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
February 28 2015 22:04 GMT
#221
To anyone with photoshop skills: Could you please fake a screenshot of a white-background-golden-letters-tl.net?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10666 Posts
February 28 2015 22:18 GMT
#222
Wtf is the point of this.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States22985 Posts
February 28 2015 22:31 GMT
#223
On March 01 2015 07:18 GGzerG wrote:
Wtf is the point of this.


I personally think everyone would benefit by looking at how they and people around them reacted to this dress thing and compare it to how they react to other controversial/'unimportant' information.

You could learn a lot about yourself and others. Since the facts of the matter are as about as simple as things get, but can still be intensely controversial, how one interprets and reacts to them says a lot about the person IMO.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
February 28 2015 22:34 GMT
#224
On March 01 2015 06:50 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 06:47 Coagulation wrote:
chalz stahp
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

If this thread stays open, this picture stays too.

b-b-but muh TL moderation

OT: just a problem of white-balance. interesting that people perceive the light blue to either straight up white or straight up blue, kind of doing the white balancing in their head.
:)
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
February 28 2015 23:16 GMT
#225
Watched on two different laptops, got two different results. Interesting!
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 23:47:34
February 28 2015 23:47 GMT
#226
On March 01 2015 00:23 Fi0na wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 23:21 llIH wrote:
I still have no idea how anyone can consider that "white" color. Makes no sense. Blue is 100%.

here are some RGB-values from analysing different pixels of the dress:
100/105/129
130/146/182
125/134/160
140/148/184
156/175/200
163/177/211
071/080/112

So yes, while blue is the dominating color, it does not dominate by much. Yes, you get these colors if you use blue and turn on some knobs.

HOWEVER, if you use the HSL model (hue-saturation-lightness) you can quickly find out that the saturation is far less than 50% on the blue for every single one of these probes I took. Which means there is two to three times as much white than there is blue.


Well if we're going by "how does that color look on its own", which as was said several times does not make much sense considering how the brain actually perceives relative colors in a scene, then this post contains the main shades we can see on the lighter part of the dress.

I dare anyone to say these look "white" or "whiter than blue" by any stretch of the imagination. Also that pink red example of yours looks nowhere close to its blue equivalent, but I might've missed the point.
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B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
March 01 2015 00:12 GMT
#227
This must be one big troll. The "trollers" are saying it's white/gold while the "trollees" are scratching their heads.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5582 Posts
March 01 2015 00:27 GMT
#228
On March 01 2015 08:16 Jacenoob wrote:
Watched on two different laptops, got two different results. Interesting!

All I had to do get different results was to stand up.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
March 01 2015 00:30 GMT
#229
Can someone explain why this shit is purple / brown to me and everyones saying that im retarded for thinking this.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
March 01 2015 00:31 GMT
#230
On February 28 2015 22:47 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 22:30 Poopi wrote:
Yeah but the colors on the pictures are indeed gold / light blue. Who cares what the actual color is.


Well when so many people clearly see it as the color it actually is (I do), then it's pretty funny to consider only the other part is right.

It's a lace dress, the light is shining through the lace distorting the colours.
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6633 Posts
March 01 2015 00:36 GMT
#231
Blue and black for me, no doubt about it.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 01 2015 00:54 GMT
#232
Why was this thread reopened? There are tons of videos discussing how people see the dress differently and what the real color is.

(Can we have this closed again? Cuz people will spam this thread until it gets old - which was yesterday)
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Alcathous
Profile Joined December 2014
Netherlands219 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-01 01:07:49
March 01 2015 01:07 GMT
#233
Close this shit. When mainstream news opens up with this, the world is fucked.


Take a stand.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 01 2015 01:34 GMT
#234
On March 01 2015 10:07 Alcathous wrote:
Close this shit. When mainstream news opens up with this, the world is fucked.


Take a stand.


Kwark actually closed this already a few hours ago. :/ what happened mods?
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10653 Posts
March 01 2015 01:46 GMT
#235
Even TL is not safe from this shit.

When I look directly into my monitor at eye-level its White/Gold. But when I kneel down and look up at my monitor it turns blue/black.

Case fucking closed guys.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
March 01 2015 03:14 GMT
#236
Wow, so many people angry at the attention given to this (to the point of closing the thread, no less!). Just chill guys, the interest will fade.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
March 01 2015 03:21 GMT
#237
I've seen this a lot the last few days....I don't get it.. It's a photo with poor white balance.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-01 03:22:43
March 01 2015 03:21 GMT
#238
On March 01 2015 10:34 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 10:07 Alcathous wrote:
Close this shit. When mainstream news opens up with this, the world is fucked.


Take a stand.


Kwark actually closed this already a few hours ago. :/ what happened mods?

KadaverBB is a scumbag.

On March 01 2015 12:21 wo1fwood wrote:
I've seen this a lot the last few days....I don't get it.. It's a photo with poor white balance.

BUT IT'S ACTUALLY BLACK AND BLUE, LOL.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-01 03:28:52
March 01 2015 03:26 GMT
#239
On March 01 2015 12:21 wo1fwood wrote:
I've seen this a lot the last few days....I don't get it.. It's a photo with poor white balance.

The point is that people see diferent colors by looking at the same image. Not that they see the same color but have diferent interpertations of what they see, or diferent colors depending on the brightness of the monitor of who is watching.

It's an optical illusion that affects only a portion of the viewers for some reason, unlike all those popular color tricks you see online, and it happened on a random shitty photo of a dress instead of a carefully prepared picture.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-01 06:24:27
March 01 2015 06:22 GMT
#240
On March 01 2015 12:21 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 10:34 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On March 01 2015 10:07 Alcathous wrote:
Close this shit. When mainstream news opens up with this, the world is fucked.


Take a stand.


Kwark actually closed this already a few hours ago. :/ what happened mods?

KadaverBB is a scumbag.


Lol scumbag? That's a bit harsh.

I wonder if age has anything to do with it. I heard some theory about it, although I haven't read it myself. I find it interesting thought that the 3 or 4 people under 30 I've spoken to see blue and black, I see lavender and gold (early 30's) and anyone over ~40+ has seen white and gold. Anyone not fit that pattern?
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5278 Posts
March 01 2015 07:05 GMT
#241
On March 01 2015 09:30 Capped wrote:
Can someone explain why this shit is purple / brown to me and everyones saying that im retarded for thinking this.
recalibrate the colors of your display or buy a new one.

i'd say people voting for white and gold are the ones you see getting duped every-time in those street magic shows. clueless and fairytale believers!.
the ones voting for black and blue are so eager to be right that reality becomes irrelevant. just paint them a context and they'll start a jihad in its name!.
the ones voting other are the ones pulling the strings or have really bad displays.
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boon2537
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States905 Posts
March 01 2015 08:51 GMT
#242
Pretty good explanation of what's going on.

OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 01 2015 10:00 GMT
#243
Wow this thread is 13 pages long already? You never fail to impress me TL people d:
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-01 10:14:15
March 01 2015 10:13 GMT
#244
On March 01 2015 19:00 OtherWorld wrote:
Wow this thread is 13 pages long already? You never fail to impress me TL people d:


Well mostly because half the posts are from people not interested at all in the subject, but lacking the skill to dodge the single thread by not clicking on it.

"Fuck, I clicked it! Well might as well complain then."

And here I thought Starcraft players were good at microcontrol.
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Yurie
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March 01 2015 11:50 GMT
#245
On March 01 2015 15:22 Subversive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 12:21 Blargh wrote:
On March 01 2015 10:34 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On March 01 2015 10:07 Alcathous wrote:
Close this shit. When mainstream news opens up with this, the world is fucked.


Take a stand.


Kwark actually closed this already a few hours ago. :/ what happened mods?

KadaverBB is a scumbag.


Lol scumbag? That's a bit harsh.

I wonder if age has anything to do with it. I heard some theory about it, although I haven't read it myself. I find it interesting thought that the 3 or 4 people under 30 I've spoken to see blue and black, I see lavender and gold (early 30's) and anyone over ~40+ has seen white and gold. Anyone not fit that pattern?


Below 30 see blueish white and goldish.
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden879 Posts
March 01 2015 12:36 GMT
#246
im 22 i see white and gold
ClanRH.TV
Profile Joined July 2010
United States462 Posts
March 01 2015 12:37 GMT
#247
I apologize if someone already posted this explanation but I didn't see it in the pages I looked through. Really quick but thorough explanation. The rest of the channel has some great videos:

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Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
March 01 2015 14:39 GMT
#248
On March 01 2015 21:37 ClanRH.TV wrote:
I apologize if someone already posted this explanation but I didn't see it in the pages I looked through. Really quick but thorough explanation. The rest of the channel has some great videos:
*snip*

See, that's the video that really blew my mind. The picture on the first page of this thread looked light blue and gold to me, without question. Then I opened the video, saw the image and went "That's not the same image. That's clearly black and blue."

So I opened the image I had saved from this page, and saw it was clearly gold and light blue. Then I returned to the video and saw that the dress was... Gold and light blue, before slowly fading back to black and blue. I don't even.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 01 2015 15:07 GMT
#249
^congrats, you just discovered that what we see is partly a fictional contruction created by our brain.
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Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
March 02 2015 09:38 GMT
#250
On March 01 2015 23:39 Ljas wrote: Gold and light blue, before slowly fading back to black and blue. I don't even.


Yeah, that's what I saw the other night, after reliably seeing it blue/black in many different contexts. I glanced at it on my phone and saw white/gold which gradually faded back to blue/black.
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 01:37:20
March 03 2015 01:28 GMT
#251
Meant to post this on page 2 but the thread was closed http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-one-agrees-color-dress/

Also to add to that I had this theory:

It has to do with a number of factors: A) What the brightness size etc of your screen. B) How the lighting is around you where ever you are C) What version of the photo you are looking at. D) How you perceive the background of the image in relation to it's context.

I also recently came across this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrachromacy

Apparently some people have more or less cones in their eyes for seeing different hues.


https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/25-people-have-4th-cone-see-colors-p-prof-diana-derval

I can see almost all the colors here. (about 33 or so out of 39)

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Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
March 03 2015 01:44 GMT
#252
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
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On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


Someone should buy this dress and then go out on broad daylight and focus some highbeam lights at it as well. I'd imagine you can recreate the white/gold appearance again.
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
March 03 2015 01:56 GMT
#253
On February 28 2015 03:46 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Talking about optical illusions, the orange middle square and the top brown square are actually exactly the same color. It's impossible to believe at first.

[image loading]



confirmed [image loading]
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 05:44:35
March 03 2015 05:42 GMT
#254
desktop monitor, white/gold dress with peculiar light influence. on note4, blue/black.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 07:01:40
March 03 2015 07:01 GMT
#255
On March 03 2015 10:28 MarlieChurphy wrote:
I also recently came across this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrachromacy

Apparently some people have more or less cones in their eyes for seeing different hues.


https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/25-people-have-4th-cone-see-colors-p-prof-diana-derval

I can see almost all the colors here. (about 33 or so out of 39)


Interesting stuff. I do see 36-39 colors here depending how hard I try seeing the different "sticks" and if I zoom in a bit or not.

I'm not convinced this has any strong relationship to what colors are perceived to be on the dress, though a poll would be interesting.
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 03 2015 07:31 GMT
#256
On March 03 2015 16:01 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 10:28 MarlieChurphy wrote:
I also recently came across this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrachromacy

Apparently some people have more or less cones in their eyes for seeing different hues.


https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/25-people-have-4th-cone-see-colors-p-prof-diana-derval

I can see almost all the colors here. (about 33 or so out of 39)


Interesting stuff. I do see 36-39 colors here depending how hard I try seeing the different "sticks" and if I zoom in a bit or not.

I'm not convinced this has any strong relationship to what colors are perceived to be on the dress, though a poll would be interesting.

I saw around 35 colours on that test, but still can't see anything else than white and gold on the dress, contrary to what the link says.
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
March 03 2015 08:02 GMT
#257
oh no. not here, too D:
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5278 Posts
March 03 2015 08:32 GMT
#258
On March 03 2015 10:56 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 03:46 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Talking about optical illusions, the orange middle square and the top brown square are actually exactly the same color. It's impossible to believe at first.

[image loading]



confirmed [image loading]

that's just fake.
1) you can not replicate it irl. the same cube with the same colors and there's no brown turning into orange.
2) every other color on that cube, when in shadow, goes slightly more gray, darker; but no, oh noes, brown goes orange ...
the software who made that image had a bug.

i see easy 35 colors in that other link.
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 09:01:56
March 03 2015 09:00 GMT
#259
that video is spot on. When I am indoors I see it blue, when I look into the sun it turns gold.


Same reason why it's funny to see people argue IRL about topics their brain made quick generalizations about, or why some people say they are realists

The reality is far too complex to make sense of it all, so brain uses shortcuts generalizations and tricks to interpret it and this is just one more of many examples.
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 09:10:24
March 03 2015 09:06 GMT
#260
the pixels (or, the reality) say hi: i'm blue and brown. if that's to complex for you then fine, live in Oz.

Edit: what i didn't get from the start is that people were seeing light blue/gray and brown/goldish but then tried to GUESS what's the REAL color behind that fake blue/gray - brown/goldish by virtually(in their minds) adding different backgrounds.
why, why would you do that?.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
March 03 2015 09:47 GMT
#261
Because we intuitively try to infer what color we believe the actual objects are. That has been explained a lot by scientists these last few days.

Like when I first saw the dress I did realize the black looked kinda goldish but my brain was 100% sure that was just the result from the reflected light so at no point I would've said "gold" or even brown. My brain substracted that naturally.

Same goes for people "missing" the blue from the lighter part of the dress I guess (blue shade being substracted).
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Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 10:52:43
March 03 2015 10:50 GMT
#262
On March 03 2015 17:32 xM(Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 10:56 MarlieChurphy wrote:
On February 28 2015 03:46 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Talking about optical illusions, the orange middle square and the top brown square are actually exactly the same color. It's impossible to believe at first.

[image loading]



confirmed [image loading]

that's just fake.
1) you can not replicate it irl. the same cube with the same colors and there's no brown turning into orange.
2) every other color on that cube, when in shadow, goes slightly more gray, darker; but no, oh noes, brown goes orange ...
the software who made that image had a bug.


Dude, you're completely missing the point of that image

The image isn't trying to prove that brown turns orange in the shade. It's demonstrating how your eyes interpret the exact same RGB pixel colour differently depending on context.

According to Photoshop, the on-screen RGB value of both squares is 148,90,0. But when you look at the square on the side, your brain thinks: "In order to look like that in the shade, that square would have to be bright orange." When you look at the square on the top, your brain thinks: "In order to look like that in bright light, that square would have to be dark brown."

In other words, your brain 'knows' that if you picked that cube up and turned it so the side was on top, the centre square would look much brighter than the one that's on top now. Conversely, it 'knows' that if you turned the cube so that the top was on the side, the centre square would look much darker. And if this were a real object, and you actually did pick it up and turn it, your brain would be right*. But it's still the case that the amount of light reaching your eye from the side square is EXACTLY the same as the amount reaching your eye from the top square.

*unless the squares ARE the same physical colour, but there's a small square shade positioned off-screen between the top one and the light, and a tiny square spotlight aimed at the one on the side...
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 11:49:39
March 03 2015 10:53 GMT
#263
@PoP
pff, that never happened to me.
i saw it light blue-gray and light black-gold-gray(brown-ish) right from the start and it never changed.
i have not seen it and i can not see it white - gold nor black - blue. + Show Spoiler +
i might be dead inside or something


Edit:
@Umpteen: i took that image, opened it in Paint, colored the top side(horizontal) black and the bottom side(vertical) in white. the color of the middle squares looked identical. pro skills+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.
there's no doubt now that Photoshop is bugged , it sucks at imitating natural lighting or lighting in general.

now, you might think that the 2 situations are similar, given that pixel values say one thing and the human perception another but i disagree . that cube is entirely virtually generated while that dress was a photo of a real dress + real lightning. (real = not computer generated).

plus, in that cube image, the white and black contrasts are actually there, but for that dress picture, the brain adds them just because ...
some add more white and others more black. <- that's a personality trait read right there.

Edit1: if i do the same thing with the picture of the dress
with black + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

with white + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

its color never changes for me (or maybe very slightly).
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Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 09:49:25
March 04 2015 09:32 GMT
#264
On March 03 2015 19:53 xM(Z wrote:
@PoP
pff, that never happened to me.
i saw it light blue-gray and light black-gold-gray(brown-ish) right from the start and it never changed.
i have not seen it and i can not see it white - gold nor black - blue. + Show Spoiler +
i might be dead inside or something


Edit:
@Umpteen: i took that image, opened it in Paint, colored the top side(horizontal) black and the bottom side(vertical) in white. the color of the middle squares looked identical. pro skills+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.
there's no doubt now that Photoshop is bugged , it sucks at imitating natural lighting or lighting in general.


I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. A plain white or black background is not enough for your brain to infer the lighting conditions, which is why the squares look the same in your edited version. What the hell does Photoshop have to do with anything?

The point you still don't seem to grasp is that if it WERE a photo of a real cube, the two centre squares would have to be different colours in order to emit the same light to your eye under their two different lighting conditions. Your brain takes that into account, and uses what it knows about lighting to reverse-engineer what the original colours must be.

Think: suppose I took a real cube and took photos of it, mixing paints and repainting the two centre squares until they were the exact same RGB value in the photograph. I would need to paint the shadowed square a light colour, and the brightly lit square a dark colour to make that happen, yes? Your brain knows that instinctively, and would 'see' the squares as different colours even though the RGB values on screen were identical.

now, you might think that the 2 situations are similar, given that pixel values say one thing and the human perception another but i disagree . that cube is entirely virtually generated while that dress was a photo of a real dress + real lightning. (real = not computer generated).


...dude, you're just looking at RGB values on a computer screen in both cases. The point is that the 'cube' picture is rendered sufficiently realistically to persuade your brain that it's looking at a three-dimensional object lit from above. Consequently your brain interprets identical pixel values as different colours in different parts of the image. Destroy the illusion of a 3D lit object and your brain 'corrects' its interpretation and you see the colours as the same.


Edit1: if i do the same thing with the picture of the dress
with black + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

with white + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

its color never changes for me (or maybe very slightly).


Why would you expect it to, when the colours in the 'cube' image didn't look different on a pure white vs pure black background?

The original picture is sufficiently ambiguous that the majority of people's brains pick the wrong interpretation (white/gold). That's all. It's nothing to do with whether it's a photo of a real object or not. I'm pretty sure someone could render an identical image of a computer-modelled dress if they could be bothered to.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28084 Posts
March 04 2015 09:49 GMT
#265
So weird when I look and see it one way, then 10 minutes later it's different
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Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 11:33:38
March 04 2015 11:32 GMT
#266
Pick out the colours with any image tool and you'll see that it's brownish gold and light blue. It doesn't matter how your eyes are fooled by whatever mechanic when you look at the picture, the actual colours (of the picture, what the dress looks like in real life is irrelevant) are not white and not black, but brownish gold and light blue.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
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Last Edited: 2015-03-04 11:55:06
March 04 2015 11:48 GMT
#267
Is more like where your eyes spent more times in the past. I already see a huge difference between natural light (daylight) and "artificial" light (lamp, bulb).

Your eyes take the one more in account in to your brain (for experience etc). In other words: If you are rather a real life boy, you will see it in gold&white (experience with sun and shades). If you rather a nerd (even on daylight, window down, bulb on) you will see it as black&blue.

Most people do activate bulb even on daylight and didnt notice it. I see it, even if I dont know where the bulb is. The color between natural and artificial is scary for me. My eyes sense aritificial light as annoy.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 12:06:14
March 04 2015 12:02 GMT
#268
On March 04 2015 20:48 Dingodile wrote:
Is more like where your eyes spent more times in the past. I already see a huge difference between natural light (daylight) and "artificial" light (lamp, bulb).

Your eyes take the one more in account in to your brain (for experience etc). In other words: If you are rather a real life boy, you will see it in gold&white (experience with sun and shades). If you rather a nerd (even on daylight, window down, bulb on) you will see it as black&blue.


How does that make any sense though? As was said before that pic has a lot more chances to look blue/black while imagining it in a very sunish/yellowish light-intensive setting. That sounds more like something people used to being outside would be used to.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
March 04 2015 12:05 GMT
#269
On March 04 2015 20:32 Thorakh wrote:
Pick out the colours with any image tool and you'll see that it's brownish gold and light blue. It doesn't matter how your eyes are fooled by whatever mechanic when you look at the picture, the actual colours (of the picture, what the dress looks like in real life is irrelevant) are not white and not black, but brownish gold and light blue.


Indeed but it's not really the point. When being asked what color an object is in a picture you'll try to infer what the actual color that object is depending on the setting and how your brain interprets it. That's the really interesting part about it, not the "computer colors".
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44043 Posts
March 04 2015 12:26 GMT
#270
On March 01 2015 20:50 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 15:22 Subversive wrote:
On March 01 2015 12:21 Blargh wrote:
On March 01 2015 10:34 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On March 01 2015 10:07 Alcathous wrote:
Close this shit. When mainstream news opens up with this, the world is fucked.


Take a stand.


Kwark actually closed this already a few hours ago. :/ what happened mods?

KadaverBB is a scumbag.


Lol scumbag? That's a bit harsh.

I wonder if age has anything to do with it. I heard some theory about it, although I haven't read it myself. I find it interesting thought that the 3 or 4 people under 30 I've spoken to see blue and black, I see lavender and gold (early 30's) and anyone over ~40+ has seen white and gold. Anyone not fit that pattern?


Below 30 see blueish white and goldish.


I'm 26 and I see blue and black. I know at least a dozen people my age (+/- 2 years) who see blue and black as well, and a dozen others my age who see white and gold.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44043 Posts
March 04 2015 12:28 GMT
#271
On March 04 2015 20:32 Thorakh wrote:
Pick out the colours with any image tool and you'll see that it's brownish gold and light blue. It doesn't matter how your eyes are fooled by whatever mechanic when you look at the picture, the actual colours (of the picture, what the dress looks like in real life is irrelevant) are not white and not black, but brownish gold and light blue.


The real colors of the dress (blue and black) don't have to match the image tool colors of the purposely-misleading, illusion-esque photo.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
March 04 2015 13:01 GMT
#272
On March 04 2015 21:02 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 20:48 Dingodile wrote:
Is more like where your eyes spent more times in the past. I already see a huge difference between natural light (daylight) and "artificial" light (lamp, bulb).

Your eyes take the one more in account in to your brain (for experience etc). In other words: If you are rather a real life boy, you will see it in gold&white (experience with sun and shades). If you rather a nerd (even on daylight, window down, bulb on) you will see it as black&blue.


How does that make any sense though? As was said before that pic has a lot more chances to look blue/black while imagining it in a very sunish/yellowish light-intensive setting. That sounds more like something people used to being outside would be used to.

Thats the difference between gold&white and black&blue! sunnish=natural, yellowish= bulb.
It really comes what "colour" you see the background (actually your brain) of that picture. I see/sense that "colour" as a very sunny day (40°C).
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 04 2015 13:28 GMT
#273
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44043 Posts
March 04 2015 13:30 GMT
#274
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 13:51:58
March 04 2015 13:50 GMT
#275
On March 04 2015 22:01 Dingodile wrote:
Thats the difference between gold&white and black&blue! sunnish=natural, yellowish= bulb.

It really comes what "colour" you see the background (actually your brain) of that picture. I see/sense that "colour" as a very sunny day (40°C).


Still doesn't make much sense to me: natural light wouldn't make a blue dress look completely white, no matter how white the light source is (sunlight does look a tiny bit yellowish to the human eye anyway, though indeed much less so than a bulb).

For the record I see blue and I've been convinced from the beginning that the light coming from the right side of the picture is sunlight.

I think it's more a matter of whether you consider that sunlight (coming from the right angle) or the shade coming from the left angle as the bigger source of color alteration.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 04 2015 14:06 GMT
#276
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.

What are the real colours on your monitor? Hint: it's not blue and black.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20278 Posts
March 04 2015 14:18 GMT
#277
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.


The pixels are a browny gold and a slightly blue tinted white
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44043 Posts
March 04 2015 14:39 GMT
#278
On March 04 2015 23:18 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.


The pixels are a browny gold and a slightly blue tinted white


And the dress is blue and black...
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 14:54:39
March 04 2015 14:41 GMT
#279
On March 04 2015 22:50 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 22:01 Dingodile wrote:
Thats the difference between gold&white and black&blue! sunnish=natural, yellowish= bulb.

It really comes what "colour" you see the background (actually your brain) of that picture. I see/sense that "colour" as a very sunny day (40°C).


Still doesn't make much sense to me: natural light wouldn't make a blue dress look completely white, no matter how white the light source is (sunlight does look a tiny bit yellowish to the human eye anyway, though indeed much less so than a bulb).

For the record I see blue and I've been convinced from the beginning that the light coming from the right side of the picture is sunlight.

I think it's more a matter of whether you consider that sunlight (coming from the right angle) or the shade coming from the left angle as the bigger source of color alteration.

Well you are trying to understand how blue turns white (your first sentence). Thats the mistake, do NOT retroactive accounting unless you see it black&blue.
I see white dress (real colour) because dress is under a shade (black/blue/violet-sunshield was my assume and sun from left angle) changes from white to a very light blue/violet tinted white. Dress is in shade, background has sun.

edit: if you see it black&blue then tell me the context/background (ofcourse before you know the answer)?!
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 04 2015 15:03 GMT
#280
On March 04 2015 23:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 23:18 Cyro wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.


The pixels are a browny gold and a slightly blue tinted white


And the dress is blue and black...

So...what if it is?

Dingodile's point is that he belives that people percieves colour differences depending on whether their eyes are attuned to outdoor/indoor light. I reply and clarify that that I, like many others, see the true colours of the picture, thus rendering his point invalid for many people.

You again reply that the dress of which the image was taken of is blue and black. I suppose you will repeat that the dress is blue and black ad infinitum even despite what the colours of the image actually is.Ok...I suspect that thinking logicaly isn't your forte.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:10:40
March 04 2015 15:10 GMT
#281
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.
Not on the picture. The real colours of the picture are brownish gold and light blue. There is nothing else to it. If you see any black or white, your eyes are playing tricks on you.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44043 Posts
March 04 2015 15:14 GMT
#282
On March 05 2015 00:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 23:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 23:18 Cyro wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.


The pixels are a browny gold and a slightly blue tinted white


And the dress is blue and black...

So...what if it is?

Dingodile's point is that he belives that people percieves colour differences depending on whether their eyes are attuned to outdoor/indoor light. I reply and clarify that that I, like many others, see the true colours of the picture, thus rendering his point invalid for many people.

You again reply that the dress of which the image was taken of is blue and black. I suppose you will repeat that the dress is blue and black ad infinitum even despite what the colours of the image actually is.Ok...I suspect that thinking logicaly isn't your forte.


I wasn't responding to Dingodile; I was responding to your statement that blue and brown were the real colors of the dress, instead of blue and black. I was correcting your mistake of brown instead of black. You may not appreciate the correction, but accusing me of not thinking logically is a rather random and personal attack Thanks!
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
March 04 2015 15:15 GMT
#283
On March 05 2015 00:10 Thorakh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.
Not on the picture. The real colours of the picture are brownish gold and light blue. There is nothing else to it. If you see any black or white, your eyes are playing tricks on you.

You know we are talking about the real colours?!
I see gold and white on that picture but still have trouble if this is the real color (too). I cant find this gold and white dress on amazon. I only found in black and blue, whose field reports are funny as hell.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 04 2015 15:16 GMT
#284
Noone actually sees true black, or even something close to it. People see an washed up black that looks brownish because of the shitty picture quality, but they still say they see black and blue because that's how black looks under these kinds of lighting.

The whole debate about it being brown instead of black is missing the point. The interesting bit about this is that some people can see an optical illusion that turns the dress white and some cannot. Arguing about black vs brown is like arguing wether a blueish green color is blue or green.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44043 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:20:13
March 04 2015 15:17 GMT
#285
On March 05 2015 00:10 Thorakh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.
Not on the picture. The real colours of the picture are brownish gold and light blue. There is nothing else to it. If you see any black or white, your eyes are playing tricks on you.


It's been explained many times over that the color of the picture's pixels are not necessarily (and in this case, clearly not) the same as the real colors of the dress, because of the lighting, shadows, etc. I think at this point, people are just recycling complaints about it being an illusion or misleading, which was the entire point of the picture to begin with. People are seeing the picture of the dress as a whole bunch of colors based on their perception and color contrasts (and also based on pixel colors), but the actual dress (like, in real life) is blue and black. Not blue and brown, not gold and white, not red and green, etc. That's all I was saying/ responding to
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 04 2015 15:21 GMT
#286
This is a black wall under direct lighthting:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It goes from basically white to black. This debate is like picking a close up section somewhat close to the lighting souce and argue wether you can still tell the wall is black or you must say it is golden because that's what the the color of the pixels for that particular section.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:26:09
March 04 2015 15:25 GMT
#287
I KNOW it is a dark blue and black dress. The PICTURE is brown and light blue however. Therefore, if you see black and dark blue your eyes are playing tricks on you.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 04 2015 15:27 GMT
#288
What's the title of the thred?

People are just answering the question that was asked, both here and when the image started circulating the web.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44043 Posts
March 04 2015 15:28 GMT
#289
On March 05 2015 00:27 SKC wrote:
What's the title of the thred?

People are just answering the question that was asked, both here and when the image started circulating the web.


Exactly
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Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:29:53
March 04 2015 15:29 GMT
#290
On March 05 2015 00:27 SKC wrote:
What's the title of the thred?

People are just answering the question that was asked, both here and when the image started circulating the web.
People are reporting they see black and white. There is no black and no white.
Ben1500
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom180 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:32:39
March 04 2015 15:29 GMT
#291
I saw gold and white but a few days later I see blue and black, can someone explain to me why that is?
Edit: And its gold and white again.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:33:25
March 04 2015 15:30 GMT
#292
On March 05 2015 00:29 Thorakh wrote:
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On March 05 2015 00:27 SKC wrote:
What's the title of the thred?

People are just answering the question that was asked, both here and when the image started circulating the web.
People are reporting they see black and white. There is no black and no white.

They are reporting they see a black dress. You don't have to see black to know how black under lighting looks. And it can be brownish. People that see white see an optical illusion that people that see blue don't, and it actually looks extremelly white.

I don't think anyone knows why some people see it and some don't, or why some people stop seeing it. That is what makes this so unique. Optical illusion pictures are ussually universal.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:32:46
March 04 2015 15:31 GMT
#293
On March 05 2015 00:21 SKC wrote:
This is a black wall under direct lighthting:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It goes from basically white to black. This debate is like picking a close up section somewhat close to the lighting souce and argue wether you can still tell the wall is black or you must say it is golden because that's what the the color of the pixels for that particular section.

Oh wow that picture. Look at the bulb, gold and white around the bulb. Maybe they put a bulb under that dress outside?!
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:37:22
March 04 2015 15:34 GMT
#294
On March 05 2015 00:31 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 00:21 SKC wrote:
This is a black wall under direct lighthting:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It goes from basically white to black. This debate is like picking a close up section somewhat close to the lighting souce and argue wether you can still tell the wall is black or you must say it is golden because that's what the the color of the pixels for that particular section.

Oh wow that picture. Look at the bulb, gold and white around the bulb. Maybe they put a bulb under that dress outside?!


I think the it's called the sun

or it might be indoor lighting..
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 04 2015 15:51 GMT
#295
On March 05 2015 00:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 00:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 04 2015 23:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 23:18 Cyro wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.


The pixels are a browny gold and a slightly blue tinted white


And the dress is blue and black...

So...what if it is?

Dingodile's point is that he belives that people percieves colour differences depending on whether their eyes are attuned to outdoor/indoor light. I reply and clarify that that I, like many others, see the true colours of the picture, thus rendering his point invalid for many people.

You again reply that the dress of which the image was taken of is blue and black. I suppose you will repeat that the dress is blue and black ad infinitum even despite what the colours of the image actually is.Ok...I suspect that thinking logicaly isn't your forte.


I wasn't responding to Dingodile; I was responding to your statement that blue and brown were the real colors of the dress, instead of blue and black. I was correcting your mistake of brown instead of black. You may not appreciate the correction, but accusing me of not thinking logically is a rather random and personal attack Thanks!

And I am responding to Dingodile. When did I ever say what the real colours of the dress was? I clarified twice that I was talking about the colours seen in the image, yet you insist yet again that the colours of the dress is blue and black. At this point you are just being deliberately obtuse. Thanks!
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 16:05:09
March 04 2015 16:03 GMT
#296
On March 04 2015 23:41 Dingodile wrote:
Well you are trying to understand how blue turns white (your first sentence). Thats the mistake, do NOT retroactive accounting unless you see it black&blue.
I see white dress (real colour) because dress is under a shade (black/blue/violet-sunshield was my assume and sun from left angle) changes from white to a very light blue/violet tinted white. Dress is in shade, background has sun.

edit: if you see it black&blue then tell me the context/background (ofcourse before you know the answer)?!


Background has sun, front/side also has sun, sun hits dress, black part therefore looks goldish on the side and blue part looks like lighter blue. Dress is black and blue.

And of course I didn't mean "blue turns white" literally. I meant it as "seeing it white even though it's actually blue".
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
March 04 2015 16:04 GMT
#297
On March 05 2015 00:16 SKC wrote:
Noone actually sees true black, or even something close to it. People see an washed up black that looks brownish because of the shitty picture quality, but they still say they see black and blue because that's how black looks under these kinds of lighting.

The whole debate about it being brown instead of black is missing the point. The interesting bit about this is that some people can see an optical illusion that turns the dress white and some cannot. Arguing about black vs brown is like arguing wether a blueish green color is blue or green.


This 100%
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
March 04 2015 16:05 GMT
#298
On March 05 2015 00:34 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 00:31 Dingodile wrote:
On March 05 2015 00:21 SKC wrote:
This is a black wall under direct lighthting:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It goes from basically white to black. This debate is like picking a close up section somewhat close to the lighting souce and argue wether you can still tell the wall is black or you must say it is golden because that's what the the color of the pixels for that particular section.

Oh wow that picture. Look at the bulb, gold and white around the bulb. Maybe they put a bulb under that dress outside?!


I think the it's called the sun

or it might be indoor lighting..

protest?
sun and indoor lightining aren't the same. I understand indoor lighting as bulb/lamp.

It is really about perception of that yellow colour (indoor or outdoor yellow) in background.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44043 Posts
March 04 2015 16:47 GMT
#299
On March 05 2015 00:51 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 00:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 05 2015 00:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 04 2015 23:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 23:18 Cyro wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.


The pixels are a browny gold and a slightly blue tinted white


And the dress is blue and black...

So...what if it is?

Dingodile's point is that he belives that people percieves colour differences depending on whether their eyes are attuned to outdoor/indoor light. I reply and clarify that that I, like many others, see the true colours of the picture, thus rendering his point invalid for many people.

You again reply that the dress of which the image was taken of is blue and black. I suppose you will repeat that the dress is blue and black ad infinitum even despite what the colours of the image actually is.Ok...I suspect that thinking logicaly isn't your forte.


I wasn't responding to Dingodile; I was responding to your statement that blue and brown were the real colors of the dress, instead of blue and black. I was correcting your mistake of brown instead of black. You may not appreciate the correction, but accusing me of not thinking logically is a rather random and personal attack Thanks!

And I am responding to Dingodile. When did I ever say what the real colours of the dress was? I clarified twice that I was talking about the colours seen in the image, yet you insist yet again that the colours of the dress is blue and black. At this point you are just being deliberately obtuse. Thanks!


You said the "real colours" were "blue&brown", which is what I replied to in the first place -.-' So now we've come full circle. I'm not sure if you're trying to troll me or you just have really bad memory, but I don't think there's anything else to add to your correction. If you're honestly still confused about the colors, SKC lays it out really nicely a few posts above mine. Maybe that'll help you more.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20278 Posts
March 04 2015 17:19 GMT
#300
On March 04 2015 23:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 23:18 Cyro wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.


The pixels are a browny gold and a slightly blue tinted white


And the dress is blue and black...


Yea, but the pixels are a browny gold and slightly blue tinted white

The picture isn't a good representation of the actual color of the dress. The picture is white(blue tinted)+gold, but the actual dress is blue+black.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44043 Posts
March 04 2015 17:40 GMT
#301
On March 05 2015 02:19 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 23:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 23:18 Cyro wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.


The pixels are a browny gold and a slightly blue tinted white


And the dress is blue and black...


Yea, but the pixels are a browny gold and slightly blue tinted white

The picture isn't a good representation of the actual color of the dress. The picture is white(blue tinted)+gold, but the actual dress is blue+black.


I know
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 17:53:23
March 04 2015 17:48 GMT
#302
On March 05 2015 02:19 Cyro wrote:
The picture is white(blue tinted)+gold


It's clearly blue (and brown), not white.

Still surprised anyone can see this as white (even on the dress) but I guess same goes to the other side with black/gold (though most of the dress is really dark brown which to me looks way closer to black than any of the shades of blue look white).

Again, computer colors is not the point of this thread anyway.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 18:10:09
March 04 2015 18:08 GMT
#303
Someone on YouTube posted two (bad) photoshops of the dress picture under clearly different lighting conditions:

http://i.imgur.com/pIQIm9I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xA9DV3x.jpg

Comparison:
http://i.imgur.com/VLb9XQO.jpg

Exactly the same colors used on both.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 18:30:53
March 04 2015 18:27 GMT
#304
On March 05 2015 01:03 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 23:41 Dingodile wrote:
Well you are trying to understand how blue turns white (your first sentence). Thats the mistake, do NOT retroactive accounting unless you see it black&blue.
I see white dress (real colour) because dress is under a shade (black/blue/violet-sunshield was my assume and sun from left angle) changes from white to a very light blue/violet tinted white. Dress is in shade, background has sun.

edit: if you see it black&blue then tell me the context/background (ofcourse before you know the answer)?!


Background has sun, front/side also has sun, sun hits dress, black part therefore looks goldish on the side and blue part looks like lighter blue. Dress is black and blue.

And of course I didn't mean "blue turns white" literally. I meant it as "seeing it white even though it's actually blue".

I dont see that sun hits dress. dress is at shadow unlike the background.

Edit: Do you mean sun hits dress from behind? I was thinking about sun forward left angle. I highly doubt that sun hits from behind, dress should have more brightness in that case I think.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 04 2015 18:37 GMT
#305
On March 05 2015 01:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 00:51 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 05 2015 00:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 05 2015 00:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 04 2015 23:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 23:18 Cyro wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.


The pixels are a browny gold and a slightly blue tinted white


And the dress is blue and black...

So...what if it is?

Dingodile's point is that he belives that people percieves colour differences depending on whether their eyes are attuned to outdoor/indoor light. I reply and clarify that that I, like many others, see the true colours of the picture, thus rendering his point invalid for many people.

You again reply that the dress of which the image was taken of is blue and black. I suppose you will repeat that the dress is blue and black ad infinitum even despite what the colours of the image actually is.Ok...I suspect that thinking logicaly isn't your forte.


I wasn't responding to Dingodile; I was responding to your statement that blue and brown were the real colors of the dress, instead of blue and black. I was correcting your mistake of brown instead of black. You may not appreciate the correction, but accusing me of not thinking logically is a rather random and personal attack Thanks!

And I am responding to Dingodile. When did I ever say what the real colours of the dress was? I clarified twice that I was talking about the colours seen in the image, yet you insist yet again that the colours of the dress is blue and black. At this point you are just being deliberately obtuse. Thanks!


You said the "real colours" were "blue&brown", which is what I replied to in the first place -.-' So now we've come full circle. I'm not sure if you're trying to troll me or you just have really bad memory, but I don't think there's anything else to add to your correction. If you're honestly still confused about the colors, SKC lays it out really nicely a few posts above mine. Maybe that'll help you more.

This is a forum with recorded posts. I've clarified twice that I am refering to the image, yet you insist I am talkign about the dress. You are so dearly confused or purposely obstinate. Either way, there really isn't a point to talk with someone who despite recorded posts insists that one party was talking about something they did not, in order to "prove" themselves right.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20278 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 18:49:14
March 04 2015 18:48 GMT
#306
Still surprised anyone can see this as white (even on the dress)


Because there's a huge amount of red and green in the color. It's not flat white (100/100/100) but it's much closer to flat white than it is to pure blue (0/0/100). It's clearly blue tinted, but white is the dominant color (to what my eyes originally saw, and via digital examination of the pic)

On March 05 2015 03:08 PoP wrote:
Someone on YouTube posted two (bad) photoshops of the dress picture under clearly different lighting conditions:

http://i.imgur.com/pIQIm9I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xA9DV3x.jpg

Comparison:
http://i.imgur.com/VLb9XQO.jpg

Exactly the same colors used on both.


Nice
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
March 04 2015 19:12 GMT
#307
On March 05 2015 03:27 Dingodile wrote:
I dont see that sun hits dress. dress is at shadow unlike the background.

Edit: Do you mean sun hits dress from behind? I was thinking about sun forward left angle. I highly doubt that sun hits from behind, dress should have more brightness in that case I think.


I don't know if that's the same sun as the light we can see on the background, but it's light coming from somewhere on the front and/or side. If you look at the dark part on top of the dress, it's definitely hit by light on the rightmost part of that.

Actually a whole "column" of light can be perceived towards the middle (slightly towards the left) of the whole dress.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 19:26:11
March 04 2015 19:23 GMT
#308
On March 05 2015 03:48 Cyro wrote:
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Still surprised anyone can see this as white (even on the dress)


Because there's a huge amount of red and green in the color. It's not flat white (100/100/100) but it's much closer to flat white than it is to pure blue (0/0/100). It's clearly blue tinted, but white is the dominant color (to what my eyes originally saw, and via digital examination of the pic)


Well I'm not a color expert but every article/document/video I've seen using photoshop or similar tools (including tweets from the Adobe company itself during the big buzz) have mentioned the color is absolutely blue (other being (dark) brown), no question about it. I would also gladly eat a hat if anyone with normal eyes would ever think "white" looking at the rectangles I posted earlier. Maybe grey/blue, skyblue (for the first one) or something, but that's it.

But this is a totally different "debate" from the actual topic of this thread, and a much less fascinating one.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20278 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 19:29:41
March 04 2015 19:28 GMT
#309
I sampled one color a few days ago

it was 131, 140, 195.

White would have been 131, 131, 131 - but there was a very very slight bias towards green, and a more heavy bias towards blue.

Blue would have been 0, 0, 195. The 131 and 140 are extremely significant. It doesn't look solid white when placed against a light background, but it's miles away from blue (especially when placed on backgrounds of every color)
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 20:07:37
March 04 2015 19:36 GMT
#310
http://www.colorhexa.com/838cc3

#838cc3 color description : Slightly desaturated blue

http://hex.wikimix.info/en/color-838cc3

The hexadecimal color #838cc3 is a color blue whose [...]

http://encycolorpedia.com/838cc3

"The hexadecimal color code #838cc3 is a medium light shade of blue. [...]

etc etc

Can people at least agree on something in this thread
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 04 2015 20:19 GMT
#311
There is more than one shade of blue, wtf. Next thing people are going to say TL's background isn't blue.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 05 2015 00:04 GMT
#312
On March 05 2015 03:08 PoP wrote:
Someone on YouTube posted two (bad) photoshops of the dress picture under clearly different lighting conditions:

http://i.imgur.com/pIQIm9I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xA9DV3x.jpg

Comparison:
http://i.imgur.com/VLb9XQO.jpg

Exactly the same colors used on both.

Ummm, some people read tl from work. Please nsfw that.
nemus
Profile Joined February 2010
9 Posts
March 05 2015 05:05 GMT
#313
On March 05 2015 03:08 PoP wrote:
Someone on YouTube posted two (bad) photoshops of the dress picture under clearly different lighting conditions:

http://i.imgur.com/pIQIm9I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xA9DV3x.jpg

Comparison:
http://i.imgur.com/VLb9XQO.jpg

Exactly the same colors used on both.


I can see blue/black dress!!! I can move on now lol
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
March 05 2015 11:26 GMT
#314
difference between indoor and outdoor light is that outdoor has a lot more blue color in it (R/G/B).
blue + red = violet. violet - blue =red. Gets it?!

blue - blue = white
gold - blue = (light) gold

indoor has basically no blue. thats why the color of bulb looks very yellowish (compared to outdoor light).
blue - yellow = (dark) blue
gold - yellow = black

Your brain already do this in subconscious mind.
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-06 05:39:01
March 06 2015 05:30 GMT
#315
On March 05 2015 00:31 Dingodile wrote:
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On March 05 2015 00:21 SKC wrote:
This is a black wall under direct lighthting:
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It goes from basically white to black. This debate is like picking a close up section somewhat close to the lighting souce and argue wether you can still tell the wall is black or you must say it is golden because that's what the the color of the pixels for that particular section.

Oh wow that picture. Look at the bulb, gold and white around the bulb. Maybe they put a bulb under that dress outside?!


The color of the moon is actually the color of asphalt. Although when we look up at night it is white most of the time. And then because of the refraction near the horizon, it's sometimes yellow, orange, etc. And during a lunar eclipse (a shadow on it) it is also red, orange, pinkish for the same reasons.


All of these things are similar to what happens in the lighting of the picture and the refraction of the lens of the camera afaik.

The main source of the debate is how the picture subtly gives us the option of choosing whether the dress is under tons of light, or is in a shaded place via top right and forgeground. So people's brains that see the opposites are filling in the missing data from either of those options. It's not really about some people being better or worse, it's probably more just a random thing.


So the real debate that people don't understand is where this person actually is in relation to the background.
The people seeing the darker colors are assuming that the person is directly in the lighting, while the people seeing the lighter colors are assuming the person is standing under an umbrella or something outside. Since we know the colors of the dress are actually blue and black (although we don't actually know how faded/old the dress is IRL) we can assume that the person is actually not standing under an umbrella, and that is the optical illusion.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-06 05:37:24
March 06 2015 05:36 GMT
#316
On March 05 2015 03:08 PoP wrote:
Someone on YouTube posted two (bad) photoshops of the dress picture under clearly different lighting conditions:

http://i.imgur.com/pIQIm9I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xA9DV3x.jpg

Comparison:
http://i.imgur.com/VLb9XQO.jpg

Exactly the same colors used on both.


wow to me the one on the left looked photoshopped to appear white and gold because that's what i see 23r3gaf
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
March 06 2015 05:40 GMT
#317
On March 06 2015 14:36 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 03:08 PoP wrote:
Someone on YouTube posted two (bad) photoshops of the dress picture under clearly different lighting conditions:

http://i.imgur.com/pIQIm9I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xA9DV3x.jpg

Comparison:
http://i.imgur.com/VLb9XQO.jpg

Exactly the same colors used on both.


wow to me the one on the left looked photoshopped to appear white and gold because that's what i see 23r3gaf



If you take your left hand and make an L shape around her dress swap back and forth between 2 images you can actually see that the dress is the exact same color while the background is getting more or less lighting filters put on.

And that's how this optical illusion tricks the brain into thinking the colors are different than they actually are.
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