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Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:10:40
March 04 2015 15:10 GMT
#281
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.
Not on the picture. The real colours of the picture are brownish gold and light blue. There is nothing else to it. If you see any black or white, your eyes are playing tricks on you.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45182 Posts
March 04 2015 15:14 GMT
#282
On March 05 2015 00:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 23:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 23:18 Cyro wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.


The pixels are a browny gold and a slightly blue tinted white


And the dress is blue and black...

So...what if it is?

Dingodile's point is that he belives that people percieves colour differences depending on whether their eyes are attuned to outdoor/indoor light. I reply and clarify that that I, like many others, see the true colours of the picture, thus rendering his point invalid for many people.

You again reply that the dress of which the image was taken of is blue and black. I suppose you will repeat that the dress is blue and black ad infinitum even despite what the colours of the image actually is.Ok...I suspect that thinking logicaly isn't your forte.


I wasn't responding to Dingodile; I was responding to your statement that blue and brown were the real colors of the dress, instead of blue and black. I was correcting your mistake of brown instead of black. You may not appreciate the correction, but accusing me of not thinking logically is a rather random and personal attack Thanks!
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
March 04 2015 15:15 GMT
#283
On March 05 2015 00:10 Thorakh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.
Not on the picture. The real colours of the picture are brownish gold and light blue. There is nothing else to it. If you see any black or white, your eyes are playing tricks on you.

You know we are talking about the real colours?!
I see gold and white on that picture but still have trouble if this is the real color (too). I cant find this gold and white dress on amazon. I only found in black and blue, whose field reports are funny as hell.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 04 2015 15:16 GMT
#284
Noone actually sees true black, or even something close to it. People see an washed up black that looks brownish because of the shitty picture quality, but they still say they see black and blue because that's how black looks under these kinds of lighting.

The whole debate about it being brown instead of black is missing the point. The interesting bit about this is that some people can see an optical illusion that turns the dress white and some cannot. Arguing about black vs brown is like arguing wether a blueish green color is blue or green.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45182 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:20:13
March 04 2015 15:17 GMT
#285
On March 05 2015 00:10 Thorakh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.
Not on the picture. The real colours of the picture are brownish gold and light blue. There is nothing else to it. If you see any black or white, your eyes are playing tricks on you.


It's been explained many times over that the color of the picture's pixels are not necessarily (and in this case, clearly not) the same as the real colors of the dress, because of the lighting, shadows, etc. I think at this point, people are just recycling complaints about it being an illusion or misleading, which was the entire point of the picture to begin with. People are seeing the picture of the dress as a whole bunch of colors based on their perception and color contrasts (and also based on pixel colors), but the actual dress (like, in real life) is blue and black. Not blue and brown, not gold and white, not red and green, etc. That's all I was saying/ responding to
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 04 2015 15:21 GMT
#286
This is a black wall under direct lighthting:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It goes from basically white to black. This debate is like picking a close up section somewhat close to the lighting souce and argue wether you can still tell the wall is black or you must say it is golden because that's what the the color of the pixels for that particular section.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:26:09
March 04 2015 15:25 GMT
#287
I KNOW it is a dark blue and black dress. The PICTURE is brown and light blue however. Therefore, if you see black and dark blue your eyes are playing tricks on you.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 04 2015 15:27 GMT
#288
What's the title of the thred?

People are just answering the question that was asked, both here and when the image started circulating the web.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45182 Posts
March 04 2015 15:28 GMT
#289
On March 05 2015 00:27 SKC wrote:
What's the title of the thred?

People are just answering the question that was asked, both here and when the image started circulating the web.


Exactly
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Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:29:53
March 04 2015 15:29 GMT
#290
On March 05 2015 00:27 SKC wrote:
What's the title of the thred?

People are just answering the question that was asked, both here and when the image started circulating the web.
People are reporting they see black and white. There is no black and no white.
Ben1500
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom180 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:32:39
March 04 2015 15:29 GMT
#291
I saw gold and white but a few days later I see blue and black, can someone explain to me why that is?
Edit: And its gold and white again.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:33:25
March 04 2015 15:30 GMT
#292
On March 05 2015 00:29 Thorakh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 00:27 SKC wrote:
What's the title of the thred?

People are just answering the question that was asked, both here and when the image started circulating the web.
People are reporting they see black and white. There is no black and no white.

They are reporting they see a black dress. You don't have to see black to know how black under lighting looks. And it can be brownish. People that see white see an optical illusion that people that see blue don't, and it actually looks extremelly white.

I don't think anyone knows why some people see it and some don't, or why some people stop seeing it. That is what makes this so unique. Optical illusion pictures are ussually universal.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:32:46
March 04 2015 15:31 GMT
#293
On March 05 2015 00:21 SKC wrote:
This is a black wall under direct lighthting:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It goes from basically white to black. This debate is like picking a close up section somewhat close to the lighting souce and argue wether you can still tell the wall is black or you must say it is golden because that's what the the color of the pixels for that particular section.

Oh wow that picture. Look at the bulb, gold and white around the bulb. Maybe they put a bulb under that dress outside?!
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 15:37:22
March 04 2015 15:34 GMT
#294
On March 05 2015 00:31 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 00:21 SKC wrote:
This is a black wall under direct lighthting:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It goes from basically white to black. This debate is like picking a close up section somewhat close to the lighting souce and argue wether you can still tell the wall is black or you must say it is golden because that's what the the color of the pixels for that particular section.

Oh wow that picture. Look at the bulb, gold and white around the bulb. Maybe they put a bulb under that dress outside?!


I think the it's called the sun

or it might be indoor lighting..
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 04 2015 15:51 GMT
#295
On March 05 2015 00:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 00:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 04 2015 23:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 23:18 Cyro wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.


The pixels are a browny gold and a slightly blue tinted white


And the dress is blue and black...

So...what if it is?

Dingodile's point is that he belives that people percieves colour differences depending on whether their eyes are attuned to outdoor/indoor light. I reply and clarify that that I, like many others, see the true colours of the picture, thus rendering his point invalid for many people.

You again reply that the dress of which the image was taken of is blue and black. I suppose you will repeat that the dress is blue and black ad infinitum even despite what the colours of the image actually is.Ok...I suspect that thinking logicaly isn't your forte.


I wasn't responding to Dingodile; I was responding to your statement that blue and brown were the real colors of the dress, instead of blue and black. I was correcting your mistake of brown instead of black. You may not appreciate the correction, but accusing me of not thinking logically is a rather random and personal attack Thanks!

And I am responding to Dingodile. When did I ever say what the real colours of the dress was? I clarified twice that I was talking about the colours seen in the image, yet you insist yet again that the colours of the dress is blue and black. At this point you are just being deliberately obtuse. Thanks!
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 16:05:09
March 04 2015 16:03 GMT
#296
On March 04 2015 23:41 Dingodile wrote:
Well you are trying to understand how blue turns white (your first sentence). Thats the mistake, do NOT retroactive accounting unless you see it black&blue.
I see white dress (real colour) because dress is under a shade (black/blue/violet-sunshield was my assume and sun from left angle) changes from white to a very light blue/violet tinted white. Dress is in shade, background has sun.

edit: if you see it black&blue then tell me the context/background (ofcourse before you know the answer)?!


Background has sun, front/side also has sun, sun hits dress, black part therefore looks goldish on the side and blue part looks like lighter blue. Dress is black and blue.

And of course I didn't mean "blue turns white" literally. I meant it as "seeing it white even though it's actually blue".
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
March 04 2015 16:04 GMT
#297
On March 05 2015 00:16 SKC wrote:
Noone actually sees true black, or even something close to it. People see an washed up black that looks brownish because of the shitty picture quality, but they still say they see black and blue because that's how black looks under these kinds of lighting.

The whole debate about it being brown instead of black is missing the point. The interesting bit about this is that some people can see an optical illusion that turns the dress white and some cannot. Arguing about black vs brown is like arguing wether a blueish green color is blue or green.


This 100%
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
March 04 2015 16:05 GMT
#298
On March 05 2015 00:34 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 00:31 Dingodile wrote:
On March 05 2015 00:21 SKC wrote:
This is a black wall under direct lighthting:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It goes from basically white to black. This debate is like picking a close up section somewhat close to the lighting souce and argue wether you can still tell the wall is black or you must say it is golden because that's what the the color of the pixels for that particular section.

Oh wow that picture. Look at the bulb, gold and white around the bulb. Maybe they put a bulb under that dress outside?!


I think the it's called the sun

or it might be indoor lighting..

protest?
sun and indoor lightining aren't the same. I understand indoor lighting as bulb/lamp.

It is really about perception of that yellow colour (indoor or outdoor yellow) in background.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45182 Posts
March 04 2015 16:47 GMT
#299
On March 05 2015 00:51 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 00:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 05 2015 00:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 04 2015 23:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 23:18 Cyro wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.


The pixels are a browny gold and a slightly blue tinted white


And the dress is blue and black...

So...what if it is?

Dingodile's point is that he belives that people percieves colour differences depending on whether their eyes are attuned to outdoor/indoor light. I reply and clarify that that I, like many others, see the true colours of the picture, thus rendering his point invalid for many people.

You again reply that the dress of which the image was taken of is blue and black. I suppose you will repeat that the dress is blue and black ad infinitum even despite what the colours of the image actually is.Ok...I suspect that thinking logicaly isn't your forte.


I wasn't responding to Dingodile; I was responding to your statement that blue and brown were the real colors of the dress, instead of blue and black. I was correcting your mistake of brown instead of black. You may not appreciate the correction, but accusing me of not thinking logically is a rather random and personal attack Thanks!

And I am responding to Dingodile. When did I ever say what the real colours of the dress was? I clarified twice that I was talking about the colours seen in the image, yet you insist yet again that the colours of the dress is blue and black. At this point you are just being deliberately obtuse. Thanks!


You said the "real colours" were "blue&brown", which is what I replied to in the first place -.-' So now we've come full circle. I'm not sure if you're trying to troll me or you just have really bad memory, but I don't think there's anything else to add to your correction. If you're honestly still confused about the colors, SKC lays it out really nicely a few posts above mine. Maybe that'll help you more.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
March 04 2015 17:19 GMT
#300
On March 04 2015 23:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 23:18 Cyro wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
That's funny because I see blue&brown, the real colours, and nothing else, no matter where or what I view it from.
What colours I think the dress actually is, is a different matter from what I actually see.


The real colors are blue and black lol.


The pixels are a browny gold and a slightly blue tinted white


And the dress is blue and black...


Yea, but the pixels are a browny gold and slightly blue tinted white

The picture isn't a good representation of the actual color of the dress. The picture is white(blue tinted)+gold, but the actual dress is blue+black.
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