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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2015 16:26 GMT
#61
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 16:30:02
February 27 2015 16:27 GMT
#62
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.
TheFlock
Profile Joined September 2011
United States389 Posts
February 27 2015 16:31 GMT
#63
I still see a shadow darkened white and gold, changing angle or contrast or looking at it later does not change anything. Still don't understand how it could be anything else
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Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
February 27 2015 16:40 GMT
#64
I see a dress of white mixed in with some blue, and gold-ish parts as well.
Turns out if you increase the brightness enough everything becomes white.
Is the dress black in real life? Maybe. I can't tell, and don't have to either. All I got is this crappy picture, and the colors on this picture are clearly white/gold dominated with some blue mixed in. Still no idea what this thread is all about though.
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
February 27 2015 16:46 GMT
#65
The first time I saw this it was blue/back from my girlfriends phone. Now I've been staring at this for the past hour and I can't see anything but white/gold. There is a light bluish tint to the white but that appears to be shade. I don't know how I was once able to see blue/black but now I can't. Now it seems crazy to me that people are seeing blue and black..

this is driving me mad
Zaragon
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden235 Posts
February 27 2015 16:50 GMT
#66
It’s pretty simple. If the lighting in the room was as blue as the light in the background suggests, the color of the dress would be white and gold. So if your eyes try to compensate for the blue light, you think it’s white and gold. If your eyes instead correctly pick up the white and the red in the background, you compensate for the fact that blue tones could be washed out instead of increased (as we can see from other pictures of the dress that they clearly are) and you interpret the blue as being the color of the dress rather than the light.

How you see it probably depends a lot on the white balance you’re used to on phone cams, web cams, etc. Most people think it’s white and gold because most people are used to seeing bluish white balance on poor camera images.

If you don’t even understand how people can see white and gold, then use your web cam and tinker with the white balance for a white clothing article. You barely need to nudge it to make white look the exact shade of blue as in this picture.

Anyways, if you see it as white and gold, look at the white fabric to the left of the dress and the red spot to the right of it, then stop looking at the picture. Come back to it a while later and look at the fabric to the left and the red spot again, then the dress. It will be blue.

I really don’t think the illusion has much to do with shadow, just that the lighting in the upper right corner has a bluish haze, and we easily assume that the rest of the lighting is also blue or the white balance on the camera is blue, tinting the light in the first place. Seeing the right light in the picture depends on picking out the reference points that cancel out the assumption of blue light; in fact the greater light source is yellow.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 16:53:52
February 27 2015 16:51 GMT
#67
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op.

a bunch of ppl are calling the people who see white/gold crazy, but white/gold is winning the polls

a bunch of people are saying the true color of the dress is black blue but we have yet to see proof and pictures of the original dress without lighting tricks
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 16:56:05
February 27 2015 16:52 GMT
#68
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Also, the second reply in the thread already "proves" that the actual colors in the image are gold/brown and blue.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
February 27 2015 16:56 GMT
#69
On February 28 2015 01:52 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


original pic has huge ass sleeves, the pic you posted has cut off. The "fixed" pic you posted is just a photoshopped pic, not an actual undoctored pic under normal lighting
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 27 2015 16:57 GMT
#70
This is one of the things that make me feel too old for the internet. So many people comment on a completely mundane image of completely mundane dress as if it were the Second coming. What the fuck is so interesting about the fact that if you change brightness of a picture, colors look different, as well as if you take images with bad exposure? What is ambiguous about colors on an image which can be easily once for ever measured in any graphics program, as it is done at the very beginning of this thread?

I just don't get it.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 17:01:55
February 27 2015 16:58 GMT
#71
On February 28 2015 01:56 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:52 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


original pic has huge ass sleeves, the pic you posted has cut off. The "fixed" pic you posted is just a photoshopped pic, not an actual undoctored pic under normal lighting

That's a coat. Not the sleeves. Here is another pic:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Here's the story behind it:
http://elitedaily.com/news/world/heres-proof-need-dress-definitely-black-blue-photo/950113/

The interesting thing about it is that people seem to see completelly diferent colors. Even after messing with brightness setting and such. I can't think of another optical illusion that works like that.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 27 2015 17:00 GMT
#72
On February 28 2015 01:52 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Also, the second reply in the thread already "proves" that the actual colors in the image are gold/brown and blue.

I could swear that i never see such oversatured colors as in blue-black pic in real life O_o.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
February 27 2015 17:02 GMT
#73
On February 28 2015 01:58 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:56 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:52 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 00:28 Powerpill wrote:
Simple lighting and shadow

I always loved this example
[image loading]

A and B are the same color btw

Edit: someone beat me to it, doh

This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


original pic has huge ass sleeves, the pic you posted has cut off. The "fixed" pic you posted is just a photoshopped pic, not an actual undoctored pic under normal lighting

That's a coat. Not the sleeves. Here is another pic:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Here is an examp of how we percieve the blue as white:

http://img2.imgtn.bdimg.com/it/u=2891002381,3237060887&fm=21&gp=0.jpg

its clear as hell what color the snow really is

SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 17:07:16
February 27 2015 17:04 GMT
#74
On February 28 2015 02:02 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 01:58 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:56 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:52 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:00 Technique wrote:
[quote]
This is something else though...

The picture of the dress is just a horrible picture.
In your example the real color shows up if you either eye drop it in photoshop or isolate it.

The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


original pic has huge ass sleeves, the pic you posted has cut off. The "fixed" pic you posted is just a photoshopped pic, not an actual undoctored pic under normal lighting

That's a coat. Not the sleeves. Here is another pic:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Here is an examp of how we percieve the blue as white:

http://img2.imgtn.bdimg.com/it/u=2891002381,3237060887&fm=21&gp=0.jpg

its clear as hell what color the snow really is


404

But if it's a picture of blue snow, it's a completelly diferent issue. The sky also isn't actually blue. Everyone can see Ice being blue in certain ocasions. In the same way we know water isn't blue. But sometimes it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_ice_(glacial)
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 17:09:51
February 27 2015 17:09 GMT
#75
On February 28 2015 01:46 SolaR- wrote:
The first time I saw this it was blue/back from my girlfriends phone. Now I've been staring at this for the past hour and I can't see anything but white/gold. There is a light bluish tint to the white but that appears to be shade. I don't know how I was once able to see blue/black but now I can't. Now it seems crazy to me that people are seeing blue and black..

this is driving me mad


haha I see it in blue and black only again. Neato

can I change my vote?
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
February 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#76
It is definitely a horrible dress.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
February 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#77
I don't know why the argument is between blue/black and white/gold. I'm seeing it as blue/gold like a few other people in this thread.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
February 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#78
On February 28 2015 02:04 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 02:02 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:58 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:56 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:52 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:51 saltywet wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:27 SKC wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:22 Technique wrote:
On February 28 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
[quote]
The whole point of the photo is that the "real color" is based on how your brain processes the information it receives. It can receive the same information, but based on the placement of the color, you will get vastly different outcome. It also differs from person to person.

In his example yes.

The picture of the dress is nothing more than a bad photograph with very poor white balance...
There is no trickery going on... if you stood infront of it you would not see what you see in the photograph.
While the example he gave you can recreate in real life as well.

But there are conditions where the dress would appear white and gold to the naked eye.

It would be very hard to create a condition where this dress looks white and gold to the naked eye
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The concept between those optical illusions and the dress issue is also still diferent. The illusions are something everyone can see, and most people can accept how it works. Two people seeing the same image but diferent colors is something new.


except that dress is not the dress in the op

It is? Unless there has been some new development that I'm missing.

Here it is with the colors "fixed"
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


original pic has huge ass sleeves, the pic you posted has cut off. The "fixed" pic you posted is just a photoshopped pic, not an actual undoctored pic under normal lighting

That's a coat. Not the sleeves. Here is another pic:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Here is an examp of how we percieve the blue as white:

http://img2.imgtn.bdimg.com/it/u=2891002381,3237060887&fm=21&gp=0.jpg

its clear as hell what color the snow really is


404

But if it's a picture of blue snow, it's a completelly diferent issue. The sky also isn't actually blue. Everyone can see Ice being blue in certain ocasions. In the same way we know water isn't blue. But sometimes it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_ice_(glacial)


snow is different from water and the sky? water and sky is percieved as blue because of refraction. the snow isn't refracting light, its reflecting light in the same manner (due to the darkened lighting} that makes the majority of us percieve the dress as white
Keeemy
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Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 17:12:24
February 27 2015 17:12 GMT
#79
Haha this is brilliant. :D Looks white/gold to me, but in other pictures the dress is obviously black/blue.

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e: Welp, 6k post in a non-SC thread. GG
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9055 Posts
February 27 2015 17:12 GMT
#80
It's white/gold to me, but when I look at it from a distance, the white part turns blue.
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