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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 09 2015 17:01 GMT
#1701
On January 10 2015 02:00 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 01:59 Makro wrote:
porte de vincennes assault :

the beginning : http://imgur.com/eWe2MUN

the fight : http://imgur.com/1FIf6PL

hostage run away : http://imgur.com/ZJXkAFN

the wounded police man : http://imgur.com/giYn8Vy


if you have a stream showing the footage or footage somewhere, please link it. Thanks


try it http://www.france2.fr/direct maybe they will rebroadcast it again
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 09 2015 17:02 GMT
#1702
This is a nightmare.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 17:02:28
January 09 2015 17:02 GMT
#1703
On January 10 2015 02:00 VelJa wrote:
Shit.
Apparently 4 hostage dead @vincennes
source TF1

The hostages were killed when the guy went in the shop not during the assault
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 09 2015 17:02 GMT
#1704
On January 10 2015 01:58 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 01:56 Warfie wrote:
Hmm I see. So it wouldn't be possible to knock them out quickly enough? Btw I'm not saying the police did a poor job, just trying to understand why such a response isn't feasible


My guess is that tranquilizers are not reliable enough. They could take long time before they have any effect or they could have no effect at all.

They totally are not. This is not video games. You shoot to kill and anything less could get people killed.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
January 09 2015 17:02 GMT
#1705
For my understanding, Coulibaly was the third gunman at Charlie Hedbo, correct? They split up during the escape?
Yargh
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 17:04:06
January 09 2015 17:03 GMT
#1706
did the hostage die before or while the assault ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
January 09 2015 17:04 GMT
#1707
It is not known yet.
NoiR
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
January 09 2015 17:04 GMT
#1708
On January 10 2015 02:01 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 02:00 Grettin wrote:
On January 10 2015 01:59 Makro wrote:
porte de vincennes assault :

the beginning : http://imgur.com/eWe2MUN

the fight : http://imgur.com/1FIf6PL

hostage run away : http://imgur.com/ZJXkAFN

the wounded police man : http://imgur.com/giYn8Vy


if you have a stream showing the footage or footage somewhere, please link it. Thanks


try it http://www.france2.fr/direct maybe they will rebroadcast it again


Thanks, they just reboradcasted it.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 09 2015 17:05 GMT
#1709
On January 10 2015 02:02 JinDesu wrote:
For my understanding, Coulibaly was the third gunman at Charlie Hedbo, correct? They split up during the escape?

No. Coulibaly and the Kouachi brothers knew themselves, but only the brothers did the Charlie Hebdo massacre. Separately, Coulibaly killed a police officer the same day.
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Provok
Profile Joined March 2012
France159 Posts
January 09 2015 17:05 GMT
#1710
On January 10 2015 02:02 JinDesu wrote:
For my understanding, Coulibaly was the third gunman at Charlie Hedbo, correct? They split up during the escape?


Nope, apparently he was the guy who shot to death a policewoman yesterday in Paris. Not official tho.
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Nitro68
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
France470 Posts
January 09 2015 17:05 GMT
#1711
On January 10 2015 02:02 JinDesu wrote:
For my understanding, Coulibaly was the third gunman at Charlie Hedbo, correct? They split up during the escape?

No info about this. Tbh dont know why they said there were 3 people on Chalie's attack.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 17:06:05
January 09 2015 17:05 GMT
#1712
On January 10 2015 02:02 JinDesu wrote:
For my understanding, Coulibaly was the third gunman at Charlie Hedbo, correct? They split up during the escape?

No. It was another shooter who killed a cop yesterday morning in Montrouge. But they were related.

On January 10 2015 02:05 Nitro68 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 02:02 JinDesu wrote:
For my understanding, Coulibaly was the third gunman at Charlie Hedbo, correct? They split up during the escape?

No info about this. Tbh dont know why they said there were 3 people on Chalie's attack.


Because one witness said he saw someone else
NoiR
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2849 Posts
January 09 2015 17:06 GMT
#1713
On January 10 2015 02:02 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 01:58 BlitzerSC wrote:
On January 10 2015 01:56 Warfie wrote:
Hmm I see. So it wouldn't be possible to knock them out quickly enough? Btw I'm not saying the police did a poor job, just trying to understand why such a response isn't feasible


My guess is that tranquilizers are not reliable enough. They could take long time before they have any effect or they could have no effect at all.

They totally are not. This is not video games. You shoot to kill and anything less could get people killed.

I understand then. I really don't know anything about tranquilizers and their effect so this clarifies
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
January 09 2015 17:06 GMT
#1714
On January 10 2015 02:03 Makro wrote:
did the hostage die before or while the assault ?

can't find any reports of the hostages dying during the assault, but BBC and Reuters say "during the siege", which seems to imply that it was after forces arrive

There seems to be conflicting information here though?
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
January 09 2015 17:06 GMT
#1715
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 17:07:22
January 09 2015 17:06 GMT
#1716
On January 10 2015 02:05 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 02:02 JinDesu wrote:
For my understanding, Coulibaly was the third gunman at Charlie Hedbo, correct? They split up during the escape?

No. Coulibaly and the Kouachi brothers knew themselves, but only the brothers did the Charlie Hebdo massacre. Separately, Coulibaly killed a police officer the same day.


Ok that's very helpful for my understanding. So Coulibaly exposed himself after the event, I read somewhere earlier that he took the hostages to cover for the brothers - is that accurate?

Edit - Sky News confirmed the second part for me. Got it.
Yargh
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
January 09 2015 17:06 GMT
#1717
On January 10 2015 02:03 Makro wrote:
did the hostage die before or while the assault ?

Before the siege even started
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 09 2015 17:07 GMT
#1718
On January 10 2015 02:06 Warfie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 02:02 Plansix wrote:
On January 10 2015 01:58 BlitzerSC wrote:
On January 10 2015 01:56 Warfie wrote:
Hmm I see. So it wouldn't be possible to knock them out quickly enough? Btw I'm not saying the police did a poor job, just trying to understand why such a response isn't feasible


My guess is that tranquilizers are not reliable enough. They could take long time before they have any effect or they could have no effect at all.

They totally are not. This is not video games. You shoot to kill and anything less could get people killed.

I understand then. I really don't know anything about tranquilizers and their effect so this clarifies

Anything you see in video games about taking someone out non-lethally is BS. Same with movies. Knocking someone out instantly is not something that can be done reliably. Hence guns.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18772 Posts
January 09 2015 17:07 GMT
#1719
oh apparently the GIGN's first assault was not successful and then the two brothers stormed out and then were shot...
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 09 2015 17:08 GMT
#1720
On January 10 2015 02:06 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 02:05 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 10 2015 02:02 JinDesu wrote:
For my understanding, Coulibaly was the third gunman at Charlie Hedbo, correct? They split up during the escape?

No. Coulibaly and the Kouachi brothers knew themselves, but only the brothers did the Charlie Hebdo massacre. Separately, Coulibaly killed a police officer the same day.


Ok that's very helpful for my understanding. So Coulibaly exposed himself after the event, I read somewhere earlier that he took the hostages to cover for the brothers - is that accurate?

Considering they knew each other and may (not confirmed) have been in contact via phone or something else, it is possible that Coulibaly tried to divert the forces chasing the brothers by taking hostages. It's not confirmed though, and since they're all dead we'll never know.
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