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On January 09 2015 23:21 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:19 OtherWorld wrote:On January 09 2015 23:17 ahswtini wrote:On January 09 2015 23:16 FFW_Rude wrote:They have weapons drawned... ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B66dw5hIQAAe_P6.jpg) No one knows what's happening in trocadero Is the subway system locked down? It's gotta be serious if they're drawing and aiming weapons down into an area where there may be civilians According to LeMonde the line 6 of the subway has been locked down around the Trocadero station. And after yesterday, I assume a lot of people in Paris are just staying inside? I mean, this seems like when they were hunting the bombers in the Boston area, where we just shut down the city.
No we're not. I know some people try to avoid public transports but that's pretty much all. Also sales just started but shops are not as busy as usual.
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On January 09 2015 23:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Let me get this straight the original Charlie Hebdo murderers are still surrounded at that publishing factory right?
Yes.
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On January 09 2015 23:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Let me get this straight the original Charlie Hebdo murderers are still surrounded at that publishing factory right?
Yes, with one hostage possibly more
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On January 09 2015 23:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
I'm sorry but "Etat d'urgence" must be called. They need too. It's too big.
for non french. "Etat d'urgence" is special police rights. I dunno how to explain it iun english sorry
State of emergency or martial law?
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The Trocadero subway thing confirmed as a false alert by the Ministry of the Interior. The subway traffic gets back to normal.
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France9034 Posts
On January 09 2015 23:22 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:21 Ragnarork wrote:
There's been witnesses of an armed man on the tracks of the subway near trocadero. Subway has been evacuated apparently. To be confirmed of course. Not confirmed and apparently not true A lot of people are going to get paranoid and some retarded genius are going to use it for some joke, we should not jump into conclusion that quickly
That's why I used the conditional. But there's also policeman with their guns pointed at subway's exit so that could be possible.
Or just a prank. Which would be seriously fucked up....
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On January 09 2015 23:25 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
I'm sorry but "Etat d'urgence" must be called. They need too. It's too big.
for non french. "Etat d'urgence" is special police rights. I dunno how to explain it iun english sorry State of emergency or martial law?
State of emergency. Basically the government can decide to shut down some shops, public places, institute a curfew, etc ; the military can cover some tasks traditionally covered by the police ; it also enables the government to have a partial control over what the newspapers and medias publish. Also gives extra power to the police.
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On January 09 2015 23:22 ahswtini wrote:
well shit Israeli intelligence is now involved
Doesn't surprise me one bit. As soon as they heard its a Jewish/Kosher store, it was bound to happen.
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This is getting out of hand...
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France9034 Posts
Ah, Le Monde just confirmed this was a false alert at the Trocadero.
The Subway line tweeted that the incident has ended and that traffic was going back to normal.
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
The terrorists took one thing away from Mumbai - bombs are over as soon as, and if they go off. Gunmen can keep a city disrupted for days.
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On January 09 2015 23:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Let me get this straight the original Charlie Hebdo murderers are still surrounded at that publishing factory right?
Yes.
But yesterday morning there was a second attack in the south of Paris. Some guy just showed up in a car accident and shot a policewoman to death. Another guy was wounded.
The police lost track of the shooter but managed to identify him as connected to the Kouachi brothers. They think he's he guy who just took hostages in the east of Paris.
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The media are really making this whole thing worse than it is.
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On January 09 2015 23:25 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
I'm sorry but "Etat d'urgence" must be called. They need too. It's too big.
for non french. "Etat d'urgence" is special police rights. I dunno how to explain it iun english sorry State of emergency or martial law?
No it's not a martial law. It just give more liberty to the police. As like.. the "chiefs of police" can decide stuff by themselves in their own region. Maybe someone can explain it better.
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On January 09 2015 23:30 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:25 jello_biafra wrote:On January 09 2015 23:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
I'm sorry but "Etat d'urgence" must be called. They need too. It's too big.
for non french. "Etat d'urgence" is special police rights. I dunno how to explain it iun english sorry State of emergency or martial law? No it's not a martial law. It just give more liberty to the police. As like.. the "chiefs of police" can decide stuff by themselves. Maybe someone can explain it better.
Yeah, it's likely more like our "state of emergency," which allows local police and government officials more discretion in allocating resources and decision-making.
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On January 09 2015 23:31 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:30 FFW_Rude wrote:On January 09 2015 23:25 jello_biafra wrote:On January 09 2015 23:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
I'm sorry but "Etat d'urgence" must be called. They need too. It's too big.
for non french. "Etat d'urgence" is special police rights. I dunno how to explain it iun english sorry State of emergency or martial law? No it's not a martial law. It just give more liberty to the police. As like.. the "chiefs of police" can decide stuff by themselves. Maybe someone can explain it better. Yeah, it's likely more like our "state of emergency," which allows local police and government officials more discretion in allocating resources and decision-making.
yes it's more like that. This thing can last two weeks and permit to police force to search houses without "warrant" (well it's not like US warrant but kind of) and permits curfew if needed or press control.
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France9034 Posts
On January 09 2015 23:30 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 23:25 jello_biafra wrote:On January 09 2015 23:20 FFW_Rude wrote:
I'm sorry but "Etat d'urgence" must be called. They need too. It's too big.
for non french. "Etat d'urgence" is special police rights. I dunno how to explain it iun english sorry State of emergency or martial law? No it's not a martial law. It just give more liberty to the police. As like.. the "chiefs of police" can decide stuff by themselves in their own region. Maybe someone can explain it better.
Yep. Basically, Police commissioner are given extra powers, like ordering curfews, the minister of the interior can assign to residency specific people without court order, things like that.
But it's extra power granted to _civil_ forces, not to the military.
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What Ragnarok said. I'm really bad at english this last few days.
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About "État d'urgence":
"En France, l'état d'urgence « confère aux autorités civiles, dans l'aire géographique à laquelle il s'applique, des pouvoirs de police exceptionnels portant sur la réglementation de la circulation et du séjour des personnes, sur la fermeture des lieux ouverts au public et sur la réquisition des armes »1.
Translation:
"In France, the state of emergency grants civil authorities extraordinary jurisdiction over traffic and movement regulations, the shutting down of buildings open to the public and the requisition of weapons in the relevant geographic location."
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