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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
January 09 2015 14:41 GMT
#1461
On January 09 2015 23:35 FFW_Rude wrote:
What Ragnarok said. I'm really bad at english this last few days.


I'm bad at optimism these days, personally.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18746 Posts
January 09 2015 14:49 GMT
#1462
On January 09 2015 23:29 maartendq wrote:
The media are really making this whole thing worse than it is.



Really? 3 shootings in one week is not bad to you?
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 14:51:37
January 09 2015 14:51 GMT
#1463
On January 09 2015 23:49 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 23:29 maartendq wrote:
The media are really making this whole thing worse than it is.



Really? 3 shootings in one week is not bad to you?


I think he might have been referring to the way they are handling the whole thing. Some outlets are being pretty unprofessional and a little too sensionalist.
I like words.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
January 09 2015 14:52 GMT
#1464
On January 09 2015 23:49 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 23:29 maartendq wrote:
The media are really making this whole thing worse than it is.



Really? 3 shootings in one week is not bad to you?


Pretty sure he is talking about how the media is acting with their coverage etc.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 09 2015 14:53 GMT
#1465
On January 09 2015 23:49 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 23:29 maartendq wrote:
The media are really making this whole thing worse than it is.



Really? 3 shootings in one week is not bad to you?

that not what he meant

when you read some newspaper online you have the feeling that France is under bombing from planes and being assault by a foreign army
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
January 09 2015 14:53 GMT
#1466
On January 09 2015 23:49 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 23:29 maartendq wrote:
The media are really making this whole thing worse than it is.



Really? 3 shootings in one week is not bad to you?


I guess that's not what he wanted to say at all.

Honestly, they are just keeping speaking 'bout all those things, making things worse for the police : really harder to get their job done, cause they are giving a whole lot of information that the 3 mofos could use to their advantages...
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
January 09 2015 14:53 GMT
#1467
On January 09 2015 23:51 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 23:49 sharkie wrote:
On January 09 2015 23:29 maartendq wrote:
The media are really making this whole thing worse than it is.



Really? 3 shootings in one week is not bad to you?


I think he might have been referring to the way they are handling the whole thing. Some outlets are being pretty unprofessional and a little too sensionalist.


compared to us media and networks like nbc just releasing plain wrong info to get views it seems ok.

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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18746 Posts
January 09 2015 14:55 GMT
#1468
Oh well I only read BBC so I don't notice any sensationalist views.
Advice to everyone: stick to BBC, they always keep it neutral as good as possible

I only know from own experience that all German media is bad
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
January 09 2015 14:58 GMT
#1469
On January 09 2015 23:49 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 23:29 maartendq wrote:
The media are really making this whole thing worse than it is.



Really? 3 shootings in one week is not bad to you?

It is. It's terrible. However, the (gutter) media makes it seem as if the whole of Paris is on fire, and that there are muslim terrorists everywhere. As per usual, they do this by putting every single unconfirmed rumour on their websites.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 09 2015 15:04 GMT
#1470
Parents that have kids in schools that are inside the security zone cannot get their kids. (i guess they will be evacuated by police outside of the security zone like they did in seine et marne)
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 15:11:52
January 09 2015 15:05 GMT
#1471
+ Show Spoiler +
woman calling bbc claims she got called by relative inshops basement and that 5+ ppl dead in the shop.
obv unconfirmed
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 15:09:18
January 09 2015 15:08 GMT
#1472
On January 10 2015 00:05 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:

Don't post unconfirmed thing please. It's really hard to stay focused on what we know since a lot of thing aren't confirmed. No offence. I too posted unconfirmed stuff. I just saw it was really misleading.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 09 2015 15:10 GMT
#1473
just in case if some people doubt about the gign, raid, or GIPN, they have been trained since more than 10-15 years for a situation like this and even worse (multiple hostage at the same time on every part of france, reported on TV by someone who worked with the GIGN as a mediator)

so they aren't taken by surprise and they know how to handle this kind of stuff
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
January 09 2015 15:12 GMT
#1474
Media is saying that the attackers (all three) are connected by phone, which obviously makes things more difficult. Any French media's out there reporting the same?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 09 2015 15:14 GMT
#1475
On January 10 2015 00:12 Grettin wrote:
Media is saying that the attackers (all three) are connected by phone, which obviously makes things more difficult. Any French media's out there reporting the same?


There was a question on Lemonde asking that and Lemonde answered that the people were connected in the sense "The shooters are connected because they know each other" but the question asked was like : "are they connected by phone" so this may have mislead some people.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Provok
Profile Joined March 2012
France159 Posts
January 09 2015 15:15 GMT
#1476
On January 10 2015 00:10 Makro wrote:
just in case if some people doubt about the gign, raid, or GIPN, they have been trained since more than 10-15 years for a situation like this and even worse (multiple hostage at the same time on every part of france, reported on TV by someone who worked with the GIGN as a mediator)

so they aren't taken by surprise and they know how to handle this kind of stuff


I have faith in them, they already did great operations in the past. I'm sure they will handle it correctly.
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ ʀᴀɪsᴇ ᴜʀ ᴅᴏɴɢᴇʀsヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
January 09 2015 15:15 GMT
#1477
On January 10 2015 00:14 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 00:12 Grettin wrote:
Media is saying that the attackers (all three) are connected by phone, which obviously makes things more difficult. Any French media's out there reporting the same?


There was a question on Lemonde asking that and Lemonde answered that the people were connected in the sense "The shooters are connected because they know each other" but the question asked was like : "are they connected by phone" so this may have mislead some people.


Makes sense.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 09 2015 15:16 GMT
#1478
On January 10 2015 00:12 Grettin wrote:
Media is saying that the attackers (all three) are connected by phone, which obviously makes things more difficult. Any French media's out there reporting the same?

Minister of Interior asked hours before the shut down of telecommunication's infrastructure where the first hostage situation occurs (the guys that did the charlie hebdo killing)

so i think it's unlikely that they are able to do so
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 15:19:54
January 09 2015 15:16 GMT
#1479
On January 10 2015 00:15 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 00:14 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 10 2015 00:12 Grettin wrote:
Media is saying that the attackers (all three) are connected by phone, which obviously makes things more difficult. Any French media's out there reporting the same?


There was a question on Lemonde asking that and Lemonde answered that the people were connected in the sense "The shooters are connected because they know each other" but the question asked was like : "are they connected by phone" so this may have mislead some people.


Makes sense.


There's a lot of misleading or wtf question though. So they may answer baddly sometimes. I won't post the wtf questions since they might mislead people. If you can read french you can go there :

http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/live/2015/01/07/en-direct-des-coups-de-feu-au-siege-de-charlie-hebdo_4550635_3224.html

Question i refer too is this : (for your first post)
Question
Max
Est ce que les freres Kouachi et le forcené de Montrouge sont en contact ensemble ?

Answer
LeMonde.fr: @Max : Oui, selon nos informations un lien a clairement été établi entre eux. Des sources au ministère de l'intérieur ont jugé "probable" que l'auteur de l'attaque de Montrouge soit le forcené de la porte de Vincennes.
vendredi 9 janvier 2015 14h16


Question : Are the three guy in contact together ?
Answer : Yes there is a link between them.

So maybe people just read : "Yes" and quit at that. Because if you read "there is a link" it's clear that they missed the question.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8185 Posts
January 09 2015 15:21 GMT
#1480
On January 10 2015 00:15 Provok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 00:10 Makro wrote:
just in case if some people doubt about the gign, raid, or GIPN, they have been trained since more than 10-15 years for a situation like this and even worse (multiple hostage at the same time on every part of france, reported on TV by someone who worked with the GIGN as a mediator)

so they aren't taken by surprise and they know how to handle this kind of stuff


I have faith in them, they already did great operations in the past. I'm sure they will handle it correctly.

Actually GIGN is by far one of the best police special force in the world. But they can't make miracles either...
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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