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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 09 2014 23:58 GMT
#121
On December 10 2014 07:57 klipik12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 07:50 Darkdwarf wrote:
My Unfiltered cravings just grow bigger and bigger!

OBC get here already!

So this is getting acquired, not bought, as in Alex didn't sell GG to Twitch and is still running it, right? Unlike when Amazon bought Twitch or MS bought Mojang, the guys who owned the compaines left.

Actually no difference between "bought" and "acquired" unless money was not involved in an acquisition (like, never); the differences you're noting are just specific to the deals. In this acquisition it's clear that AG's expertise and relationship with the community and sponsors was valuable along with his organization. Or he would not accept terms that did not leave him at CEO. Either way it's a good decision to keep him there.

There are definite possible issues as I brought up in the (now duplicate) thread. Twitch is a delivery platform for esports. GG is a creator of esports content (by providing competitors). Amazon is also a competitor with at least one esports sponsor (NewEgg). Furthermore, while tournaments have been sponsored by streaming sites including Twitch, no teams have had a conflict from this sector in deciding what tournaments to participate in.

The conflicts exist right on the surface; the question is how the related organizations react to this. For the most part, considering GG, Amazon, and Twitch's place in the market, it is more on them than anyone else. As long as a parent organization does not cascade bullying behavior down, it should be fine.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Basic
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada288 Posts
December 09 2014 23:59 GMT
#122
This was abrupt and unexpected. I am wondering if the means we can expect and "EG Channel Conglomeration" of sorts. Will we see a set of Twitch channels from EG given highly preferential treatment? Will they merge in to a super channel of sorts with special pages and unique features? I am interested in the logistics of how this will operate within the website itself.

So many questions, cannot wait for that iNcontroL video.
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
December 10 2014 00:01 GMT
#123
This is incredible for eSports as a whole, with GoodGame aligning itself with Twitch and in-turn Amazon means that eSports is going to start having a much stronger foundation and in time legitimacy.
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
December 10 2014 00:03 GMT
#124
Holy crap what is this !!

So in the end, Amazon owns EG/GG

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
BongChambers
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada591 Posts
December 10 2014 00:15 GMT
#125
Means more players will be signed, more games brought in for EG and Alliance and lots more 'pros' streaming ^_^

More subs too
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 10 2014 00:25 GMT
#126
Well, I guess this'll affect streaming schedules for the pros at least. Hopefully for the better. MORE.
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wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
December 10 2014 00:31 GMT
#127
A monolith getting bigger, not sure how this is supposed to be a good thing. We need twitch competitors, not a bigger monopoly
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
December 10 2014 00:36 GMT
#128
WOW
Vasacast always in my <3
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 00:37:32
December 10 2014 00:36 GMT
#129
Why is anyone assuming this will have any impact on SC2?

Yes, Jaedong will be able to attend tournaments for another year, but other than that?

It's save to assume that they would have sent Jaedong regardless, he's a legend and their last relevant SC2-player.
People assuming that they will just open another SC2 team out of the goodness of their hearts, or because they want to give back to the community that helped making them big are kidding themselves.

On December 10 2014 09:15 BongChambers wrote:
Means more players will be signed, more games brought in for EG and Alliance and lots more 'pros' streaming ^_^

More subs too


Yes, probably ten new players. One Dota-team, one LoL-team.

SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 10 2014 00:39 GMT
#130
On December 10 2014 09:36 SixStrings wrote:
Why is anyone assuming this will have any impact on SC2?

Yes, Jaedong will be able to attend tournaments for another year, but other than that?

It's save to assume that they would have sent Jaedong regardless, he's a legend and their last relevant SC2-player.
People assuming that they will just open another SC2 team out of the goodness of their hearts, or because they want to give back to the community that helped making them big are kidding themselves.

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:15 BongChambers wrote:
Means more players will be signed, more games brought in for EG and Alliance and lots more 'pros' streaming ^_^

More subs too


Yes, probably ten new players. One Dota-team, one LoL-team.



Ya, I'm not sure why everyone is being so optimistic here. EG had little interesting in Sc2 before, this doesn't change that.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 10 2014 00:39 GMT
#131
Alex garfield is the man
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
December 10 2014 00:59 GMT
#132
This is nice and all but what does it matter for Starcraft I wonder.

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Iceman331
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1306 Posts
December 10 2014 01:02 GMT
#133

And as an Amazon subsidiary, we’ll also be able to offer our players other additional benefits to which they didn’t previously have access.


Surprised no one has commented on this bit yet. If this is what it appears to be, it means players will be getting things like health insurance from Amazon, which is a HUGE step forwards for the industry.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 10 2014 01:10 GMT
#134
On December 10 2014 10:02 Iceman331 wrote:
Show nested quote +

And as an Amazon subsidiary, we’ll also be able to offer our players other additional benefits to which they didn’t previously have access.


Surprised no one has commented on this bit yet. If this is what it appears to be, it means players will be getting things like health insurance from Amazon, which is a HUGE step forwards for the industry.

Probably because not everyone reads "additional benefits" as "benefits" in the employer/employee sense (which would include health benefits). I would love for this to be the case but we don't know that it is yet.

Remember that these individuals are probably considered independent contractors.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
December 10 2014 01:12 GMT
#135
On December 10 2014 10:02 Iceman331 wrote:
Show nested quote +

And as an Amazon subsidiary, we’ll also be able to offer our players other additional benefits to which they didn’t previously have access.


Surprised no one has commented on this bit yet. If this is what it appears to be, it means players will be getting things like health insurance from Amazon, which is a HUGE step forwards for the industry.

Or it could just be something like free Amazon Prime memberships...
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
December 10 2014 01:21 GMT
#136
meaning HuK will never try again T_T
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
klipik12
Profile Joined March 2012
United States241 Posts
December 10 2014 01:24 GMT
#137
On December 10 2014 09:36 SixStrings wrote:
Why is anyone assuming this will have any impact on SC2?

Yes, Jaedong will be able to attend tournaments for another year, but other than that?

It's save to assume that they would have sent Jaedong regardless, he's a legend and their last relevant SC2-player.
People assuming that they will just open another SC2 team out of the goodness of their hearts, or because they want to give back to the community that helped making them big are kidding themselves.

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:15 BongChambers wrote:
Means more players will be signed, more games brought in for EG and Alliance and lots more 'pros' streaming ^_^

More subs too


Yes, probably ten new players. One Dota-team, one LoL-team.



Well considering This, no LoL team. And why would they need a new Dota team?
<(^_^)> || Axiom - CoL - mYi - Prime - ROOT - EG - Acer || WCS Teamleague pls ;-;
Jaded.
Profile Joined June 2013
United States125 Posts
December 10 2014 01:37 GMT
#138
On December 10 2014 09:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:36 SixStrings wrote:
Why is anyone assuming this will have any impact on SC2?

Yes, Jaedong will be able to attend tournaments for another year, but other than that?

It's save to assume that they would have sent Jaedong regardless, he's a legend and their last relevant SC2-player.
People assuming that they will just open another SC2 team out of the goodness of their hearts, or because they want to give back to the community that helped making them big are kidding themselves.

On December 10 2014 09:15 BongChambers wrote:
Means more players will be signed, more games brought in for EG and Alliance and lots more 'pros' streaming ^_^

More subs too


Yes, probably ten new players. One Dota-team, one LoL-team.



Ya, I'm not sure why everyone is being so optimistic here. EG had little interesting in Sc2 before, this doesn't change that.


Yes this is an advertising acquisition. E-sports while a relatively small market is still growing and Amazon wants someone already in the industry that knows how to advertise to gamers just in case E-sports actually makes it big. The thing I don't like is that no numbers were released. Amazon overpaid for twitch are they now hiding the fact they overpaid for GG or was it such a small transaction (couple million) that it doesn't really matter? Won't mean much of anything for SC2 unless it magically gets popular again. All the Ad money is in LoL/Dota2.

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. What I'm saying is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know that we don't know
Jaded.
Profile Joined June 2013
United States125 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 02:01:46
December 10 2014 01:41 GMT
#139
On December 10 2014 10:24 klipik12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:36 SixStrings wrote:
Why is anyone assuming this will have any impact on SC2?

Yes, Jaedong will be able to attend tournaments for another year, but other than that?

It's save to assume that they would have sent Jaedong regardless, he's a legend and their last relevant SC2-player.
People assuming that they will just open another SC2 team out of the goodness of their hearts, or because they want to give back to the community that helped making them big are kidding themselves.

On December 10 2014 09:15 BongChambers wrote:
Means more players will be signed, more games brought in for EG and Alliance and lots more 'pros' streaming ^_^

More subs too


Yes, probably ten new players. One Dota-team, one LoL-team.



Well considering This, no LoL team. And why would they need a new Dota team?


That just said they still have a LoL team. This is an acquisition of GG, EG and Alliance are just brands under GG. It states there that GG will continue to sponsor the LoL teams but not under EG or Alliance.

but yea they already have 2 DotA teams and 2 LoL teams so probably not interested in getting more.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. What I'm saying is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know that we don't know
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
December 10 2014 01:52 GMT
#140
Whoaaaaaaaaaa that's huge news!
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
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