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pmh
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Biff The Understudy
France7960 Posts
On July 01 2017 02:11 TheDwf wrote: Collective delirium and drug consumption in Macronie: + Show Spoiler + Not a bad choice anyway; Hermès is known as the god of thieves! Between that and Boutin who thinks she is Moses, we are a bit fucked.. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
370 for 67 against 129 abstention Strict majority is at 360, so there are 10 extra votes among the satellites. Social-democrats chose to abstain (despite clear indications of a right-wing policy from the government), which was fairly expected given their cowardice; but the mainstream right seemed to be as pusillanimous. Guess it's hard to vote against the confidence when the Prime minister is from your own ranks... This is the record of the lowest expressed opposition for a vote of confidence (11.6%). This Chamber is so out of touch with the political reality of the country... Edit—Detailed votes: + Show Spoiler + Composition/positioning of groups: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/471672-european-politico-economics-qa-mega-thread?page=902#18022 EM (305/314) 305 for Mainstream right (99/100) 1 for 23 against 75 abstention MODEM (46/47) 46 for Constructive right (35/35) 12 for 23 abstention Social-democrats (31/31) 3 for 5 against 23 abstention France Insoumise (17/17) 17 against PCF + misc (16/16) 12 against 4 abstention Non-registered (17/17) 3 for 10 against [FN + Dupont-Aignan] 4 abstention Beauty of parliamentary postures: the proclaimed "opposition" doesn't assume to be the opposition, satellites don't really assume to be satellites... Only one group has a clear, unified stance against the majority. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22073 Posts
On July 05 2017 02:15 TheDwf wrote: After King Macron's rather bland speech in front of the Congress yesterday, the Prime Minister had his general policy speech today. The resulting vote of confidence (out of 566 votes): 370 for 67 against 129 abstention Strict majority is at 360, so there are 10 extra votes among the satellites. Social-democrats chose to abstain (despite clear indications of a right-wing policy from the government), which was fairly expected given their cowardice; but the mainstream right seemed to be as pusillanimous. Guess it's hard to vote against the confidence when the Prime minister is from your own ranks... This is the record of the lowest expressed opposition for a vote of confidence (11.6%). This Chamber is so out of touch with the political reality of the country... Edit—Detailed votes: + Show Spoiler + Composition/positioning of groups: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/471672-european-politico-economics-qa-mega-thread?page=902#18022 Mainstream right (99/100) 1 for 23 against 75 abstention Constructive right (35/35) 12 for 23 abstention Social-democrats (31/31) 3 for 5 against 23 abstention France Insoumise (17/17) 17 against PCF + misc (16/16) 12 against 4 abstention Beauty of parliamentary postures: the proclaimed "opposition" doesn't assume to be the opposition, satellites don't really assume to be satellites... Only one group has a clear, unified stance against the majority. lowest expression of opposition, lots of abstains. Sounds to me they are very much in touch with the voting public. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
On July 05 2017 20:34 Big J wrote: Good news for Italy, Austria won't deploy tanks at the Brenner said our chancellor today. We'll be easy on you. ![]() LOL. Italy has to be the most uninfluential country ever internationally... I guess you can't expect to be trusted when you switched sides two times in a row during World Wars... | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10137 Posts
On July 04 2017 23:18 LegalLord wrote: The best way to have lower per capita applications is to be far from the Turkish border and have a lot of people. An absolute number is a far more useful one in this case because "per capita" doesn't really mean anything. A very high unemployment works best | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On July 05 2017 20:42 SoSexy wrote: LOL. Italy has to be the most uninfluential country ever internationally... I guess you can't expect to be trusted when you switched sides two times in a row during World Wars... Don't say that. If you press the issue further our socialdemocrats may even do without heavy artillery. But in all seriousness, we have elections coming up. Conservatives are pretending they can close the meditereanian, SDs are calling this unrealistic, so they are now pretending they can close the routes into Austria. Lots of hot air. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On July 05 2017 20:42 SoSexy wrote: LOL. Italy has to be the most uninfluential country ever internationally... I guess you can't expect to be trusted when you switched sides two times in a row during World Wars... We're not worried of Italy, we just want to keep Roma in check. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
On July 05 2017 21:11 nojok wrote: We're not worried of Italy, we just want to keep Roma in check. TBH this world could use a bit of Pax Romana these days. | ||
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SoupeAuLait
4 Posts
On July 05 2017 21:33 Ghostcom wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 05 2017 21:11 nojok wrote: We're not worried of Italy, we just want to keep Roma in check. TBH this world could use a bit of Pax Romana these days. We just had about 70 years of pax americana which were not that bad. For us anyways, south america might disagree. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On July 06 2017 04:31 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Pax MAD. It's all tongue in cheek big J. But the last few years has been the most peaceful the European continent has been since forever. At least more peaceful than those under Pax kremlin. Sure, yet I still have the feeling it is still semi-serious when comments are clearly formulated as "except for SA". I don't want this to become a rant, so let me just vaguely say that, I believe they and their success are no different from former Empires. It's mainly about military power and supression, nothing else. | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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Silvanel
Poland4742 Posts
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
Next week, the majority will vote the law which authorizes Macron to destroy workers' rights by decree (actual, precise content not known before September when decrees are published; only general principles are known for now). 107 years of workers' rights to be "rewritten" by the Prince and a bunch of technocrats while no one knows the exact extent of what will be smashed by the bulldozer. | ||
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