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Although this thread does not function under the same strict guidelines as the USPMT, it is still a general practice on TL to provide a source with an explanation on why it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion. Failure to do so will result in a mod action.
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-04 14:24:15
July 04 2017 14:22 GMT
#18101
Per capita does mean a lot though,its an indicator for the impact it has on the natural population and on the society.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8145 Posts
July 04 2017 16:30 GMT
#18102
On July 01 2017 02:11 TheDwf wrote:
Collective delirium and drug consumption in Macronie:

+ Show Spoiler +





Not a bad choice anyway; Hermès is known as the god of thieves!

Between that and Boutin who thinks she is Moses, we are a bit fucked..

The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-04 18:01:52
July 04 2017 17:15 GMT
#18103
After King Macron's rather bland speech in front of the Congress yesterday, the Prime Minister had his general policy speech today. The resulting vote of confidence (out of 566 votes):

370 for
67 against
129 abstention

Strict majority is at 360, so there are 10 extra votes among the satellites. Social-democrats chose to abstain (despite clear indications of a right-wing policy from the government), which was fairly expected given their cowardice; but the mainstream right seemed to be as pusillanimous. Guess it's hard to vote against the confidence when the Prime minister is from your own ranks...

This is the record of the lowest expressed opposition for a vote of confidence (11.6%). This Chamber is so out of touch with the political reality of the country...

Edit—Detailed votes:

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Composition/positioning of groups: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/471672-european-politico-economics-qa-mega-thread?page=902#18022

EM (305/314)
305 for

Mainstream right (99/100)
1 for
23 against
75 abstention

MODEM (46/47)
46 for

Constructive right (35/35)
12 for
23 abstention

Social-democrats (31/31)
3 for
5 against
23 abstention

France Insoumise (17/17)
17 against

PCF + misc (16/16)
12 against
4 abstention

Non-registered (17/17)
3 for
10 against [FN + Dupont-Aignan]
4 abstention

Beauty of parliamentary postures: the proclaimed "opposition" doesn't assume to be the opposition, satellites don't really assume to be satellites... Only one group has a clear, unified stance against the majority.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22471 Posts
July 04 2017 17:52 GMT
#18104
On July 05 2017 02:15 TheDwf wrote:
After King Macron's rather bland speech in front of the Congress yesterday, the Prime Minister had his general policy speech today. The resulting vote of confidence (out of 566 votes):

370 for
67 against
129 abstention

Strict majority is at 360, so there are 10 extra votes among the satellites. Social-democrats chose to abstain (despite clear indications of a right-wing policy from the government), which was fairly expected given their cowardice; but the mainstream right seemed to be as pusillanimous. Guess it's hard to vote against the confidence when the Prime minister is from your own ranks...

This is the record of the lowest expressed opposition for a vote of confidence (11.6%). This Chamber is so out of touch with the political reality of the country...

Edit—Detailed votes:

+ Show Spoiler +
Composition/positioning of groups: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/471672-european-politico-economics-qa-mega-thread?page=902#18022

Mainstream right (99/100)
1 for
23 against
75 abstention

Constructive right (35/35)
12 for
23 abstention

Social-democrats (31/31)
3 for
5 against
23 abstention

France Insoumise (17/17)
17 against

PCF + misc (16/16)
12 against
4 abstention

Beauty of parliamentary postures: the proclaimed "opposition" doesn't assume to be the opposition, satellites don't really assume to be satellites... Only one group has a clear, unified stance against the majority.

lowest expression of opposition, lots of abstains. Sounds to me they are very much in touch with the voting public.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 05 2017 11:34 GMT
#18105
Good news for Italy, Austria won't deploy tanks at the Brenner said our chancellor today. We'll be easy on you.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-05 11:43:51
July 05 2017 11:42 GMT
#18106
On July 05 2017 20:34 Big J wrote:
Good news for Italy, Austria won't deploy tanks at the Brenner said our chancellor today. We'll be easy on you.


LOL. Italy has to be the most uninfluential country ever internationally... I guess you can't expect to be trusted when you switched sides two times in a row during World Wars...
Dating thread on TL LUL
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10152 Posts
July 05 2017 11:49 GMT
#18107
On July 04 2017 23:18 LegalLord wrote:
The best way to have lower per capita applications is to be far from the Turkish border and have a lot of people.

An absolute number is a far more useful one in this case because "per capita" doesn't really mean anything.

A very high unemployment works best
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 05 2017 12:06 GMT
#18108
On July 05 2017 20:42 SoSexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 20:34 Big J wrote:
Good news for Italy, Austria won't deploy tanks at the Brenner said our chancellor today. We'll be easy on you.


LOL. Italy has to be the most uninfluential country ever internationally... I guess you can't expect to be trusted when you switched sides two times in a row during World Wars...

Don't say that. If you press the issue further our socialdemocrats may even do without heavy artillery.

But in all seriousness, we have elections coming up. Conservatives are pretending they can close the meditereanian, SDs are calling this unrealistic, so they are now pretending they can close the routes into Austria. Lots of hot air.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 05 2017 12:11 GMT
#18109
On July 05 2017 20:42 SoSexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 20:34 Big J wrote:
Good news for Italy, Austria won't deploy tanks at the Brenner said our chancellor today. We'll be easy on you.


LOL. Italy has to be the most uninfluential country ever internationally... I guess you can't expect to be trusted when you switched sides two times in a row during World Wars...

We're not worried of Italy, we just want to keep Roma in check.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
July 05 2017 12:33 GMT
#18110
On July 05 2017 21:11 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 20:42 SoSexy wrote:
On July 05 2017 20:34 Big J wrote:
Good news for Italy, Austria won't deploy tanks at the Brenner said our chancellor today. We'll be easy on you.


LOL. Italy has to be the most uninfluential country ever internationally... I guess you can't expect to be trusted when you switched sides two times in a row during World Wars...

We're not worried of Italy, we just want to keep Roma in check.


TBH this world could use a bit of Pax Romana these days.
SoupeAuLait
Profile Joined June 2017
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-05 18:05:53
July 05 2017 18:02 GMT
#18111
On July 05 2017 21:33 Ghostcom wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 05 2017 21:11 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 20:42 SoSexy wrote:
On July 05 2017 20:34 Big J wrote:
Good news for Italy, Austria won't deploy tanks at the Brenner said our chancellor today. We'll be easy on you.


LOL. Italy has to be the most uninfluential country ever internationally... I guess you can't expect to be trusted when you switched sides two times in a row during World Wars...

We're not worried of Italy, we just want to keep Roma in check.


TBH this world could use a bit of Pax Romana these days.


We just had about 70 years of pax americana which were not that bad. For us anyways, south america might disagree.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-05 18:27:56
July 05 2017 18:27 GMT
#18112
It sure beat pax kremlin for sure for those who had to live under it.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 05 2017 18:54 GMT
#18113
"Pax" Americana/Kremlin. You know propaganda works when people come up with such terms.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-05 19:40:13
July 05 2017 19:31 GMT
#18114
Pax MAD. It's all tongue in cheek big J. But the last few years has been the most peaceful the European continent has been since forever. At least more peaceful than those under Pax kremlin.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
July 05 2017 20:34 GMT
#18115
Ukraine could disagree. And earlier on there was Georgia, Chechnya, Yugoslavia. We'd have to go back to the 80's to have a decade of peace in Europe.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 05 2017 21:08 GMT
#18116
On July 06 2017 04:31 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Pax MAD. It's all tongue in cheek big J. But the last few years has been the most peaceful the European continent has been since forever. At least more peaceful than those under Pax kremlin.


Sure, yet I still have the feeling it is still semi-serious when comments are clearly formulated as "except for SA". I don't want this to become a rant, so let me just vaguely say that, I believe they and their success are no different from former Empires. It's mainly about military power and supression, nothing else.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
July 06 2017 11:02 GMT
#18117
Ok, after what happened in Tallinn today, Italy is now completely fucked over the immigrants issue.
Dating thread on TL LUL
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
July 06 2017 12:16 GMT
#18118
??? What do You refer to?
Pathetic Greta hater.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
July 06 2017 12:37 GMT
#18119
Ministers of Justice and Interor are meeting in Tallinn today.
passive quaranstream fan
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 06 2017 15:02 GMT
#18120
State of emergency prolonged for the 6th time until November the 1st. Touching unanimity in securitarian demagogy from the fauxcialists to the far-right. Zombie majority didn't even bother to reinforce parliamentary control, as suggested from a "constructive" centre-right guy. The next law should make the state of emergency fairly permanent... after which it will be stopped, in the purest Orwellian style. Only the radical left voted against. (137 for vs 13 against.)

Next week, the majority will vote the law which authorizes Macron to destroy workers' rights by decree (actual, precise content not known before September when decrees are published; only general principles are known for now). 107 years of workers' rights to be "rewritten" by the Prince and a bunch of technocrats while no one knows the exact extent of what will be smashed by the bulldozer.
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