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Velr
Switzerland10873 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15365 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On May 01 2019 00:00 Velr wrote: Uhm, i check Spiegel and Zeit daily and didn't notice any particular upswing in their reporting on the FPÖ? It has been all over the Austrian newspapers that the German newspapers are writing like crazy about the FPÖ these days. I believe the main reason is that "Bild" picked up the topic and also that journalists themselves are quite nervous about the open, unanswered hostility from the FPÖ. https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/ein-polit-schauspiel-in-vier-akten-das-irre-oesi-theater-61567634.bild.html https://www.bild.de/politik/kolumnen/kolumne/kommentar-zum-aerger-mit-der-fpoe-kurz-braucht-einen-plan-b-61567332.bild.html https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/oesterreich-alarmierend-1.4425910 https://www.welt.de/debatte/kommentare/plus192633695/Oesterreich-FPOe-auf-duennem-demokratischen-Pappmaschee.html I'm mostly following "Zeit" myself when it comes to German news and I think they only did this short article: https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2019-04/oesterreich-fpoe-politiker-rauswurf-armin-wolf-orf-forderungen | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
Since the Interior was worried about possible violences in Paris, they unleashed their own violence first. They attacked the procession before the demonstration even began, even charging clearly identified unions. The general secretary from the main union had to leave the demonstration because of tear gas, and some of the unions simply left the demonstration because they could not advance in tear gas and cop charges. They were all scandalized, saying that they had never seen something like this before. The minister of Interior tried to manipulate events to create a scandal. He said that demonstrators had "attacked" a hospital. This gross propaganda had already been used in 2016, when one guy hitting the windows of the Necker hospital had become a national scandal which had almost totally erased the big national demonstration in June. But this time, thanks to the quick reaction of the Internet, the minister of Interior got caught almost red-handed. In fact, what happened was this: at some point of the demonstration, cops saturated the atmosphere with tear gas and attacked the crowd, apparently for no precise reason according to people there. The crowd was dense and there was no one else to go (cops had closed all neighbouring streets, etc., the demonstration was essentially a big mobile prison). Demonstrators couldn't breathe, they were attacked by cops, so they panicked and forced a gate to protect themselves, without knowing that this gate was the enclosure of a hospital. They tried to shelter in the building but of course the nursing staff denied them the entrance. They were then evacuated by cops. The minister of Interior, assisted by top bureaucrats from the direction, said that an attack had occurred, that someone from the nursing staff had been physically assaulted, that material stuff had been stolen, etc. Everything was completely wrong. Dumb live mainstream medias of course spread the disinformation without even checking, governments never lie and their Word is sacred. The manipulation was debunked the morning after, with some interviews of the nursing staff and the testimony from demonstrators themselves. During the whole day, more and more testimonies came explaining how the minister had gone total bullshit with his "thesis" of an attack. 34 people who had entered the enclosure of the hospital were held in custody for 30 hours, eventually they got released but are still facing an investigation. They held a conference press, denouncing the cop violences which had caused them to flee, humiliations and pressures after their arrest, and macronists' lies and political exploitation about the events. Many voices in the opposition asked for the resignation of the minister of Interior, criticizing a "State lie". The minister might be heard by the Senate about this affair. All he conceded was that he should have talked about a "violent intrusion" rather than an "attack". The Prime minister renewed his full confidence in him—after all, lying is an essential asset for macronists, and with the Interior guy he clearly has a champion (in quantity, not quality...) in his team. The day was again filled with cop violence. Three examples: + Show Spoiler + 1. A cop throwing a pavement at the crowd. Cop unions said that "maybe it was legitimate defence and he did this because he had run out of ammo". Yes, you read it right and no, I'm not kidding. 2. No comment. Demonstrators lowered the curtain themselves if you wonder. 3.Here, a cop trying to do… stuff with his baton near a demonstrator's ass. The European campaign is not going well for macronists. The head of their list is horrible. Polls are not very good for them, the far-right is again leading in some of them. As of now, the turnout might be as low as 40%. There are 33 lists registered, but half of them should barely score above 0%. Macronists and the far-right are around 22%, ahead of the mainstream right with ~14%, ahead of the left and ecologists around 8,5% each. The remaining lists, including "social-democrats," are not assured of scoring above the 5% threshold necessary to get representatives. There were less yellow vests in the streets in the last two Saturdays. Some roundabouts were reclaimed last Saturday but the global mobilization hit a record low. We will see in the following weeks if this decline is situational or structural. There is a day of strike Thursday in the whole public function (which should be quite followed), and naturally an "act 26" of the yellow vests will happen Saturday. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10873 Posts
If there was any doubt left, Turkye is now officially a dictatorship. | ||
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HolydaKing
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Archeon
3265 Posts
Loosing Istanbul, while unpleasant, is nothing really threatening for Erdogan. The more it becomes obvious that the division of power is nullified the less argument his supporters have for the democratic legitimacy of what the AKP does and the more his powerbase will crumble. | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On May 07 2019 17:49 Archeon wrote: Tbh that's likely good in the long run, my impression from Turkey is that it's a fairly "western" country with strong liberal tendencies in the populace at least in the region with high population density. Loosing Istanbul, while unpleasant, is nothing really threatening for Erdogan. The more it becomes obvious that the division of power is nullified the less argument his supporters have for the democratic legitimacy of what the AKP does and the more his powerbase will crumble. That was my theory as well for a time. And then the coup attempt happened and everything went back to square one :/ | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7142 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On May 07 2019 23:59 Harris1st wrote: So Austria, France and Turkey are doing shady stuff? Good time to be German for once :D You could say: "Germany over everything!" | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18259 Posts
That said, I don't know much about them, and the information I find on what they stand for is a bit chaotic. Does anybody have anything more on Volt? Or should I just keep figuring this out for myself. I have a cousin in Holland who is very enthusiastic about Volt, but he seemed very enthusiastic about the *idea* of Volt without actually knowing exactly what they stood for on various issues, other than being in favour of finding ways to further democratize Europe together. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On May 08 2019 02:44 Acrofales wrote: I'm starting to look into the EU elections. Being Dutch and voting in Spain (Catalonia, in fact) makes things complicated, as I hate absolutely all the "traditional" parties here. I could vote for Podemos, but honestly I feel that allying with die-hard communists in Europe is a bit too much for me. I've voted for the Pirate Party before, but in all honesty, they look extremely amateuristic here in Spain (for starters, they only even appear to have a presence in Catalonia, and not much of one at that). So that would be about as useful as not voting at all. So I'm at a bit of a loss what to vote for. I am seriously considering Volt. They seem mostly aligned with what I want... and being pan-European seems like a clever new idea. That said, I don't know much about them, and the information I find on what they stand for is a bit chaotic. Does anybody have anything more on Volt? Or should I just keep figuring this out for myself. I have a cousin in Holland who is very enthusiastic about Volt, but he seemed very enthusiastic about the *idea* of Volt without actually knowing exactly what they stood for on various issues, other than being in favour of finding ways to further democratize Europe together. As a Dutch person can't you choose to vote for Dutch parties at your embassy? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18259 Posts
On May 08 2019 03:00 Big J wrote: As a Dutch person can't you choose to vote for Dutch parties at your embassy? Don't think so. And if I could've, it's too late now. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9292 Posts
If you live in your home country, you can only vote for the EU candidates standing for election in your own country. If you are registered and live in another EU country, you can: ▪ vote for candidates standing in your home country or ▪ participate in the election of your host country and vote for candidates standing in that country. https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/elections-abroad/european-elections/index_en.htm The linked website says some countries atomatically register their citizens. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18259 Posts
On May 08 2019 03:48 Sent. wrote: You have almost 3 weeks, that's a lot of time. The linked website says some countries atomatically register their citizens. I got sent a census thingy by the Spanish government asking me if I was voting in the EU elections and I said yes, so I presume I cannot now go to the consulate and ask to vote there. I said yes, because it's together with the municipal elections,so convenience: I wasn't really thinking about what parties were presenting themselves. Anyway, I've definitely ruled out voting for PP, PSOE, PdeCat (JxC), ERC, Cs or Vox. So it's Podemos or one of the small ones. Was hoping someone had some insights into Volt, more than advice on how I could vote in the Netherlands instead  | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22215 Posts
On May 08 2019 19:28 Acrofales wrote: Since EU Parliamentarians for themselves into coalitions you can also at these coalitions and see if any Spanish parties you can vote for are aligned with a Dutch party that you would otherwise vote for.I got sent a census thingy by the Spanish government asking me if I was voting in the EU elections and I said yes, so I presume I cannot now go to the consulate and ask to vote there. I said yes, because it's together with the municipal elections,so convenience: I wasn't really thinking about what parties were presenting themselves. Anyway, I've definitely ruled out voting for PP, PSOE, PdeCat (JxC), ERC, Cs or Vox. So it's Podemos or one of the small ones. Was hoping someone had some insights into Volt, more than advice on how I could vote in the Netherlands instead | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
So far I have read and watched only very little about them. I'd say they have a typical Liberal-Green/Pirate Agenda with a focus on reforming the European Union into a more republican organization with more democracy, unified ruling and federalism and less national competition. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9812 Posts
 Hopefully this sends a message to our government to sort this out. Progressive human rights have gone out of the window for UK prisoners. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/10/dutch-court-blocks-extradition-of-man-to-inhumane-uk-prisons Judges in the Netherlands have refused to send a suspected drug smuggler back to the UK because of concerns that conditions in British jails are inhumane. An initial application to extradite the unnamed man, who had been on the run for two years, was refused this week due to the reported state of HMP Liverpool where he would probably be sent. The court of Amsterdam heard how inspectors had found “some of the most disturbing prison conditions we have ever seen” and “conditions which have no place in an advanced nation in the 21st century”, in reference to report on the state of prisons in the UK published last July. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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