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BirdKiller
United States428 Posts
On the business side, it seems quite expensive and steeped with potential regulatory landmines (airspace, neighborhood policies, mail handling) just to serve folks within a 10 mile radius. I don't think Amazon is seriously planning this method of delivery to be THEIR delivery of the future. As they say, it's in the research and development phase, and like many R&D stages, they'll probably acquire something even more practical and efficient solutions on the way. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Besides nobody thinks the drones max range will always be 10 miles I'm sure they will expand, besides i'm sure Bezos plans to build fleets of them and maybe even have the leap from distribution center to distribution center. | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
On December 02 2013 12:56 FabledIntegral wrote: Feel like it would make things easy to steal... How would it be different than leaving a box in front of your door while you aren't even home? | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On December 02 2013 12:57 Najda wrote: How would it be different than leaving a box in front of your door while you aren't even home? Wait what? Do they just leave your stuff in front of the door if you aren't at home in the US? | ||
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
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skunk_works
United States109 Posts
On December 02 2013 13:01 Musicus wrote: Wait what? Do they just leave your stuff in front of the door if you aren't at home in the US? I've actually had the ups drop the package at my neighbors house when I wasn't home, and I don't even know my neighbor. I called them up and bitched them out good for that one. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On December 02 2013 13:02 TheFish7 wrote: Amazon only has something like 30 fulfillment centers in the US. Even if they were to have this service available at all of them, that would leave the vast majority of households out of range. This idea only becomes viable if you can somehow increase the range of the drones without also increasing the cost of delivery. Clearly says they have 96 in the OP. | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On December 02 2013 13:01 Musicus wrote: Most packages are left at the door because that massively increases efficiency. Certain items, like expensive stuff that would be a liability for a consumer to lie about not being delivered, must be signed for.Wait what? Do they just leave your stuff in front of the door if you aren't at home in the US? | ||
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
That's only 960 miles out of the entire world | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On December 02 2013 13:12 calgar wrote: Most packages are left at the door because that massively increases efficiency. Certain items, like expensive stuff that would be a liability for a consumer to lie about not being delivered, must be signed for. That's interesting, seems kinda risky though. They never do this here. Who is liable if the packet just disappears? On December 02 2013 13:07 skunk_works wrote: I've actually had the ups drop the package at my neighbors house when I wasn't home, and I don't even know my neighbor. I called them up and bitched them out good for that one. Haha, well that's the standard procedure here. The neighbours have to sign, so it's fine I guees. Better than walking to the next post office. | ||
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ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
Here's a fun one if you want to see what drones are capable of: | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On December 02 2013 13:01 Musicus wrote: Wait what? Do they just leave your stuff in front of the door if you aren't at home in the US? I've had this happen even here. Lucky for me that none of my neighbour steal so I didn't lose it lol | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
Certain items can't be released. If its declared to be worth over X amount, if its a firearm or booze. Those things must be signed for by someone of age to be in possession of them. If a certain house/apartment/building has a few driver releases reported stolen that place will be black listed from being allowed to DR at because it's obviously not safe to just leave something there. But between giving a driver as many stops as humanly possible, not wanting anything brought back to the warehouse, people wanting their stuff ASAP its VERY common practice to knock once and just DR the thing instantly and get back on your route. If you leave it somewhere odd you're supposed to leave a post it, which are scanned so they can confirm that a notice was left. If its undeliverable like they need a signature you get 3 chances for delivery and it's sent back to the place it came from. UPS can afford to just DR shit and hope the right person gets it, they might take some items on the chin sometimes if they get stolen but the fact that their driver's can just launch a box by the garage service door and GTFO means a more productivity, means more money so they don't really care. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On December 02 2013 13:33 OuchyDathurts wrote: UPS can do a "Driver Release" where the driver releases the package either on site, preferably someplace hidden from view from street traffic, or a neighbor. Its mostly about not slowing the driver down so he can make as many stops as possible. They don't want you coming back with any packages if possible, and customers generally just want their shit, they don't want to have to wait an extra day for it. Certain items can't be released. If its declared to be worth over X amount, if its a firearm or booze. Those things must be signed for by someone of age to be in possession of them. If a certain house/apartment/building has a few driver releases reported stolen that place will be black listed from being allowed to DR at because it's obviously not safe to just leave something there. But between giving a driver as many stops as humanly possible, not wanting anything brought back to the warehouse, people wanting their stuff ASAP its VERY common practice to knock once and just DR the thing instantly and get back on your route. If you leave it somewhere odd you're supposed to leave a post it, which are scanned so they can confirm that a notice was left. If its undeliverable like they need a signature you get 3 chances for delivery and it's sent back to the place it came from. UPS can afford to just DR shit and hope the right person gets it, they might take some items on the chin sometimes if they get stolen but the fact that their driver's can just launch a box by the garage service door and GTFO means a more productivity, means more money so they don't really care. Thanks for the explanation. So UPS just pays in the rare case something gets stolen, but it's nothing compared to the time and money they safe by DR. And then the house just gets black listed, smart. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On December 02 2013 12:57 Najda wrote: How would it be different than leaving a box in front of your door while you aren't even home? I was more so envisioning people just walking up to the drone and talking the package :S. | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On December 02 2013 13:42 Musicus wrote: Thanks for the explanation. So UPS just pays in the rare case something gets stolen, but it's nothing compared to the time and money they safe by DR. And then the house just gets black listed, smart. Yup. They really milk their drivers, especially in holiday season. They deliver so much stuff its insane and your shift isn't over till you've delivered everything. They have an expected time average so they figure you should be able to knock out all your stops in 9 hours but sometimes that doesn't happen through no fault of the driver. They might send another driver who already finished his load to grab some stuff from you and help you finish up. But they track everything so if you're slacking off and running over time your ass is toast. They even have a "wall of shame" where they'll post the GPS route a driver took from stop A to stop B if it's a completely retarded route, like why did you drive around the block when you could have taken a U turn here and saved 30 seconds? Though its generally just for busting someone's balls about being an idiot, efficiency is everything. Granted if one driver has had the same route a while he's got it nailed down pretty good, knows where to leave stuff, knows who will sign for things, knows a certain client isn't even at his office on fridays so he can skip that one, etc. But they know how to run their drivers ragged and squeeze the maximum out of them. Also some drivers that have a regular route will give their client's their cellphone number. If I deliver to your building everyday at 9AM and you're not there till 10AM every day you give me a call, I'll tell you to meet me at the McDonald's parking lot since I'll be passing through there in 5 minutes as part of my route and I'll just give you your packages there and you can throw them in your car. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On December 02 2013 13:16 TheFish7 wrote: That's only 960 miles out of the entire world ... I don't think you know how a radius works T_T | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On December 02 2013 14:23 Pokebunny wrote: ... I don't think you know how a radius works T_T Haha, to be fair I didn't catch his mistake at first either... | ||
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