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Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 02:20:00
December 07 2013 02:19 GMT
#101
The future is coming! <3 I can't wait.
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Lockitupv2
Profile Joined March 2012
United States496 Posts
December 07 2013 08:21 GMT
#102
Government uses drones to kill and spy on people.

The free market uses drones to deliver products to you quicker.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
December 23 2013 08:47 GMT
#103
On December 07 2013 17:21 Lockitupv2 wrote:
Government uses drones to kill and spy on people.

The free market uses drones to deliver products to you quicker.

Hopefully amazon doesn't use this system in Iraq then
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Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2655 Posts
December 23 2013 09:45 GMT
#104
On December 06 2013 13:18 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 07:58 hp.Shell wrote:
On December 03 2013 11:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
I don't really get the 'why' in its current form, but it's pretty cool tech.


The whole point of this, from a long-term perspective, is to monopolize the shipping market. When you can order anything from Amazon and have it delivered by drone within one hour, give or take, there's a pretty small chance of you shopping somewhere else that takes 24 hours minimum to deliver.

No, that's not the point. They have no intention of monopolizing the shipping market, not even in the long term because so far, even they know that there's no way going for that could be viable in the foreseeable future. It's just an extra service at bet. They know that without years of R&D and huge investments, this isn't going to be cheap and it won't be possible to expand it to the entire population. It has other limitations too, like weather, weight and sized of the package, etc.

That said, it would be awesome if warehouses became fully automated.
The automated forklift goes and picks up item off the shelf, puts it on a drone, which leaves, drops off package and comes back... I can picture warehouses with tens of drones flying in and out at any given moment. The only staff would be engineers dealing with the drones.

Not going to happen but it would be cool.


My gf worked at a major brewery and they had drone trucks fetching everything. 1 guy on shift monitoring the trucks instead of 22 truck drivers as before.

She was really scared of going into the warehouse but of course it was completely harmless, the trucks stopped as soon as something was in their paths.
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 10:05:10
December 23 2013 10:04 GMT
#105
On December 23 2013 18:45 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 13:18 Djzapz wrote:
On December 06 2013 07:58 hp.Shell wrote:
On December 03 2013 11:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
I don't really get the 'why' in its current form, but it's pretty cool tech.


The whole point of this, from a long-term perspective, is to monopolize the shipping market. When you can order anything from Amazon and have it delivered by drone within one hour, give or take, there's a pretty small chance of you shopping somewhere else that takes 24 hours minimum to deliver.

No, that's not the point. They have no intention of monopolizing the shipping market, not even in the long term because so far, even they know that there's no way going for that could be viable in the foreseeable future. It's just an extra service at bet. They know that without years of R&D and huge investments, this isn't going to be cheap and it won't be possible to expand it to the entire population. It has other limitations too, like weather, weight and sized of the package, etc.

That said, it would be awesome if warehouses became fully automated.
The automated forklift goes and picks up item off the shelf, puts it on a drone, which leaves, drops off package and comes back... I can picture warehouses with tens of drones flying in and out at any given moment. The only staff would be engineers dealing with the drones.

Not going to happen but it would be cool.


My gf worked at a major brewery and they had drone trucks fetching everything. 1 guy on shift monitoring the trucks instead of 22 truck drivers as before.

She was really scared of going into the warehouse but of course it was completely harmless, the trucks stopped as soon as something was in their paths.


Technology has improved so much that most transport vehicles are on autopilot and the drivers are simply there because people watch too many movies.

Bullet trains are completely autopiloted afaik, and pilots for large passenger aircraft barely touch any of the instruments except for takeoff and landing, and even then a lot of it is computerised.
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 11:33:27
December 23 2013 11:33 GMT
#106
I can imagine kids destroying drones on sight for fun

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Profile Joined July 2010
United States462 Posts
December 23 2013 12:01 GMT
#107
On December 02 2013 13:01 Musicus wrote:
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On December 02 2013 12:57 Najda wrote:
On December 02 2013 12:56 FabledIntegral wrote:
Feel like it would make things easy to steal...


How would it be different than leaving a box in front of your door while you aren't even home?


Wait what? Do they just leave your stuff in front of the door if you aren't at home in the US?


All the time in many places depending on the neighborhood you live it. It's not likely for packages to be stolen when they're on most doorsteps.
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
December 23 2013 12:15 GMT
#108
On December 23 2013 21:01 ClanRH.TV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 13:01 Musicus wrote:
On December 02 2013 12:57 Najda wrote:
On December 02 2013 12:56 FabledIntegral wrote:
Feel like it would make things easy to steal...


How would it be different than leaving a box in front of your door while you aren't even home?


Wait what? Do they just leave your stuff in front of the door if you aren't at home in the US?


All the time in many places depending on the neighborhood you live it. It's not likely for packages to be stolen when they're on most doorsteps.


I must have seen some 999 youtube vids of people having a camera outside their door and ppl just pulling up, taking the packages and leaving. Crazy in my opinion to just leave it at the door..
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shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
December 23 2013 13:24 GMT
#109
see this one of the ingenious ideas that work out great in a utopian society, but will fail horribly in ours...
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 13:55:18
December 23 2013 13:54 GMT
#110
Things that are problematic for now.

- Ok GPS tracks your home. But how does it know where your door is ?
- If a dog/children is in the way. How to provent the helix to chop them when they approach ?
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quebecman77
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada133 Posts
December 23 2013 14:01 GMT
#111
What people will do for work in about 30 years ?? We will get even more people not working and robot doing all the work for a few rich people ??

That's really cool but think about how many people will lose job if something like that go mainstream ( and better )

Right now in most field, robot can do better that man and most job change at a terrible pace for remove real people worker everywhere.... I'm not finding that ''cool'' .
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 23 2013 14:02 GMT
#112
On December 23 2013 23:01 quebecman77 wrote:
What people will do for work in about 30 years ?? We will get even more people not working and robot doing all the work for a few rich people ??

That's really cool but think about how many people will lose job if something like that go mainstream ( and better )

Right now in most field, robot can do better that man and most job change at a terrible pace for remove real people worker everywhere.... I'm not finding that ''cool'' .


Well... You need people to build and watch the drones + maintenance.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 23 2013 16:58 GMT
#113
On December 23 2013 23:01 quebecman77 wrote:
What people will do for work in about 30 years ?? We will get even more people not working and robot doing all the work for a few rich people ??

That's really cool but think about how many people will lose job if something like that go mainstream ( and better )

Right now in most field, robot can do better that man and most job change at a terrible pace for remove real people worker everywhere.... I'm not finding that ''cool'' .


Washing machines, printers , digital downloads , cds, tapes , radio,TV, movies have all replaced old jobs people do.

During the agricultural revolution farmers lost their jobs and people were going crazy protesting. During the Insdustrial Revolution people working in things ranging from clothes to wood lost their jobs...

We're still here. People adapt.

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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 23 2013 17:13 GMT
#114
On December 23 2013 20:33 iFU.pauline wrote:
I can imagine kids destroying drones on sight for fun

"wow today i got a psp"


Well, I can imagine those drones having cameras attached.

If not for that reason, then because NSA wants eyes everywhere anyway.
Moonsalt
Profile Joined May 2011
267 Posts
December 23 2013 18:33 GMT
#115
What if I catch one mid-air? Can I keep it ? :3
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
December 23 2013 18:47 GMT
#116
It's hard for me to believe that this form of transportation is ever going to reach the mass market.
As a premium feature for a couple of people it's ok, and I guess this is also Amazon's idea.
In fact, once the range limit is gone, this would be ideal to transport stuff to places that are hard to reach, e.g.: huts on the mountain, islands without airport etc...

But if you want to scale this up to millions of people you gonna run into problems.
Also, the system would have to be 100% save until the FFA is gonna allow a single one of those.

I believe that a better solution would be to connect houses with a centralized underground transportation system.
Just like every house is nowadys connected to canalization, every house could be connected to an automated underground delivery system.
Iceman331
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1306 Posts
December 23 2013 19:55 GMT
#117
On December 23 2013 22:54 FFW_Rude wrote:
Things that are problematic for now.

- Ok GPS tracks your home. But how does it know where your door is ?
- If a dog/children is in the way. How to provent the helix to chop them when they approach ?


Both easily solved with cameras and a bit of code. The issue with this is NOT the technology. The technology exists and it could be implemented today and function just fine. The issue is with regulations and getting insurance companies to agree etc.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 11:06:46
December 24 2013 11:05 GMT
#118
On December 24 2013 04:55 Iceman331 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 22:54 FFW_Rude wrote:
Things that are problematic for now.

- Ok GPS tracks your home. But how does it know where your door is ?
- If a dog/children is in the way. How to provent the helix to chop them when they approach ?


Both easily solved with cameras and a bit of code. The issue with this is NOT the technology. The technology exists and it could be implemented today and function just fine. The issue is with regulations and getting insurance companies to agree etc.


Well if you have a camera, you need someone to pilot the drone no ? So not really automatic. How can the drone prevent a child or dog for running into it ?

Also there is nothing "easy" in programming such programs (i mean like it's huge things that needs so much testing etc...)

I do agree with you though (though i don't have to, because it's a fact) about regulation.
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Setev
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Malaysia390 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 11:51:18
December 24 2013 11:50 GMT
#119
What about 3D printing? Those thing are already around (remember the guy who got in the spotlight by sending out schematics of 3D-printable firearms onto the internet?), though not yet in mass production. Pretty soon, you can have one in your home, replacing your inkjet printer.

Then Amazon can just give you a download link after you made payment, and you can download the schematics to your smartphone and then print it out with your 3D Printer.

No drones/airspace laws to worry about.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 24 2013 11:54 GMT
#120
On December 24 2013 20:05 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 04:55 Iceman331 wrote:
On December 23 2013 22:54 FFW_Rude wrote:
Things that are problematic for now.

- Ok GPS tracks your home. But how does it know where your door is ?
- If a dog/children is in the way. How to provent the helix to chop them when they approach ?


Both easily solved with cameras and a bit of code. The issue with this is NOT the technology. The technology exists and it could be implemented today and function just fine. The issue is with regulations and getting insurance companies to agree etc.


Well if you have a camera, you need someone to pilot the drone no ? So not really automatic. How can the drone prevent a child or dog for running into it ?


You don't need a human pilot, no. A computer with half-decent image recognition software can handle those challenges.
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