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Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 06:16:34
December 02 2013 06:15 GMT
#41
On December 02 2013 13:07 skunk_works wrote:
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On December 02 2013 13:01 Musicus wrote:
On December 02 2013 12:57 Najda wrote:
On December 02 2013 12:56 FabledIntegral wrote:
Feel like it would make things easy to steal...


How would it be different than leaving a box in front of your door while you aren't even home?


Wait what? Do they just leave your stuff in front of the door if you aren't at home in the US?



I've actually had the ups drop the package at my neighbors house when I wasn't home, and I don't even know my neighbor. I called them up and bitched them out good for that one.


This has happened to me multiple times. One time it wasn't even a neighbor on the same street but was a few streets down. Luckily they were good people and gave it to me when they had a chance. The other times the package has just been lost. Lost packages worth hundreds of dollars that way. It's pretty stupid.

I actually would trust drones using GPS more than the human error factor involved in a deliveryman. At least it'll end up in the general vicinity of my house.
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
December 02 2013 06:19 GMT
#42
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/430456/november-13-2013/difference-makers---philip-steel

Better hope Phillp Steel doesn't shoot them down.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
December 02 2013 15:46 GMT
#43
On December 02 2013 14:23 Pokebunny wrote:
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On December 02 2013 13:16 TheFish7 wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:09 On_Slaught wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:02 TheFish7 wrote:
Amazon only has something like 30 fulfillment centers in the US. Even if they were to have this service available at all of them, that would leave the vast majority of households out of range. This idea only becomes viable if you can somehow increase the range of the drones without also increasing the cost of delivery.


Clearly says they have 96 in the OP.


That's only 960 miles out of the entire world

... I don't think you know how a radius works T_T


Does it really make a difference? The point is that this is all pie in the sky, perhaps literally, and conveniently spoon fed to media outlets the day before cyber-monday. This is nothing more than a marketing video.
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 02 2013 16:02 GMT
#44
On December 03 2013 00:46 TheFish7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 14:23 Pokebunny wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:16 TheFish7 wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:09 On_Slaught wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:02 TheFish7 wrote:
Amazon only has something like 30 fulfillment centers in the US. Even if they were to have this service available at all of them, that would leave the vast majority of households out of range. This idea only becomes viable if you can somehow increase the range of the drones without also increasing the cost of delivery.


Clearly says they have 96 in the OP.


That's only 960 miles out of the entire world

... I don't think you know how a radius works T_T


Does it really make a difference? The point is that this is all pie in the sky, perhaps literally, and conveniently spoon fed to media outlets the day before cyber-monday. This is nothing more than a marketing video.

well yes, the difference between 960 and over 30000 is at least noteworthy.
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
December 02 2013 16:09 GMT
#45
On December 03 2013 01:02 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 00:46 TheFish7 wrote:
On December 02 2013 14:23 Pokebunny wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:16 TheFish7 wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:09 On_Slaught wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:02 TheFish7 wrote:
Amazon only has something like 30 fulfillment centers in the US. Even if they were to have this service available at all of them, that would leave the vast majority of households out of range. This idea only becomes viable if you can somehow increase the range of the drones without also increasing the cost of delivery.


Clearly says they have 96 in the OP.


That's only 960 miles out of the entire world

... I don't think you know how a radius works T_T


Does it really make a difference? The point is that this is all pie in the sky, perhaps literally, and conveniently spoon fed to media outlets the day before cyber-monday. This is nothing more than a marketing video.

well yes, the difference between 960 and over 30000 is at least noteworthy.


It really isn't though. That amount is just a drop in the bucket compared to the total amount of land area they'd need to cover to make this venture worthwhile. Discussing the mathematics of something that doesn't exist is equally inconsequential.
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
December 02 2013 16:17 GMT
#46
You are missing a key point : it's really cool. I would definitely advise my neighbors to use it so I can see it into action. I would not pay for it though.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43280 Posts
December 02 2013 16:23 GMT
#47
On December 02 2013 13:16 TheFish7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 13:09 On_Slaught wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:02 TheFish7 wrote:
Amazon only has something like 30 fulfillment centers in the US. Even if they were to have this service available at all of them, that would leave the vast majority of households out of range. This idea only becomes viable if you can somehow increase the range of the drones without also increasing the cost of delivery.


Clearly says they have 96 in the OP.


That's only 960 miles out of the entire world

US education system hard at work.
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
December 02 2013 16:27 GMT
#48
I wonder if/how much they get paid by weapons industry to make the name "drone" less scary or even get some positive associations to go with it.
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
December 02 2013 16:57 GMT
#49
I'm sure all the UPS guys who get barked at by my dog like this idea
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 02 2013 17:00 GMT
#50
On December 02 2013 15:15 Leeto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 13:07 skunk_works wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:01 Musicus wrote:
On December 02 2013 12:57 Najda wrote:
On December 02 2013 12:56 FabledIntegral wrote:
Feel like it would make things easy to steal...


How would it be different than leaving a box in front of your door while you aren't even home?


Wait what? Do they just leave your stuff in front of the door if you aren't at home in the US?



I've actually had the ups drop the package at my neighbors house when I wasn't home, and I don't even know my neighbor. I called them up and bitched them out good for that one.


This has happened to me multiple times. One time it wasn't even a neighbor on the same street but was a few streets down. Luckily they were good people and gave it to me when they had a chance. The other times the package has just been lost. Lost packages worth hundreds of dollars that way. It's pretty stupid.

I actually would trust drones using GPS more than the human error factor involved in a deliveryman. At least it'll end up in the general vicinity of my house.


That actually happens rather frequently here too, heh. Amazon is so lovable.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 17:04:37
December 02 2013 17:01 GMT
#51
On December 03 2013 01:57 Ettick wrote:
I'm sure all the UPS guys who get barked at by my dog like this idea


They will also like that these things would probably decapitate 5 dogs a day.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
December 02 2013 17:13 GMT
#52
On December 03 2013 01:23 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 13:16 TheFish7 wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:09 On_Slaught wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:02 TheFish7 wrote:
Amazon only has something like 30 fulfillment centers in the US. Even if they were to have this service available at all of them, that would leave the vast majority of households out of range. This idea only becomes viable if you can somehow increase the range of the drones without also increasing the cost of delivery.


Clearly says they have 96 in the OP.


That's only 960 miles out of the entire world

US education system hard at work.
Somehow I knew that one was coming!

In regards to the drones, I would consider FAA regulation to be a much bigger hurdle compared to actual feasibility. It is amazon after all, and they are willing to sacrifice all their profit to expand their infrastructure.

Having said that, people in the US are much more aware of terrorism potential and terror-related fear is more prevalent. I think the practical ability of drones to be used against commercial airlines is a fear of the FAAs that far outweighs the importance of amazon delivery speed/innovation.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 17:27:06
December 02 2013 17:26 GMT
#53
On December 03 2013 01:23 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 13:16 TheFish7 wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:09 On_Slaught wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:02 TheFish7 wrote:
Amazon only has something like 30 fulfillment centers in the US. Even if they were to have this service available at all of them, that would leave the vast majority of households out of range. This idea only becomes viable if you can somehow increase the range of the drones without also increasing the cost of delivery.


Clearly says they have 96 in the OP.


That's only 960 miles out of the entire world

US education system hard at work.


Yea, I know, there's a good reason I didn't study engineering.

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Saumure
Profile Joined February 2012
France404 Posts
December 02 2013 17:44 GMT
#54
Sounds like some pretty high end BS to me.
How can they cover enough areas? What about the weather? how many 10000 deliveries will a drone make to pay for itself? Why wouldn't I take a drone down to get spare parts for mine? What about a crash?
If they want to make 30min deliveries, why don't they just deliver with motorcycles?
Dogfoodboy16
Profile Joined October 2013
364 Posts
December 02 2013 17:53 GMT
#55
Might as well post the whole interview with Jeff Bezno that 60 minutes conducted

canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
December 02 2013 18:11 GMT
#56
On December 02 2013 14:05 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 12:57 Najda wrote:
On December 02 2013 12:56 FabledIntegral wrote:
Feel like it would make things easy to steal...


How would it be different than leaving a box in front of your door while you aren't even home?


I was more so envisioning people just walking up to the drone and talking the package :S.

I was more so envisioning that the drones will hunt you down and deliver you the package :S
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
December 02 2013 18:26 GMT
#57
Where does the drone land for people living in flats? How the drone even know where to land? What about bad weather? What if you're not home? and finally what's the point if this only serves the people living close to a distribution center?
Especially the range thing seems to make this pointless for something like amazon, I can't imagine the range being improved so much. I suppose it runs on gasoline and those engines are hardly improving anymore nor can i imagine the efficiency of the design improving by more than a factor 2.
If anything this seems more suitable for quick short range delivery, for example pizza's. Food delivery is always close to the restaurant and speed and saving on personal delivery could be a thing. Also seems to have the weight ideal for this sort of thing.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 18:45:15
December 02 2013 18:27 GMT
#58
10 miles radius would cover my city of a million people (Munich, Germany)
Jeff Bezos believes it could be profitable even in its current form. It just works like a pizza delivery. Plus I believe theres still a lot of room for improvement.
I watched that video how flexible those drones can fly and dodge stuff. Im pretty impressed. If they fly high enough i think they would be pretty hard to hit.

I just thought about delivering pizza that way :D i think its feasible

cant believe that people on a fan forum for a scifi game are so pessimistic about new technology.
I still know when people said how useless tablets would be.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 18:38:47
December 02 2013 18:35 GMT
#59
On December 03 2013 03:26 Markwerf wrote:
Where does the drone land for people living in flats? How the drone even know where to land? What about bad weather? What if you're not home? and finally what's the point if this only serves the people living close to a distribution center?
Especially the range thing seems to make this pointless for something like amazon, I can't imagine the range being improved so much. I suppose it runs on gasoline and those engines are hardly improving anymore nor can i imagine the efficiency of the design improving by more than a factor 2.
If anything this seems more suitable for quick short range delivery, for example pizza's. Food delivery is always close to the restaurant and speed and saving on personal delivery could be a thing. Also seems to have the weight ideal for this sort of thing.

Well if you ordered something to arrive in 30 minutes, from your home and aren't at home when the delivery arrives I'd be inclined to call that your fault.
Doesn't look like gasoline at all to me, actually, maybe it is inside that box, I just assumed it's not because of something else in the OP. The entire "I don't think this can be improved" part in your post is an entire load of nonsensical crap. I HIGHLY doubt this thing is maxed out on what it can do.
The point is that you need to start somewhere. Maybe it's going to be a thing maybe it's not but saying that you think this has no future because you think there's no way to improve this any further is just stupid.
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
December 02 2013 18:38 GMT
#60
On December 03 2013 01:09 TheFish7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 01:02 MCDayC wrote:
On December 03 2013 00:46 TheFish7 wrote:
On December 02 2013 14:23 Pokebunny wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:16 TheFish7 wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:09 On_Slaught wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:02 TheFish7 wrote:
Amazon only has something like 30 fulfillment centers in the US. Even if they were to have this service available at all of them, that would leave the vast majority of households out of range. This idea only becomes viable if you can somehow increase the range of the drones without also increasing the cost of delivery.


Clearly says they have 96 in the OP.


That's only 960 miles out of the entire world

... I don't think you know how a radius works T_T


Does it really make a difference? The point is that this is all pie in the sky, perhaps literally, and conveniently spoon fed to media outlets the day before cyber-monday. This is nothing more than a marketing video.

well yes, the difference between 960 and over 30000 is at least noteworthy.


It really isn't though. That amount is just a drop in the bucket compared to the total amount of land area they'd need to cover to make this venture worthwhile. Discussing the mathematics of something that doesn't exist is equally inconsequential.

Except population isn't evenly distributed, and their centers are more likely to be located near to larger population hubs, therefore...
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