Inference and conclusion: People who do not like going to clubs have few to no interests in its associating factors i.e. music genre, alcohol, attraction, dance etc. This may be due to their personality or gene, making them avoid the above interests and people associated with such interests. Or, they may simply not have had the opportunity or chance to mingle with such groups (which would make sense because many clubbers are really social and friendly, so no reason to avoid them when approached, really). People who have grown to like clubbing over time have been having growing interest in its associative factors, or have had friends as such and have been slowly or quickly integrated in clubbing community. People who fall in love with clubbing the first time they go are just born that way and are directly comfortable with enjoying its music, atmosphere, people, and related activities.
First off, I agree with your thoughts on dance. People who do not like going to clubs likely have little interest in dancing to that kind of music. However, I can't see your other activities as being logical conclusions to your premise of people liking or not liking clubbing from nature/nurture.
Alcohol. Clubbing is generally expensive with regards to alcohol. It is not true that people who don't go clubbing will have little interest in alcohol. There are a myriad of other ways to have alcohol. This include with friends at a laid back bar and at a sports bar. This also includes the cheap option of buying a 12pack/24pack/30pack or multiple 6 packs and chilling with friends at the evening at the house, possibly with a barbecue, likely with TV or video games. Your conclusion does not logically follow.
Music Genre. If you like dance music, there's an iPod and even more likely a PC or laptop that will play it in higher quality than any club. Its just the music genre and propensity to dance to it that suggests a clubbing atmosphere.
Opportunity to try it out. The reverse is also true: some try it out and find the drinks too expensive, the music too loud, and the place too crowded. Even if clubbers around are often social and friendly, not even club scene is the same in an area. So it's definitely there to try it and never fall in love. It does favor the extroverts, I'll hand you that.
Attraction. I don't think I'll need to elaborate when I say the people that go to clubs are looking to attract a certain type of girl. If that isn't your cup of tea, attraction has nothing to do with your choice to club or not club, it's the type you're attracted to.
What I meant was, perhaps there could be a positive correlation between the number of the factors mentioned above a person likes, and how likely they are going to enjoying clubs. Effectively, the only thing I've done is list up some features that are often present when associated with a night of clubbing i.e. alcohol, dress and fashion, electro/house music, dancing, attraction to opposite gender, physical fitness. I've then associated these with the likelihood of a person who would enjoy club atmosphere.
Just imagine a person who likes 'Martin Garrix - Animals' and one who doesn't. Which is more likely to welcome that song in a club ? Of course the former, right ? So who is more likely to have fun there?
So yeah, maybe I got the relationship wrong: most people who enjoy clubs enjoy the factors mentioned above, and not vice versa (people who enjoy fashion, drinking, sex, electro/house music, may not necessarily enjoy club atmosphere)
Personally I would enjoy it so much more if it didn't take all of my sleep (I am very very bad at unstable sleep schedules) and most of the clubs doesn't really play music which I enjoy
but there is one club where I usually allways find some of my friends so I enjoy that place alot when I finally manage to make me go clubbing.
I just hate it to bits when I'm "forced" there and I am tired or not in the mood, both are needed or else a very outgoing and talkative me won't initiate social activity :p
i can't stand the music (if i had to describe it in one word - braindead) and i can't stand the volume. i also cannot stand a good number of the people (mainly guys) who frequent the clubbing scene - watching a dude beat the shit out of another dude in a pool of dirt, blood and glass is not my thing.
having said that, there have been times when i've enjoyed myself. i've gotta be well drunk and with people i really like to be in the mood to stay somewhere for more than an hour.
I actually do not understand what you do when you go clubbing or anything remotly like that. What is the activity here and what do you actually do when going clubbing ? What is the purpose or fun in it ?
Can't stand clubbing,, most of the time.. I do enjoy blues and jazz clubs, etc. Sadly they are not the best place to meet women when you're in your early twenties.
It was all about the mindless 'get drunk and get crazy' with your mates back in the college days, occasionally pulling some crazy chicks or making some new friends there. But nowadays I simply don't quite enjoy the club scene anymore (in my mid 20s), good mates are all far away from me or some of them decided to take less alcohol now, we/i enjoy more of a nice dinner in a good atmosphere that i can actually talk and get to know people. Good company comes first and then alcohol second.
I enjoy going to events for some good fun and hella good music. Mind you, I'm not talking about what one usually might think of by clubbing, although in the cold seasons the events are in clubs. I only go to events where I know for a fact that the music will be really good. I don't drink much, but I might have some MDMA (none of that pill roulette for me).
The music is front and center in this experince. Not the social part, not the drinking part not even the drugs. If I don't love the djs that are playing I have to reason to go out. Guys like Ricardo Villalobos, ZIP, and the arpiar gang (my favorites by far and also my fellow nationals) make and play some INCREDIBLE deep house.
On July 23 2013 19:04 Holy_AT wrote: I actually do not understand what you do when you go clubbing or anything remotly like that. What is the activity here and what do you actually do when going clubbing ? What is the purpose or fun in it ?
Inference and conclusion: People who do not like going to clubs have few to no interests in its associating factors i.e. music genre, alcohol, attraction, dance etc. This may be due to their personality or gene, making them avoid the above interests and people associated with such interests. Or, they may simply not have had the opportunity or chance to mingle with such groups (which would make sense because many clubbers are really social and friendly, so no reason to avoid them when approached, really). People who have grown to like clubbing over time have been having growing interest in its associative factors, or have had friends as such and have been slowly or quickly integrated in clubbing community. People who fall in love with clubbing the first time they go are just born that way and are directly comfortable with enjoying its music, atmosphere, people, and related activities.
First off, I agree with your thoughts on dance. People who do not like going to clubs likely have little interest in dancing to that kind of music. However, I can't see your other activities as being logical conclusions to your premise of people liking or not liking clubbing from nature/nurture.
Alcohol. Clubbing is generally expensive with regards to alcohol. It is not true that people who don't go clubbing will have little interest in alcohol. There are a myriad of other ways to have alcohol. This include with friends at a laid back bar and at a sports bar. This also includes the cheap option of buying a 12pack/24pack/30pack or multiple 6 packs and chilling with friends at the evening at the house, possibly with a barbecue, likely with TV or video games. Your conclusion does not logically follow.
Music Genre. If you like dance music, there's an iPod and even more likely a PC or laptop that will play it in higher quality than any club. Its just the music genre and propensity to dance to it that suggests a clubbing atmosphere.
Opportunity to try it out. The reverse is also true: some try it out and find the drinks too expensive, the music too loud, and the place too crowded. Even if clubbers around are often social and friendly, not even club scene is the same in an area. So it's definitely there to try it and never fall in love. It does favor the extroverts, I'll hand you that.
Attraction. I don't think I'll need to elaborate when I say the people that go to clubs are looking to attract a certain type of girl. If that isn't your cup of tea, attraction has nothing to do with your choice to club or not club, it's the type you're attracted to.
Music gets outputed by speakers last time I checked, not ipods or pcs. How can you compere some sick beats played off vinyl and outed by a Funktion One sound system to listening to an ipod on headphones? Of course shit clubs got shit djs that play low bitrate shit tracks on cds and shit sound sistems, but that's your fault for going where the peer pressure takes you.
Yeah I just don't like most music in clubs (see above post), but that's just me.
I'd much rather drink something nice, with people that can string sentences together. I think as part of growing up, most people work out what they like to do, then have to confidence to just go and do it, regardless of peer pressure.
On July 23 2013 20:12 MoonfireSpam wrote: Yeah I just don't like most music in clubs (see above post), but that's just me.
I'd much rather drink something nice, with people that can string sentences together. I think as part of growing up, most people work out what they like to do, then have to confidence to just go and do it, regardless of peer pressure.
Well done for lasting 3 pages before seals.
Thanks, I appreciate it. I really tried hard Notice it's still on the top three most recent threads ! :D
1. The people you go with. If you go out with a large group of friends, you're more likely to have a good time than if you go with a small group or people you don't really know/like, or even alone.
2. The music. If you enjoy the music you're more likely to enjoy the evening.
3. Your level of intoxication. If you're drunk or high (a lot of clubs in London are populated mostly by people who are on mdma or cocaine) you'll have a great time. I've even been clubbing on shrooms and it was a brilliant experience.
4. Just how sociable you are. If you're comfortable with talking to strangers and dancing in public and such, you'll be fine. If you find most other people insufferable you'll never want to go near them.
the more i've the more i hate noisy places...i think i've just turned more cynical as well. but i used to club most weekends back in uni...but these days anything over 80db (apart from concert and movies) is a no go for me.
Personally, I find that older you get more tiresome clubs get. Most of college I was constantly attending frat parties, clubs, and electronic fests. When I started working, I've gradually started to become less and less extroverted to the point where attending weddings, couple bars after work, and occasional clubbing with co-workers or visiting friends was the entirety of my social activities. The hot blonde I used to hit on now looks like a dirty whore, the drinks now taste like more water than liquor, the music sounds more and more like shit, and the money looks better in my portfolio than in the bartenders hands. It was fun while it lasted, in tha club is the only place to be when you are a young, attractive, and looking to get laid. Don't get it twisted though if you are older, fatter, and still looking to get laid after couple kids it is a "closed" party.