So, recently, in between my endless strings of SCII games and LoL matches that usually last well into the night (making me wonder if I should get myself checked for insomnia), I have been hitting the club dance floors again as my friends have lured me back into that large loud room exploding with drunk peoples. And somehow, it felt like I'm enjoying it more than I used to back when I was a freshman/sophomore.
And so I took a moment to reflect back. And I came to the conclusion that there are certain things that makes people get clubbing to grow in them.
Premise 1: Some people like clubbing, while others do not (here I am not differentiating the people who go clubbing whether they like it or not due to "peer pressure" or other external influences)
Premise 2: There must be something different between the two groups of people mentioned above, whether it be nature (born shy/quiet vs outgoing/loud personality, genes, etc.) or nurture (growing new sets of interests associated with clubbing e.g. style/fashion, alcohol, exercise/workout, attraction to opposite (or same) gender, house/electro/R&B music genres, socializing with people with interests similar to those mentioned above)
Inference and conclusion: People who do not like going to clubs have few to no interests in its associating factors i.e. music genre, alcohol, attraction, dance etc. This may be due to their personality or gene, making them avoid the above interests and people associated with such interests. Or, they may simply not have had the opportunity or chance to mingle with such groups (which would make sense because many clubbers are really social and friendly, so no reason to avoid them when approached, really). People who have grown to like clubbing over time have been having growing interest in its associative factors, or have had friends as such and have been slowly or quickly integrated in clubbing community. People who fall in love with clubbing the first time they go are just born that way and are directly comfortable with enjoying its music, atmosphere, people, and related activities.
Thoughts ? Does my logic have flaws ? (Well, I'm sure you could poke holes in it, like for every argument, but what I really mean is, does it make no sense at all and have I wasted my time trying to make a cognitive model that makes no sense) Could someone who absolutely despises nightclubs down to their very bones suddenly wake up one morning and realize how much they've missed in life ? Or will they continue living thinking how stupid and a waste of time and money it is to dress up late at night, go to a gigantic hall blasting music to our ear temples packed with drunk people and mindlessly moving their bodies to some monotonic beat? Or will they realize the magic of drowning the mind and body to the effects of massive house/electro drops of Knife Party and Afrojack, dancing to its beat with a cute lady, body up close and smelling her perfume, with perhaps a chance of continuing into a prolonged adventure with her throughout the night ?
PS: If you want to share some awesome venues/events near your places, it would be nice Also, feel free to share house/electro/r&b music you like, and raves and other events you know are upcoming and are planning to attend
On July 23 2013 12:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: I absolutely despite clubbing, but it's the place with the highest percentage of young single women in one place so needs must.
Right there with you. I honestly don't know a better place to find single, attractive girls.
I'm quite outgoing when I want to be and I love my booze, but I hate clubbing.
Partly because holy shit... I can't hear a thing and nobody can hear me. It's like the natural habitat of people who either never listen to each other anyway or can lip read wtf...
Much prefer pubs, musicy places with areas you can dance in and areas you can chat in (live music places etc) tbh.
So basically your 'inference and conclusion' being that I have few interests in music (not true, love music) alcohol (nope, love it) dancing (you should see my skillz yo, terribad but I love it when I get going) and all that kinda stuff are not true for me. I just prefer places I can bloody communicate with people. It seems clubs/ clubbing is where you go when you cba with all the 'proper' social aspects like talking and getting to know people and just want to latch onto people and stare at them all night while dancing, because you have nowt in common and can't hold a conversation.
I only go to the club if there's a DJ in town i actually like, which is every month or so in chicago. For some reason the shittiest clubs have the best promoters which is annoying.
If i'm just going out i'll just go to the bar because night clubs are kinda shitty for just going out and getting drunk and having fun.
Just got my tickets for this, gonna be fucking epic. Music festivals are insane:
I love clubbing, I used to hit bars or clubs 7 days a week.
People assume it is just to pick up chicks, but if you go out and enjoy yourself you end up having alot of fun.
You make friends with the security, bartenders, waitresses, dudes and gals both.
It is all about being social. Humans are social animals, as evident by the existence of this forum. Going clubbing, barhopping is like hitting the ladder on starcraft in the social venue. You go out and meet strangers just like you go out and play against strangers; bounce idea's off each other (build orders), etc. You hear peoples life stories, and you grow found of people, and it helps you see the brighter side of life.
I got some sick stories from Barhopping and clubbing both PM me if you want to exchange stories or have a case study on your thesis.
Personally I think the relationship with clubbing is directly related to how positive your mindset is, and how much you like to go out and socialize.
On July 23 2013 12:36 decafchicken wrote: I only go to the club if there's a DJ in town i actually like, which is every month or so in chicago. For some reason the shittiest clubs have the best promoters which is annoying. .
what this guy said. a lot of people, including me, only go to clubs for certain djs. i have no intention to meet new people at clubs but it just happens. all i know is that i'll be going with friends and dancing. i find dancing with girls and grinding to be boring. i like to move a lot.
a lot of people also just take mdma or other drugs and enjoy the music rather than just trying to get laid.
I'm definitely one of those people who don't enjoy it, but it's cool to see the perspective of people who do. I've never been to a club before, but I don't enjoy drinking, drunk people, the type of music, loud music, or crowds, so I imagine that I would hate it. Sitting at home reading a good book is my type of night .
Inference and conclusion: People who do not like going to clubs have few to no interests in its associating factors i.e. music genre, alcohol, attraction, dance etc.
I love all of those things and I can't stand clubbing, the club scene in America at least is awful imo. I'd rather have a house / pool / field party or just go to a regular bar and dance there than go to "the club." Maybe it's just the clubs in Pittsburgh are shitty filled with shitty people, that's probably it.
Inference and conclusion: People who do not like going to clubs have few to no interests in its associating factors i.e. music genre, alcohol, attraction, dance etc.
I love all of those things and I can't stand clubbing, the club scene in America at least is awful imo. I'd rather have a house / pool / field party or just go to a regular bar and dance there than go to "the club." Maybe it's just the clubs in Pittsburgh are shitty filled with shitty people, that's probably it.
i think it really depends on what you do at a club and what kind of people are there. i generally dislike the crowds at most clubs but i still have a good ass time dancing.
Inference and conclusion: People who do not like going to clubs have few to no interests in its associating factors i.e. music genre, alcohol, attraction, dance etc.
I love all of those things and I can't stand clubbing, the club scene in America at least is awful imo. I'd rather have a house / pool / field party or just go to a regular bar and dance there than go to "the club." Maybe it's just the clubs in Pittsburgh are shitty filled with shitty people, that's probably it.
i think it really depends on what you do at a club and what kind of people are there. i generally dislike the crowds at most clubs but i still have a good ass time dancing.
Yeah clubs are real hit and miss (probably more miss), read some reviews before you go out to one. If you find a club that isn't super pretentious with a bunch of douchey guys and snotty girls than you'll have a great time. Or i guess if you're a hot chick or a rich dude they're probably pretty enjoyable. The club scene is expanding a lot and new clubs are opening and old ones are being remodeled with electronic dance music getting more mainstream. On the whole i find it easier/more fun to go to a bar with a group of friends and meet people/get drunk/do stupid shit, probably only going to a club if i have a specific reason.
Burner parties or raves are where it's at. Even now rave culture is flooded with "bros".
Why do i love burning man parties?
1) amazing music. Deep / tech / minimal underground 2) artwork and inventions everywhere. Have helped a specific camp throw parties and I must say, there are many talented artists 3) the people - all or most parties are 21+ so the crowd is a bit mature. Not like youll see a dumb 18 y/o or younger Od on MDMA. Awesome vibes. The costumes people wear are so well thought out and creative. Gorgeous women. Lots of generosity and sharing - this includes a plethora of drugs but that's not the point anyway since its all for the music
If you're from the NYC area and want to attend some sick nasty events, PM me. Your mind shall blown.
On July 23 2013 12:36 decafchicken wrote: I only go to the club if there's a DJ in town i actually like, which is every month or so in chicago. For some reason the shittiest clubs have the best promoters which is annoying.
If i'm just going out i'll just go to the bar because night clubs are kinda shitty for just going out and getting drunk and having fun.
This looks sick !!! Is it a rave ? I might book a flight for Georgia for September now LOL.
But yeah, I think there's definitely a heavy influence of what kind of clubs there are near you, as well as what kind of people go clubbing near your town. If only boring people go in groups to just dance by themselves, it definitely ruins the night. If only shitty DJ's are there who play shitty music, then it will also make the night less fun.
I hope to all the people who are not satisfied with the clubs near your neighborhood to go check out other towns with other clubs and people ! Seattle has fantastic clubs, and I strongly recommend visiting.
I used to go out a lot but not so much anymore. It helped that I had friends who were promoters (one was an owner of a particular club) and they helped me understand the nature of clubs themselves better. There's a "right" way to get the most out of them.
For the people who complain about the crowd or the place being too loud, you have control over these things because you can choose the type of club you go to and where it's located. I personally do not like overly crowded places, I also like a place with a dedicated room/lounge/terrace for mingling and getting to know other people and I also look for a more professionally oriented crowd. In Montreal for example there are a few clubs where a lot of Ubisoft people go to, to blow off steam after work or to have a good time. I've met some pretty cool people going out.
For me I like to meet new people and I like to dance. So I go out with friends every so often (not too much nowadays--sometimes once a month is more than enough). I actually don't like to drink very much and will go out completely sober.
On July 23 2013 12:45 Chairman Ray wrote: I'm definitely one of those people who don't enjoy it, but it's cool to see the perspective of people who do. I've never been to a club before, but I don't enjoy drinking, drunk people, the type of music, loud music, or crowds, so I imagine that I would hate it. Sitting at home reading a good book is my type of night .
Same here. I'd rather play video games than go to a club. :D
Yeah I'd like to go to a proper deep trance rave and just go on a six hour musical journey. Too bad I was 14 when all the music I loved was being produced lol. You're definitely right about the age thing, I've been to a couple festivals where there's fucking middle schoolers popping mdma and smoking dabs and I'm just like wtf. You sound like you'd enjoy Electric Forest, people put tons of effort into costumes and decorations and making it truly incredible experience. And of course everyone is super friendly :-D
On July 23 2013 12:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: I absolutely despite clubbing, but it's the place with the highest percentage of young single women in one place so needs must.
Right there with you. I honestly don't know a better place to find single, attractive girls.
Yeah, except it's so fucking loud (at least the clubs I go to) that it's impossible to speak to someone. I do very much like clubbing though.
On July 23 2013 12:41 Jisall wrote: I love clubbing, I used to hit bars or clubs 7 days a week.
People assume it is just to pick up chicks, but if you go out and enjoy yourself you end up having alot of fun.
You make friends with the security, bartenders, waitresses, dudes and gals both.
It is all about being social. Humans are social animals, as evident by the existence of this forum. Going clubbing, barhopping is like hitting the ladder on starcraft in the social venue. You go out and meet strangers just like you go out and play against strangers; bounce idea's off each other (build orders), etc. You hear peoples life stories, and you grow found of people, and it helps you see the brighter side of life.
I got some sick stories from Barhopping and clubbing both PM me if you want to exchange stories or have a case study on your thesis.
Personally I think the relationship with clubbing is directly related to how positive your mindset is, and how much you like to go out and socialize.
This. I find this is a fantastic imagery of clubbing. Starcraft has certain rules, and non-talk-communication is a rule in the game of clubbing. If you can ride the wave of the atmosphere of people and music, you get to learn to use your body to express yourself to a person of interest in the room. People who complain about not being able to talk in clubs means that speech is their strong point i.e. they're good at talking, and that is one of their main tools in socializing. But I think that if you can enjoy the music genre enough, as well as the people, you may find it easier to learn the physical skills needed in clubs i.e. dancing while having fun and sharing this fun mood with strangers around the floor.
Edit: And also about the ladder part. In the beginning, you're uncomfortable having to play strangers, with a fear of failing/losing. So you're all anxious and awkward while playing, constantly worrying what the other person is doing and thinking. You're being ranked by your win/loss ratio, so the match actually has more hanging in the balance. You're out of your comfort zone. I think clubbing is exactly the same. You're out of your comfort zone, with strangers, and with unspoken social rules. It's your job to learn the skills, and learn to enjoy the thrill, just like a SC ladder game.
EPT
Also, feel free to share house/electro/r&b music you like, and raves and other events you know are upcoming and are planning to attend
but that's not the point anyway since its all for the music 
