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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
June 24 2016 10:32 GMT
#2561
On June 24 2016 19:30 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 19:25 Pandemona wrote:
On June 24 2016 19:21 maartendq wrote:
It's funny to keep hearing Johnson drone on about "taking back control". As far as I know all of Britain's problems are of their own making, not the EU's.

But hey, once a demagogue, always a demagogue. It'll be hilarious when it turns out that the UK will not be allowed to access the common market if it refuses to keep its borders open.

Thats why it will keep its borders open....the decision changes nothing apart from we won't have this massive bill in the eyes of politicians and do not have to answer to EU High Court that is the only thing that pisses politicians off. A politician gives no toot about immigration and just hid behind that fact to put the vote to a win imo at least. All that changes is UK will not have to answer/follow EU decisions but will stay pay money into it for trade purposes.

Yet the voters never got to see that side nor did Cameron make that case or any cases to that extent, he handled it badly as he thought people understood and cared for the economy, some did but i would the bracket of under 30s did where the over 30s are closest racists and decided they didn't understand the economy and "don't want no immigrants tekkin r jobz". Literally a South Park episode going on in UK right now Boris is Cartman?


I don't know why you guys are so convinced that the EU will keep letting the UK enjoy the benefits of being part of a common market while no longer fulfilling any of the obligations that such a thing entails. Out is out. You voted, you now get to swallow the consequences. In the best scenario you will be given the same deal as Norway has now, which is far inferior to the one you've got at present.

Juncker just said that there will be no re-negotiation of Britain's membership of the EU.


France and Germany are pretty much on the same line with that. Britain exiting EU means niet. No privileged access to the EU market, no privileged releation with the EU, it's like any other country in the world.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 24 2016 10:32 GMT
#2562
On June 24 2016 19:27 Ragnarork wrote:
I laughed too much at this I think, but had I been a brit, I'd be really despaired and feeling surrounded by idiots.


To be fair with him, the "all dat money gonna go the NHS" bullshit was Boris' claim, Farage stopped using it in the weeks coming up to the referendum
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DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
June 24 2016 10:32 GMT
#2563
Any live stream for Merkel's speech?
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
June 24 2016 10:33 GMT
#2564
On June 24 2016 19:30 HolydaKing wrote:
Merkel speech incoming, any minute now.

Got a link?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 24 2016 10:33 GMT
#2565
On June 24 2016 19:30 HolydaKing wrote:
Merkel speech incoming, any minute now.

where to watch?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 24 2016 10:33 GMT
#2566
On June 24 2016 19:32 DickMcFanny wrote:
Any live stream for Merkel's speech?

http://www.ardmediathek.de/tv/Phoenix/live?kanal=5888 if you are able to speak German.
Linear
Profile Blog Joined August 2015
60 Posts
June 24 2016 10:33 GMT
#2567
On June 24 2016 19:27 Ragnarork wrote:
I laughed too much at this I think, but had I been a brit, I'd be really despaired and feeling surrounded by idiots.



Summed up how I feel, I live in one the areas in the south that voted remain though but even so seriously contemplating moving country.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
June 24 2016 10:34 GMT
#2568
On June 24 2016 19:33 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 19:32 DickMcFanny wrote:
Any live stream for Merkel's speech?

http://www.ardmediathek.de/tv/Phoenix/live?kanal=5888 if you are able to speak German.

Can only be accessed in Germany.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 24 2016 10:35 GMT
#2569
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 10:36:04
June 24 2016 10:35 GMT
#2570
On June 24 2016 19:34 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 19:33 HolydaKing wrote:
On June 24 2016 19:32 DickMcFanny wrote:
Any live stream for Merkel's speech?

http://www.ardmediathek.de/tv/Phoenix/live?kanal=5888 if you are able to speak German.

Can only be accessed in Germany.

Oh sry, didn't know.

edit: It even says so below the vid lol.
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 10:37:28
June 24 2016 10:36 GMT
#2571
On June 24 2016 19:33 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 19:32 DickMcFanny wrote:
Any live stream for Merkel's speech?

http://www.ardmediathek.de/tv/Phoenix/live?kanal=5888 if you are able to speak German.


Ja, ich bin selbst deutsch.

Thank you very much!

Fuck, link doesn't work
"http://zdf0910-lh.akamaihd.net/z/de09_v1@392871/manifest.f4m"
Bei der Wiedergabe ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. Inhalte mit Geoblocking können nur von Deutschland aus abgerufen werden.

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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
June 24 2016 10:37 GMT
#2572
http://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/livestreams/livestream1/index.html
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 24 2016 10:38 GMT
#2573
On June 24 2016 19:30 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 19:25 Pandemona wrote:
On June 24 2016 19:21 maartendq wrote:
It's funny to keep hearing Johnson drone on about "taking back control". As far as I know all of Britain's problems are of their own making, not the EU's.

But hey, once a demagogue, always a demagogue. It'll be hilarious when it turns out that the UK will not be allowed to access the common market if it refuses to keep its borders open.

Thats why it will keep its borders open....the decision changes nothing apart from we won't have this massive bill in the eyes of politicians and do not have to answer to EU High Court that is the only thing that pisses politicians off. A politician gives no toot about immigration and just hid behind that fact to put the vote to a win imo at least. All that changes is UK will not have to answer/follow EU decisions but will stay pay money into it for trade purposes.

Yet the voters never got to see that side nor did Cameron make that case or any cases to that extent, he handled it badly as he thought people understood and cared for the economy, some did but i would the bracket of under 30s did where the over 30s are closest racists and decided they didn't understand the economy and "don't want no immigrants tekkin r jobz". Literally a South Park episode going on in UK right now Boris is Cartman?


I don't know why you guys are so convinced that the EU will keep letting the UK enjoy the benefits of being part of a common market while no longer fulfilling any of the obligations that such a thing entails. Out is out. You voted, you now get to swallow the consequences. In the best scenario you will be given the same deal as Norway has now, which is far inferior to the one you've got at present.

Juncker just said that there will be no re-negotiation of Britain's membership of the EU.

Yes and that is what i justs described? Thats what the brexit want, you still get migrants, you still pay a bill to the EU you just have 0 say on matters but you get an economy that still booms and more power inside your own country in terms of laws, which is the only thing pissing politicians off because they are not the centre of attention
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
June 24 2016 10:38 GMT
#2574
OK guys, I've decided I'm going to buy some Gin. London Dry I think.

To freedom lads!
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
June 24 2016 10:40 GMT
#2575
On June 24 2016 18:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
UK saw they had multiple countries in the Ro16 at euro2016 and immediately concluded they were strong enough to leave us

I'm a bit scared about the consequences this will have in other countries. I don't want more Trumps and Wilders.

I'm postively hopeful the EU will take a good look at itself and try to mend it's flaws to stop others from leaving. Though I fear Verhofstadt, Dijsselbloem et al. will just add extra fear mongering and doom saying instead.


Oh cmooon. We are living under Erdogan "regime" for a decade. You EU boyz should taste it too
Seriously speaking i fear EU people are losing their good sense.
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
Linear
Profile Blog Joined August 2015
60 Posts
June 24 2016 10:42 GMT
#2576
On June 24 2016 19:36 DickMcFanny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 19:33 HolydaKing wrote:
On June 24 2016 19:32 DickMcFanny wrote:
Any live stream for Merkel's speech?

http://www.ardmediathek.de/tv/Phoenix/live?kanal=5888 if you are able to speak German.


Ja, ich bin selbst deutsch.

Thank you very much!

Fuck, link doesn't work
"http://zdf0910-lh.akamaihd.net/z/de09_v1@392871/manifest.f4m"
Bei der Wiedergabe ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. Inhalte mit Geoblocking können nur von Deutschland aus abgerufen werden.



Waiting for you to either say you're racist or to show me some facts about your earlier claims...
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
June 24 2016 10:42 GMT
#2577
On June 24 2016 19:37 maartendq wrote:
http://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/livestreams/livestream1/index.html


Thank you, sir.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 24 2016 10:42 GMT
#2578
On June 24 2016 19:38 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 19:30 maartendq wrote:
On June 24 2016 19:25 Pandemona wrote:
On June 24 2016 19:21 maartendq wrote:
It's funny to keep hearing Johnson drone on about "taking back control". As far as I know all of Britain's problems are of their own making, not the EU's.

But hey, once a demagogue, always a demagogue. It'll be hilarious when it turns out that the UK will not be allowed to access the common market if it refuses to keep its borders open.

Thats why it will keep its borders open....the decision changes nothing apart from we won't have this massive bill in the eyes of politicians and do not have to answer to EU High Court that is the only thing that pisses politicians off. A politician gives no toot about immigration and just hid behind that fact to put the vote to a win imo at least. All that changes is UK will not have to answer/follow EU decisions but will stay pay money into it for trade purposes.

Yet the voters never got to see that side nor did Cameron make that case or any cases to that extent, he handled it badly as he thought people understood and cared for the economy, some did but i would the bracket of under 30s did where the over 30s are closest racists and decided they didn't understand the economy and "don't want no immigrants tekkin r jobz". Literally a South Park episode going on in UK right now Boris is Cartman?


I don't know why you guys are so convinced that the EU will keep letting the UK enjoy the benefits of being part of a common market while no longer fulfilling any of the obligations that such a thing entails. Out is out. You voted, you now get to swallow the consequences. In the best scenario you will be given the same deal as Norway has now, which is far inferior to the one you've got at present.

Juncker just said that there will be no re-negotiation of Britain's membership of the EU.

Yes and that is what i justs described? Thats what the brexit want, you still get migrants, you still pay a bill to the EU you just have 0 say on matters but you get an economy that still booms and more power inside your own country in terms of laws, which is the only thing pissing politicians off because they are not the centre of attention

it just depends how much of an example brussels wants to make of us, while also acknowledging that they cant shut us out completely
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 11:06:13
June 24 2016 10:42 GMT
#2579
On June 24 2016 19:35 Zaros wrote:
https://twitter.com/nickeardleybbc/status/746290585171070976

Well looking at this (dutch) picture it does seem Scotland has indeed a different view on the referendum then most of GB :o

[image loading]

On June 24 2016 19:40 Aceace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 18:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
UK saw they had multiple countries in the Ro16 at euro2016 and immediately concluded they were strong enough to leave us

I'm a bit scared about the consequences this will have in other countries. I don't want more Trumps and Wilders.

I'm postively hopeful the EU will take a good look at itself and try to mend it's flaws to stop others from leaving. Though I fear Verhofstadt, Dijsselbloem et al. will just add extra fear mongering and doom saying instead.


Oh cmooon. We are living under Erdogan "regime" for a decade. You EU boyz should taste it too
Seriously speaking i fear EU people are losing their good sense.

20 Erdogans in one continent what could go wrong?
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Cam Connor
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada786 Posts
June 24 2016 10:43 GMT
#2580
if u want to watch the speech just watch it on bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/live/europe
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