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DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
June 24 2016 10:04 GMT
#2541
On June 24 2016 19:01 Linear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 18:49 DickMcFanny wrote:
On June 24 2016 18:31 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Does anyone see the irony in people refusing so vehemently to help refugees that they would rather hurt themselves more in the end?


Yeah, fuck that.

By the time they reach the UK, they're not refugees anymore, by no possible definition.
It can't possibly be the responsibility of the British to take in huge amounts of migrants who for the most part have no intention of ever integrating into society, who are a financial burden on the British people and who, for large parts, harbor hostility towards the British way of life.

You can't blame the sheep for not wanting to let in the wolves. Forcing them to do it is a large part of why they left.


That's pretty closet racist misinformation.


When did 'racist' become a word for unpopular facts about immigration?
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
June 24 2016 10:05 GMT
#2542


Scotland voted to remain 63-37...
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 24 2016 10:08 GMT
#2543
On June 24 2016 19:05 showstealer1829 wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/746272130992644096

Scotland voted to remain 63-37...

I mean the place IS going wild over the vote. Just the other way around~
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Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
June 24 2016 10:09 GMT
#2544
On June 24 2016 19:02 L1ghtning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 17:00 SC2Toastie wrote:
On June 24 2016 16:45 xM(Z wrote:
On June 24 2016 16:27 SC2Toastie wrote:
On June 24 2016 16:24 xM(Z wrote:
On June 24 2016 16:10 Cyro wrote:
On June 24 2016 16:01 HolydaKing wrote:
On June 24 2016 15:50 SC2Toastie wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis

Those graphs at the end. Wow. Just wow.

Very interesting link, thanks!


That's pretty amazing, wow

can someone enlighten me about what's so amazing in that link?.
i see the rich and their groupies voting remain and the poor and scared voted leave.
what's the practical connection with education?. how can the education have the consequences they said it has?.

Because apparantly there is a correlation between highly educated (people that, on average, are informed, understand the mechanisms) and the youth (people that, on average, are informed, and HIGHLY affected) that want to remain, and on the other hand older people (less informed, less affected) and poor (BLAME THE EU) to leave.

- do they have university level pro-EU courses in UK?.
- do those old and/or poor people lack the (mental?)capability to understand the latest debates on this issue?.

- Because people that finish higher education tend to be better at understanding and critically questioning information.
- Old people have other interests and are more affected by instinct over factual information: 'the past' when 'everything was better' for example.

That's some elitist nonsense. The english young ppl should be thankful that they have grandparents who still remembers what freedom is. Anyway, the age gap is overstated. This was about England and Wales against London and Scotland. The english ppl are sick of being ruled by ppl who doesn't serve their interests. That's what this was about. The EU is not only to blame, but they were part of the problem.

I was a brexit advocate first and foremost because it was a step towards decentralization, towards more self-autonomy. This vote will give the british ppl more control over their own lives.
But on top of that it's so satisfying to see the establishment, the EU/globalism advocates, the Londoners, and Cambridge/Oxford elite get slapped in the face. How's your democracy working for you now that you no longer get your way? Now you know how it feels to be ruled by others.

Hopefully this can teach the bremainers a lesson or two about democracy, and why centralized pseudo democracy is a bad thing. If you had more regional autonomy, then every region could have decided for themselves if they wanted to be part of the EU. Scotland may hold another election for indepedence, just to get back into the EU. The fact that this election was so polarized regionally, that itself shows that leaving the EU was the right choice. If the UK can't get along on policies because they have so drastically different views in the different regions, then why in the world should something as big as the EU get to dictate their policies?

This is a great day for liberty, and I think it's only the beginning. I'm convinced that we will see more countries leaving in the near future.


I've been on board the Flexit (har har come on let's do this Florida just for the name...the pun can't be stopped) train for a long time now. Then again, I'm probably one of the few folks who are proponents of decentralization to city-states. Good on the British, now, hopefully those Scots leave the UK, and Quebec leaves Canada, Catalonia leaves Spain, northern Italy leaves Italy, etc. Political units are best suited at the local level to most match the needs and values of its constituents.
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 24 2016 10:09 GMT
#2545
On June 24 2016 19:04 DickMcFanny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 19:01 Linear wrote:
On June 24 2016 18:49 DickMcFanny wrote:
On June 24 2016 18:31 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Does anyone see the irony in people refusing so vehemently to help refugees that they would rather hurt themselves more in the end?


Yeah, fuck that.

By the time they reach the UK, they're not refugees anymore, by no possible definition.
It can't possibly be the responsibility of the British to take in huge amounts of migrants who for the most part have no intention of ever integrating into society, who are a financial burden on the British people and who, for large parts, harbor hostility towards the British way of life.

You can't blame the sheep for not wanting to let in the wolves. Forcing them to do it is a large part of why they left.


That's pretty closet racist misinformation.


When did 'racist' become a word for unpopular facts about immigration?

Source for your facts?
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
June 24 2016 10:10 GMT
#2546
Boris press conference starting. This should be good
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 10:12:25
June 24 2016 10:10 GMT
#2547
On June 24 2016 19:05 showstealer1829 wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/746272130992644096

Scotland voted to remain 63-37...

Never let facts stand in the way of your social media presence! Better yet, never let facts stand in the way of your rightfully made up opinion!
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 24 2016 10:13 GMT
#2548
On June 24 2016 19:05 showstealer1829 wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/746272130992644096

Scotland voted to remain 63-37...

Haha what a sausage but it another reason that the UK is deemed a whole and that IF Scotland really want to leave it so badly they will shoot themselves in the foot in doing so, we are definitely better as one giant rock than tiny little ones no one gives a crap about.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 11:07:23
June 24 2016 10:15 GMT
#2549
40% of Scottish people voted to leave the EU


It's actually 37-38% - for every person in scotland that voted to leave, 1.65 people voted to stay.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 10:19:36
June 24 2016 10:18 GMT
#2550
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

This petition has popped asking for a second vote on the referendum as it is "so close" and such a big decision, plus some out voters might be thinking, oh shit what have i done the £ has died and our prime minister is running away xD

The Government website page received more than 80,000 signatures - with nearly 10,000 in just one hour.


It crashed as you can gather

16,141,241 In Votes -- 17,410,742 Out Votes

I actually think this even worst when it is so close and such a huge decision
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 10:23:06
June 24 2016 10:20 GMT
#2551
On June 24 2016 19:05 showstealer1829 wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/746272130992644096

Scotland voted to remain 63-37...

And? Scotland is a part of Great Britain.

edit: @ Pande.
One million votes is not a small margin of votes. Montenegro split from Serbia in 2006 with 55% voting 'for' in the referendum. Rules are rules.
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
June 24 2016 10:21 GMT
#2552
It's funny to keep hearing Johnson drone on about "taking back control". As far as I know all of Britain's problems are of their own making, not the EU's.

But hey, once a demagogue, always a demagogue. It'll be hilarious when it turns out that the UK will not be allowed to access the common market if it refuses to keep its borders open.
Linear
Profile Blog Joined August 2015
60 Posts
June 24 2016 10:23 GMT
#2553
On June 24 2016 19:04 DickMcFanny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 19:01 Linear wrote:
On June 24 2016 18:49 DickMcFanny wrote:
On June 24 2016 18:31 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Does anyone see the irony in people refusing so vehemently to help refugees that they would rather hurt themselves more in the end?


Yeah, fuck that.

By the time they reach the UK, they're not refugees anymore, by no possible definition.
It can't possibly be the responsibility of the British to take in huge amounts of migrants who for the most part have no intention of ever integrating into society, who are a financial burden on the British people and who, for large parts, harbor hostility towards the British way of life.

You can't blame the sheep for not wanting to let in the wolves. Forcing them to do it is a large part of why they left.


That's pretty closet racist misinformation.


When did 'racist' become a word for unpopular facts about immigration?


Show me the "facts" that these migrants have no intention of integrating and harbor hostility towards us?
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4383 Posts
June 24 2016 10:24 GMT
#2554
On June 24 2016 19:18 Pandemona wrote:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

This petition has popped asking for a second vote on the referendum as it is "so close" and such a big decision, plus some out voters might be thinking, oh shit what have i done the £ has died and our prime minister is running away xD

Show nested quote +
The Government website page received more than 80,000 signatures - with nearly 10,000 in just one hour.


It crashed as you can gather

16,141,241 In Votes -- 17,410,742 Out Votes

I actually think this even worst when it is so close and such a huge decision

You realise many in scotland voted remain in spite of wanting to leave because they wanted another referendum on independence from the UK right? This is the perfect outcome for those people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 24 2016 10:24 GMT
#2555
On June 24 2016 19:18 Pandemona wrote:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

This petition has popped asking for a second vote on the referendum as it is "so close" and such a big decision, plus some out voters might be thinking, oh shit what have i done the £ has died and our prime minister is running away xD

Show nested quote +
The Government website page received more than 80,000 signatures - with nearly 10,000 in just one hour.


It crashed as you can gather

16,141,241 In Votes -- 17,410,742 Out Votes

I actually think this even worst when it is so close and such a huge decision


I'm looking forward to the responses from France and Germany soonish. iirc they said that if the UK decides to leave the EU they won't have a delay like the Leave campaign (and Cameron now as well) proposed.
Seemed pretty final to me if it goes down the way it went down
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 24 2016 10:25 GMT
#2556
On June 24 2016 19:21 maartendq wrote:
It's funny to keep hearing Johnson drone on about "taking back control". As far as I know all of Britain's problems are of their own making, not the EU's.

But hey, once a demagogue, always a demagogue. It'll be hilarious when it turns out that the UK will not be allowed to access the common market if it refuses to keep its borders open.

Thats why it will keep its borders open....the decision changes nothing apart from we won't have this massive bill in the eyes of politicians and do not have to answer to EU High Court that is the only thing that pisses politicians off. A politician gives no toot about immigration and just hid behind that fact to put the vote to a win imo at least. All that changes is UK will not have to answer/follow EU decisions but will stay pay money into it for trade purposes.

Yet the voters never got to see that side nor did Cameron make that case or any cases to that extent, he handled it badly as he thought people understood and cared for the economy, some did but i would the bracket of under 30s did where the over 30s are closest racists and decided they didn't understand the economy and "don't want no immigrants tekkin r jobz". Literally a South Park episode going on in UK right now Boris is Cartman?
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
June 24 2016 10:27 GMT
#2557
I laughed too much at this I think, but had I been a brit, I'd be really despaired and feeling surrounded by idiots.

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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 24 2016 10:28 GMT
#2558
On June 24 2016 19:00 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 18:49 DickMcFanny wrote:
On June 24 2016 18:31 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Does anyone see the irony in people refusing so vehemently to help refugees that they would rather hurt themselves more in the end?


Yeah, fuck that.

By the time they reach the UK, they're not refugees anymore, by no possible definition.
It can't possibly be the responsibility of the British to take in huge amounts of migrants who for the most part have no intention of ever integrating into society, who are a financial burden on the British people and who, for large parts, harbor hostility towards the British way of life.

You can't blame the sheep for not wanting to let in the wolves. Forcing them to do it is a large part of why they left.

Wow, your view on migrants, it's so caricatural. By the way, France will surely renegociate the treaty of Le Touquet, in fact we could rip it off and let migrants flow by the tunnel because we're done dealing with those in place of the UK. So expect a little more efforts from the UK to deal with the migrants in a close future.

Well according to Macron a few months ago letting all the migrants in Britain is what is supposed to happen now that Brexit happened.

On June 24 2016 19:05 showstealer1829 wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/746272130992644096

Scotland voted to remain 63-37...

Just Trump things xD
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
June 24 2016 10:30 GMT
#2559
On June 24 2016 19:25 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2016 19:21 maartendq wrote:
It's funny to keep hearing Johnson drone on about "taking back control". As far as I know all of Britain's problems are of their own making, not the EU's.

But hey, once a demagogue, always a demagogue. It'll be hilarious when it turns out that the UK will not be allowed to access the common market if it refuses to keep its borders open.

Thats why it will keep its borders open....the decision changes nothing apart from we won't have this massive bill in the eyes of politicians and do not have to answer to EU High Court that is the only thing that pisses politicians off. A politician gives no toot about immigration and just hid behind that fact to put the vote to a win imo at least. All that changes is UK will not have to answer/follow EU decisions but will stay pay money into it for trade purposes.

Yet the voters never got to see that side nor did Cameron make that case or any cases to that extent, he handled it badly as he thought people understood and cared for the economy, some did but i would the bracket of under 30s did where the over 30s are closest racists and decided they didn't understand the economy and "don't want no immigrants tekkin r jobz". Literally a South Park episode going on in UK right now Boris is Cartman?


I don't know why you guys are so convinced that the EU will keep letting the UK enjoy the benefits of being part of a common market while no longer fulfilling any of the obligations that such a thing entails. Out is out. You voted, you now get to swallow the consequences. In the best scenario you will be given the same deal as Norway has now, which is far inferior to the one you've got at present.

Juncker just said that there will be no re-negotiation of Britain's membership of the EU.
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Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 24 2016 10:30 GMT
#2560
Merkel speech incoming, any minute now.
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