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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4433 Posts
Trump right, as always. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 24 2016 18:19 wptlzkwjd wrote: Any thoughts about the further dissolution of the UK? Not really familiar with UK politics but recently there was a Scottish vote for independence. Do you guys think this will happen? And with Wales and Northern Ireland? Analysis by the BBC's Scotland editor Sarah Smith This is exactly the scenario the SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon envisaged when she said that if Scotland is "dragged out of the EU against its will" that could trigger a second referendum on Scottish independence. Already her predecessor as SNP leader Alex Salmond is saying that Ms Sturgeon will now call for a second referendum - indyref 2, as it is known in Scotland All we have heard so far from Nicola Sturgeon is a statement saying: "Scotland has delivered a strong, unequivocal vote to remain in the EU". She has also said: "Scotland sees it future as part of the EU" Hints there about the possibility of indyref 2 - but no commitment yet. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36615988 | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On June 24 2016 18:27 Pr0wler wrote: For me UK leaving is not that big of a concern... Well it is for them. For the rest of Europe, not so much. What I'm worried about is, that the influense of the nationalist and racist parties will rise across Europe, as a result of the referendum. And we all know what happens when racists rule over divided european countries... Maybe this is the start of the end of the 70 year peace... Hardly the end of peace. Europe's population is aging rapidly. To go to war you need a lot of young people with impregnable minds, not a bunch of nostalgic, pot-bellied 50-year-olds who'd stop fighting as soon as their favourite TV show is on. | ||
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
On June 24 2016 18:31 wptlzkwjd wrote: Does anyone see the irony in people refusing so vehemently to help refugees that they would rather hurt themselves more in the end? wat | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On June 24 2016 18:27 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: will scotland have two referendums, one to leave the UK and one to join Europe? or survive for a time as a truly independent country? It is likely that the EU may not exist by the time Scotland has the vote. + Show Spoiler + Trump right, as always. (1) You are a truly independant country when part of the EU, as the UK just proved. (2) If the EU dies, it won't be in six months, but in more than one decade, so Scotland has time. I know that right now it's panic mode because British people (or, rather, English people) voted Leave, but honestly the UK getting out of the EU is not a huge deal for the EU itself. If anything, it's good, we're losing the special snowflake who wanted to exploit the EU without being actively part of it (no €, no Schengen, always complaining that they wanted special treatment, etc). Also, I predicted that the Leave would win, just like Trump. Am I also right, as always? | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4557 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On June 24 2016 18:35 OtherWorld wrote: (1) You are a truly independant country when part of the EU, as the UK just proved. (2) If the EU dies, it won't be in six months, but in more than one decade, so Scotland has time. I know that right now it's panic mode because British people (or, rather, English people) voted Leave, but honestly the UK getting out of the EU is not a huge deal for the EU itself. If anything, it's good, we're losing the special snowflake who wanted to exploit the EU without being actively part of it (no €, no Schengen, always complaining that they wanted special treatment, etc). Also, I predicted that the Leave would win, just like Trump. Am I also right, as always? Don't just blame the English, 40% of Scottish people voted to leave the EU, a majority of Welsh voted to leave the EU and 45% of Northern Irish voted to leave the EU. This isn't England solely pulling the other countries out. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 24 2016 18:39 Zaros wrote: Don't just blame the English, 40% of Scottish people voted to leave the EU, a majority of Welsh voted to leave the EU and 45% of Northern Irish voted to leave the EU. This isn't England solely pulling the other countries out. 38% for leave, 62% for remain is quite a big margin though | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
 I'm a bit scared about the consequences this will have in other countries. I don't want more Trumps and Wilders. I'm postively hopeful the EU will take a good look at itself and try to mend it's flaws to stop others from leaving. Though I fear Verhofstadt, Dijsselbloem et al. will just add extra fear mongering and doom saying instead. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
Wikipedia says Gin is the national drink of England, and Welsh whisky for Wales. What brands are the most British/English? edit: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KzyEj2k.png) We did it wales its finally over the EU is gone Yes mr England | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4433 Posts
Plus he was openly calling for LEAVE! Jeremy Corbyns brothers calling for leave lol! https://twitter.com/Piers_Corbyn?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author | ||
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DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
On June 24 2016 18:31 wptlzkwjd wrote: Does anyone see the irony in people refusing so vehemently to help refugees that they would rather hurt themselves more in the end? Yeah, fuck that. By the time they reach the UK, they're not refugees anymore, by no possible definition. It can't possibly be the responsibility of the British to take in huge amounts of migrants who for the most part have no intention of ever integrating into society, who are a financial burden on the British people and who, for large parts, harbor hostility towards the British way of life. You can't blame the sheep for not wanting to let in the wolves. Forcing them to do it is a large part of why they left. | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On June 24 2016 18:44 zeo wrote: Hey guys, what alcohol would you recommend to celebrate the UK being free again? Wikipedia says Gin is the national drink of England, and Welsh whisky for Wales. What brands are the most British/English? edit: + Show Spoiler + We did it wales its finally over the EU is gone Yes mr England I'd say sewage water masking as British ale ;-) | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On June 24 2016 18:49 DickMcFanny wrote: Yeah, fuck that. By the time they reach the UK, they're not refugees anymore, by no possible definition. It can't possibly be the responsibility of the British to take in huge amounts of migrants who for the most part have no intention of ever integrating into society, who are a financial burden on the British people and who, for large parts, harbor hostility towards the British way of life. You can't blame the sheep for not wanting to let in the wolves. Forcing them to do it is a large part of why they left. Wow, your view on migrants, it's so caricatural. By the way, France will surely renegociate the treaty of Le Touquet, in fact we could rip it off and let migrants flow by the tunnel because we're done dealing with those in place of the UK. So expect a little more efforts from the UK to deal with the migrants in a close future. | ||
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Linear
60 Posts
On June 24 2016 18:49 DickMcFanny wrote: Yeah, fuck that. By the time they reach the UK, they're not refugees anymore, by no possible definition. It can't possibly be the responsibility of the British to take in huge amounts of migrants who for the most part have no intention of ever integrating into society, who are a financial burden on the British people and who, for large parts, harbor hostility towards the British way of life. You can't blame the sheep for not wanting to let in the wolves. Forcing them to do it is a large part of why they left. That's pretty closet racist misinformation. | ||
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L1ghtning
Sweden353 Posts
On June 24 2016 17:00 SC2Toastie wrote: - Because people that finish higher education tend to be better at understanding and critically questioning information. - Old people have other interests and are more affected by instinct over factual information: 'the past' when 'everything was better' for example. That's some elitist nonsense. The english young ppl should be thankful that they have grandparents who still remembers what freedom is. Anyway, the age gap is overstated. This was about England and Wales against London and Scotland. The english ppl are sick of being ruled by ppl who doesn't serve their interests. That's what this was about. The EU is not only to blame, but they were part of the problem. I was a brexit advocate first and foremost because it was a step towards decentralization, towards more self-autonomy. This vote will give the british ppl more control over their own lives. But on top of that it's so satisfying to see the establishment, the EU/globalism advocates, the Londoners, and Cambridge/Oxford elite get slapped in the face. How's your democracy working for you now that you no longer get your way? Now you know how it feels to be ruled by others. Hopefully this can teach the bremainers a lesson or two about democracy, and why centralized pseudo democracy is a bad thing. If you had more regional autonomy, then every region could have decided for themselves if they wanted to be part of the EU. Scotland may hold another election for indepedence, just to get back into the EU. The fact that this election was so polarized regionally, that itself shows that leaving the EU was the right choice. If the UK can't get along on policies because they have so drastically different views in the different regions, then why in the world should something as big as the EU get to dictate their policies? This is a great day for liberty, and I think it's only the beginning. I'm convinced that we will see more countries leaving in the near future. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
It'll take around 2 years for UK to actually leave And up to 7 to for negotiating trade agreements with the EU | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On June 24 2016 19:02 LemOn wrote: It'll take around 2 years for UK to actually leave And up to 7 to for negotiating trade agreements with the EU This is unprecedented nobody knows how long it will take, 2 years to leave after article 50. | ||
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