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On June 24 2016 19:46 DickMcFanny wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2016 19:42 Linear wrote:On June 24 2016 19:36 DickMcFanny wrote:Ja, ich bin selbst deutsch. Thank you very much!  Fuck, link doesn't work "http://zdf0910-lh.akamaihd.net/z/de09_v1@392871/manifest.f4m" Bei der Wiedergabe ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. Inhalte mit Geoblocking können nur von Deutschland aus abgerufen werden. Waiting for you to either say you're racist or to show me some facts about your earlier claims... Nah, it's just not worth it. I could show you immigration statistics of second and third generation Turks in Germany, I could give you polls after polls after polls showing that Muslims consider Islam above state laws, I could point to a thousand anecdotes of refugees in refugee camps trying to force Islamic bullshit on Christian refugees, I could point at the state of secularism in pretty much every single Muslim majority country. You can just call me racist and in your mind you have won the argument. Outside of the USA, Muslim integration has never worked.
You could but you didn't, so stop making baseless claims or put up sources. I for one would be really interested to see these. But something tells me they aren't that legit, or you'd have listed them already.
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I would not be at all surprised if it takes 3 months for Article 50 to be invoked and after 5 years of negotiating we end up with a Schengen treaty (like Norway) which changes very little.
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On June 24 2016 20:00 Pik wrote:I always hear that, yet nobody can explain to me why? For me the EU is the greatest political achievement of the last 100 years. I think it wont take long until the british people realize they made a huge mistake just because of simple fears that everyone in Europe has. It speaks volumes that the only international "figures" pro-brexit were Trump and Putin.
The premise of the EU is great, and we are most likely not going to get something better for the foreseeable future but there are fundamental flaws in the execution part.
The Greek credit crisis was a fumbling but we could excuse that as the Greeks doing unusual political stuff but the failure of a unilateral swift response to the immigration crisis right after that was the straw that broke the camels back.
The immigration crisis was the sort of the thing the EU was made to combat, it was the time for the EU to show that it was a good thing to have and they dropped the ball.
Imo the EU should not have moved beyond a trade union, Europe is not ready to be a USA 0.5
That said, the Brexit is dumb move that will not be helpful to anyone.
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On June 24 2016 20:05 Linear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2016 19:46 DickMcFanny wrote:On June 24 2016 19:42 Linear wrote:On June 24 2016 19:36 DickMcFanny wrote:Ja, ich bin selbst deutsch. Thank you very much! Fuck, link doesn't work "http://zdf0910-lh.akamaihd.net/z/de09_v1@392871/manifest.f4m" Bei der Wiedergabe ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. Inhalte mit Geoblocking können nur von Deutschland aus abgerufen werden. Waiting for you to either say you're racist or to show me some facts about your earlier claims... Nah, it's just not worth it. I could show you immigration statistics of second and third generation Turks in Germany, I could give you polls after polls after polls showing that Muslims consider Islam above state laws, I could point to a thousand anecdotes of refugees in refugee camps trying to force Islamic bullshit on Christian refugees, I could point at the state of secularism in pretty much every single Muslim majority country. You can just call me racist and in your mind you have won the argument. Outside of the USA, Muslim integration has never worked. Then please do, if there's so many polls and statistics is shouldn't take you long to dig them up.
Since you are such a loud, annoying mouth who is whiteknighting a lost cause, I'll just drop a link, which you will surely dismiss as not relevant/etc. And this is the last off-topic I will do in this thread, people like you are just blind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_democracy#Indices_of_democracy_in_Muslim_countries
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On June 24 2016 20:09 SoSexy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2016 20:05 Linear wrote:On June 24 2016 19:46 DickMcFanny wrote:On June 24 2016 19:42 Linear wrote:On June 24 2016 19:36 DickMcFanny wrote:Ja, ich bin selbst deutsch. Thank you very much! Fuck, link doesn't work "http://zdf0910-lh.akamaihd.net/z/de09_v1@392871/manifest.f4m" Bei der Wiedergabe ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. Inhalte mit Geoblocking können nur von Deutschland aus abgerufen werden. Waiting for you to either say you're racist or to show me some facts about your earlier claims... Nah, it's just not worth it. I could show you immigration statistics of second and third generation Turks in Germany, I could give you polls after polls after polls showing that Muslims consider Islam above state laws, I could point to a thousand anecdotes of refugees in refugee camps trying to force Islamic bullshit on Christian refugees, I could point at the state of secularism in pretty much every single Muslim majority country. You can just call me racist and in your mind you have won the argument. Outside of the USA, Muslim integration has never worked. Then please do, if there's so many polls and statistics is shouldn't take you long to dig them up. Since you are such a loud, annoying mouth who is whiteknighting a lost cause, I'll just drop a link, which you will surely dismiss as not relevant/etc. And this is the last off-topic I will do in this thread, people like you are just blind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_democracy#Indices_of_democracy_in_Muslim_countries
Isn't the topic "migrants in the EU" instead of "third world countries"?
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On June 24 2016 20:09 SoSexy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2016 20:05 Linear wrote:On June 24 2016 19:46 DickMcFanny wrote:On June 24 2016 19:42 Linear wrote:On June 24 2016 19:36 DickMcFanny wrote:Ja, ich bin selbst deutsch. Thank you very much! Fuck, link doesn't work "http://zdf0910-lh.akamaihd.net/z/de09_v1@392871/manifest.f4m" Bei der Wiedergabe ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. Inhalte mit Geoblocking können nur von Deutschland aus abgerufen werden. Waiting for you to either say you're racist or to show me some facts about your earlier claims... Nah, it's just not worth it. I could show you immigration statistics of second and third generation Turks in Germany, I could give you polls after polls after polls showing that Muslims consider Islam above state laws, I could point to a thousand anecdotes of refugees in refugee camps trying to force Islamic bullshit on Christian refugees, I could point at the state of secularism in pretty much every single Muslim majority country. You can just call me racist and in your mind you have won the argument. Outside of the USA, Muslim integration has never worked. Then please do, if there's so many polls and statistics is shouldn't take you long to dig them up. Since you are such a loud, annoying mouth who is whiteknighting a lost cause, I'll just drop a link, which you will surely dismiss as not relevant/etc. And this is the last off-topic I will do in this thread, people like you are just blind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_democracy#Indices_of_democracy_in_Muslim_countries
So how exactly does this prove that immigrants do not want to integrate?
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What a great day today, our politicians are celebrating the UK for saving Europe for the third time in history.
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I'm not off-toping anymore.
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i'm quite surprised i have to say, david cameron was 2% closer to do a brillant political move
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On June 24 2016 20:09 SoSexy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2016 20:05 Linear wrote:On June 24 2016 19:46 DickMcFanny wrote:On June 24 2016 19:42 Linear wrote:On June 24 2016 19:36 DickMcFanny wrote:Ja, ich bin selbst deutsch. Thank you very much! Fuck, link doesn't work "http://zdf0910-lh.akamaihd.net/z/de09_v1@392871/manifest.f4m" Bei der Wiedergabe ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. Inhalte mit Geoblocking können nur von Deutschland aus abgerufen werden. Waiting for you to either say you're racist or to show me some facts about your earlier claims... Nah, it's just not worth it. I could show you immigration statistics of second and third generation Turks in Germany, I could give you polls after polls after polls showing that Muslims consider Islam above state laws, I could point to a thousand anecdotes of refugees in refugee camps trying to force Islamic bullshit on Christian refugees, I could point at the state of secularism in pretty much every single Muslim majority country. You can just call me racist and in your mind you have won the argument. Outside of the USA, Muslim integration has never worked. Then please do, if there's so many polls and statistics is shouldn't take you long to dig them up. Since you are such a loud, annoying mouth who is whiteknighting a lost cause, I'll just drop a link, which you will surely dismiss as not relevant/etc. And this is the last off-topic I will do in this thread, people like you are just blind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_democracy#Indices_of_democracy_in_Muslim_countries
You are a massive fuckwit, not only are you using the term whiteknighting wrongly you've linked something that you're drawing false conclusions from that don't even relate to the situation....
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I liked Cameron, I'll miss him
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On June 24 2016 20:18 SoSexy wrote:
I'm not off-toping anymore.
lmao
you post a bogus link, get called out on it, then swiftly stop replying.
very convincing
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On June 24 2016 20:18 SoSexy wrote:
I'm not off-toping anymore.
Oh so now more people come out and say you're wrong you casually back away. Similar to the other guy who I called out for his views? At least you get that you're wrong and are trying to save some face.
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Saw the vote breakdown by age brackets, seems the 65+ have decided this referendum. It's the same in my country, I'm 28 and only once out of 10 I've been on the winning side of a vote. With Europe's low natality rates and high life expectancy, there's simply no way for the 18-35 people to compete with the 65+, it's frustrating but I don't think there's anything to be done about it. I can only hope I won't be on the wrong side of history as often when I'm that age.
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On June 24 2016 19:50 hifriend wrote:
I hope Scotland sticks with UK for their own sake.
I also hope the EU will not be petty trying to 'punish' the Brits, their only concern should be expediating the process establishing new, reasonable agreements. "They need to discourage other nations from leaving" what kind of a union needs to punish parties to keep them in line, why should it exist then.
I hope this triggers renegotiations from other countries as well, and fundamental reform of EU. EU losing a big chunk of its budget is only positive at this point. EU is not working, yet it keeps growing and its powers keep expanding. The criticism isn't limited to the UK it is ubiquitous. I wish they would see this for what it is and make a serious change of direction.
Absolutely. But as they were saying during tonight's BBC broadcast, the EU will need to punish the UK so that no other country dares to follow the UK steps. Otherwise, they could realize that the EU free economic movement area was something that everybody wanted while the today's dictatorship of a mad German lady is something what nobody wants.
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On June 24 2016 19:48 Hassybaby wrote:
So the UK Petitions site crashed...
The left wing authoritarians lost this one.
You cannot seriously call for 17,000,000 peoples votes to be ignored becuase the vote didn't go the way you wanted.
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On June 24 2016 20:21 Makro wrote:
i'm quite surprised i have to say, david cameron was 2% closer to do a brillant political move
I dunno, had he won 51/49 he would still have half of the electorate asking to leave and asking for another referendum because when it's that close, anything can make it change.
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Continued my record of never voting for a winning side, dark day for the UK, soon to be England and maybe Wales you suspect.
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On June 24 2016 20:31 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:The left wing authoritarians lost this one. You cannot seriously call for 17,000,000 peoples votes to be ignored becuase the vote didn't go the way you wanted.
Indeed, just like you cannot call for 16,500,000 votes to be ignored because the vote went the way you wanted. An almost 50/50 result calls for debate and compromise, not for immediate decision.
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On June 24 2016 20:32 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2016 20:21 Makro wrote:
i'm quite surprised i have to say, david cameron was 2% closer to do a brillant political move I dunno, had he won 51/49 he would still have half of the electorate asking to leave and asking for another referendum because when it's that close, anything can make it change.
Yeah, a 2% mandate is the weakest of tea. They could hold another vote tomorrow and it could go the other way.
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