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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
Yes that is sarcasm. User was warned for this post | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On May 23 2013 10:41 Dazed_Spy wrote: I'd just like to say, thank God for Gun control, or that soldier could of defended himself. Yes that is sarcasm. User was warned for this post It's also stupid, still doesn't give it any value. I won't start a gun control debate (or better, not follow up) - i'll just leave it for the fact that he was hit with a car before he was slaughtered. As long as a soldier doesn't point his gun at every car that drives on the street, the gun would not help in any way. Just to show you how incredibly shortsighted that "statement" is. I will refer from insulting your "views", since i guess Kwark has a hawkeye on this topic. Also, on an unrelated note, not pointed at you - is "could of" correct, since i learned "could've/could have"? It's actually an honest question. | ||
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LOveRH
United States88 Posts
I feel so bad for 99% of REAL Muslims around the world that have to endure discrimination because of sickening, messed up acts like this. | ||
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5unrise
New Zealand646 Posts
On May 23 2013 10:35 Warlock40 wrote: It's not just opinion when it is a legal matter. As far as opinion goes, if you agree that authority is vested in governments by individuals (as far as Western democracies are concerned), then by extension you must agree that killing in war is distinct from killing someone outside of war, because those who kill in war (assuming they follow proper procedure) are acting as agents of the government, which is entitled to the legitimate exercise of violence. When enough people or the "right" people agree with an opinion, it gets turned into law. I can still hold an opinion that is different from the law, and I don't have to necessarily believe that laws allowing a country to kill other people is just. There is a distinctinction in law, as you may understand, between 'legal guilt' and 'factual guilt' that is an attempt to separate whether someone is morally guilty as opposed to legally guilty, so that lawyers can be freed to focus on the latter so they are morally permitted to defend those they may think are guilty. I believe the Uk government, and the US government, are factually guilty, although they may not be legally guilty, of atrocities. Following from that, there is no conscription in the UK, and the soldier volunteered either for money or for what he believed to be right. Either way, he chose to act as agents of murder for his government. he voluntarily lived by the sword. | ||
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
On May 23 2013 10:53 m4inbrain wrote: It's also stupid, still doesn't give it any value. I won't start a gun control debate (or better, not follow up) - i'll just leave it for the fact that he was hit with a car before he was slaughtered. As long as a soldier doesn't point his gun at every car that drives on the street, the gun would not help in any way. Just to show you how incredibly shortsighted that "statement" is. I will refer from insulting your "views", since i guess Kwark has a hawkeye on this topic. Also, on an unrelated note, not pointed at you - is "could of" correct, since i learned "could've/could have"? It's actually an honest question. I checked google and they say that "could of" does not exist  . Now all of us can learn a little grammar today. YAY | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On May 23 2013 11:04 radscorpion9 wrote: I checked google and they say that "could of" does not exist . Now all of us can learn a little grammar today. YAYHehe, could've(!) checked it myself actually, but if it's slang, then it's kinda hard to find. And yeah, i'm actually glad that i learned that today, since i see "xxx of" pretty often, was getting unsure. ^^ | ||
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-Switch-
Canada506 Posts
On May 23 2013 03:19 Mortal wrote: Shit. Truly tragic that psychopathic killings just "happen" like this. I hope this doesn't turn into a religious debate, because these fucks are just nuts, no two ways about it. religious people are pretty crazy as well. they have no excuse for the amount of people they killed back when they could do what they wanted lol | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On May 23 2013 11:07 m4inbrain wrote: Hehe, could've(!) checked it myself actually, but if it's slang, then it's kinda hard to find. And yeah, i'm actually glad that i learned that today, since i see "xxx of" pretty often, was getting unsure. ^^ A very common grammatical error founded in speech, since "could've" sounds like "could of" when of course it is actually "could have". Similar to the you're/your or they're/their/there errors. I wouldn't rise to such obvious trollbait though. | ||
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m4inbrain
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On May 23 2013 10:41 Dazed_Spy wrote: I'd just like to say, thank God for Gun control, or that soldier could of defended himself. Yes that is sarcasm. User was warned for this post I hear handguns are a great defence against being rammed from behind by a car. If this had happened in the US the attacker would have had a gun and the death toll would be more than one. User was warned for this post | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
On May 23 2013 11:25 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: I hear handguns are a great defence against being rammed from behind by a car. If this had happened in the US the attacker would have had a gun and the death toll would be more than one. They did have a gun. On May 23 2013 11:12 -Switch- wrote: religious people are pretty crazy as well. they have no excuse for the amount of people they killed back when they could do what they wanted lol Quick, how many people alive today were alive then... zero? | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On May 23 2013 11:19 m4inbrain wrote: Since i'm not sure, i wasn't trolling when i asked for the information. I was talking about you not rising to his trollbait. | ||
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Nachtwind
Germany1130 Posts
On May 23 2013 11:28 DeepElemBlues wrote: They did have a gun. Quick, how many people alive today were alive then... zero? Zero alive, yes. Not that this would have eradicated the same mindset from those older ages because the legacy was forwarded every new generation. But whatever. I don´t even think that this sick cowardly attack has anything to do with religion. | ||
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Tewks44
United States2032 Posts
On May 23 2013 11:44 Nachtwind wrote: Zero alive, yes. Not that this would have eradicated the same mindset from those older ages because the legacy was forwarded every new generation. But whatever. I don´t even think that this sick cowardly attack has anything to do with religion. They yelled "God is Great" (A common Muslim expression) in Arabic. How could this possibly not have anything to do with religion? | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On May 23 2013 11:46 Tewks44 wrote: They yelled "God is Great" (A common Muslim expression) in Arabic. How could this possibly not have anything to do with religion? Are you religious by saying "oh my god" to something, which is basically the same? Yesterday (not kidding) i saw a funny cat video with a cat falling out of the window, and the owner yelled allah akbar out of surprise. I'm not religious, i still use the expression (oh my god). | ||
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Tewks44
United States2032 Posts
On May 23 2013 11:48 m4inbrain wrote: Are you religious by saying "oh my god" to something, which is basically the same? Yesterday (not kidding) i saw a funny cat video with a cat falling out of the window, and the owner yelled allah akbar out of surprise. I'm not religious, i still use the expression (oh my god). There is significant difference between saying "oh my god" when you're taken by surprise and yelling a common Islamic expression for praise be to god while you behead someone. Just because people use a phrase casually doesn't exclude it from being able to express an ideology. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On May 23 2013 11:44 Nachtwind wrote: Zero alive, yes. Not that this would have eradicated the same mindset from those older ages because the legacy was forwarded every new generation. But whatever. I don´t even think that this sick cowardly attack has anything to do with religion. Of course it's to do with religion, it's absolutely absurd to say this has nothing to do with religion. It is the latest in an endless line of people killing others while openly stating they are doing it because of their religion and yet here you are suggesting religion has nothing to do with it and that you, random German TL Poster, who's never met any of these people know better than they do what their motives are? Does that mean all religious people are 'evil' and do things like this? Does it mean all Muslims support this? Of course not. But it's quite clearly to do with religion because not only did the actors state so but this is actually a pretty common occurrence across the world right now. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On May 23 2013 11:48 m4inbrain wrote: Are you religious by saying "oh my god" to something, which is basically the same? Yesterday (not kidding) i saw a funny cat video with a cat falling out of the window, and the owner yelled allah akbar out of surprise. I'm not religious, i still use the expression (oh my god). Is this a joke? He's yelling God is Great whilst beheading a man he doesn't know is broad daylight in a crowded street, after which he starts ranting at a journalist about how awful the West is. I'm pretty sure this is about religion yes. | ||
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