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On April 18 2013 16:24 ninini wrote:That must be Pastor Chun. He's a hero! What he and his organization have done for the ppl of north korea can't be described with words.
Yup, that's him. Seems like a very remarkable human being, the way he puts himself in danger and spends so much money to rescue people he's never met before.
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if north korea was a person, i'd bitch slap that spoiled little brat until he admits the little game his playing, blaming others while he is the one who cooked up all the fucking drama.
man, its frustrating.
i had a similar experience in a car accident and fuck was it frustrating as hell. pretty blonde woman who wags her tail in front of cops yet was such a top quality bitch to me saying i caused the accident when it was clearly her fault.
i kinda of want something to happen, something different than the same 'o shit; north korea will demand shit, and we give them, things quiet down until its the same cycle again.
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LONG LIVE DPRK! DPRK WILL LIVE FOREVER IN GLORY
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On April 22 2013 18:58 KimIlSung wrote: LONG LIVE DPRK! DPRK WILL LIVE FOREVER IN GLORY
Live forever in Darkness more like it judging from the google earth photos
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US rejects N Korea's nuclear status demand
North Korea says it wont negotiate with US or South Korea unless it is recognised as a nuclear state.
he US has rejected North Korea's demands to be recognised as a nuclear state, keeping in line with Washington's condition that the North has to agree to give up its nuclear arms programme before talks can begin.
After weeks of tension on the Korean peninsula, including North Korean threats of nuclear war, the North has in recent days begun to at least talk about dialogue in response to calls for talks from the US and South Korea.
On Tuesday, the North's Rodong Sinmun newspaper carried commentary rejecting the US and South Korean condition that it agrees to dismantle its nuclear weapons and suspend missile launches as groundless and "totally unacceptable".
"If the Democratic People's Republic of Korea sits at a table with the US, it has to be a dialogue between nuclear weapons states, not one side forcing the other to dismantle nuclear weapons," the newspaper said.
US rejection
Later on Tuesday, US Assistant Secretary for International Security and Nonproliferation Thomas Countryman rejected the North's demands.
"North Korea's demand to be recognised as a nuclear weapons state is neither realistic nor acceptable," he said.
"It is important that the world respond calmly but deliberately without changing our emphasis that the goal of the world to which North Korea is committed is a denuclearised Korean peninsula."
A White House spokesman said earlier this month that North Korea would need to show it was serious about abandoning its nuclear ambitions for talks to be meaningful.
North Korea signed a denuclearisation-for-aid deal in 2005 but later backed out of that pact. It now says its nuclear arms are a "treasured sword" that it will never give up.
It conducted its third nuclear test in February.
That triggered new UN sanctions which in turn led to a dramatic intensification of North Korea's threats of nuclear strikes against South Korea and the US. Al Jazeera
And while it's expected that N. Korea's spring harvest is likely to be better than last year:
North Korea Asks Mongolia for Food Aid
As North Korea heads into the time of year when its food supplies run low, it appears to be looking for new donors.
At a courtesy call on the Mongolian president last week, Pyongyang’s new ambassador made a request for food aid, according to the official website for the head of state.
“North Korea may face (a) severe food shortage,” Ambassador Hong Gyu told President Elbegdorj, according to the account. Mr. Hong then asked for Mongolia to consider the possibility of delivering food aid to North Korea, the account said.
North Korea’s toughest part of the year for food begins in April and runs through September, when the annual corn harvest begins. Kwon Tae-jin, a scholar on North Korean agriculture in Seoul said that last year’s yield was moderate, but not sufficient to tide the country over.
“We’ve learned that while rations are being delivered, it varies region by region,” said Dr. Kwon, a director at the Korea Rural Economic Institute in Seoul. “But it isn’t sufficient to go around for everyone.”
There are other signs of food shortages. Daily NK, a news website staffed by North Korean defectors, reported last week that Pyongyang did not distribute food to the northernmost province for the biggest holiday of the year; the April 15 anniversary of the birthday of North Korean founder Kim Il Sung.
Since the severe famine in the 1990s, North Korea has struggled to feed its people.
Assistance from international organizations and South Korea has dropped in recent years but President Park Geun-hye has pledged to continue providing aid to the North despite a deterioration in relations with Pyongyang. TWSJ
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On April 23 2013 21:39 Grettin wrote:US rejects N Korea's nuclear status demandShow nested quote +North Korea says it wont negotiate with US or South Korea unless it is recognised as a nuclear state.
he US has rejected North Korea's demands to be recognised as a nuclear state, keeping in line with Washington's condition that the North has to agree to give up its nuclear arms programme before talks can begin.
After weeks of tension on the Korean peninsula, including North Korean threats of nuclear war, the North has in recent days begun to at least talk about dialogue in response to calls for talks from the US and South Korea.
On Tuesday, the North's Rodong Sinmun newspaper carried commentary rejecting the US and South Korean condition that it agrees to dismantle its nuclear weapons and suspend missile launches as groundless and "totally unacceptable".
"If the Democratic People's Republic of Korea sits at a table with the US, it has to be a dialogue between nuclear weapons states, not one side forcing the other to dismantle nuclear weapons," the newspaper said.
US rejection
Later on Tuesday, US Assistant Secretary for International Security and Nonproliferation Thomas Countryman rejected the North's demands.
"North Korea's demand to be recognised as a nuclear weapons state is neither realistic nor acceptable," he said.
"It is important that the world respond calmly but deliberately without changing our emphasis that the goal of the world to which North Korea is committed is a denuclearised Korean peninsula."
A White House spokesman said earlier this month that North Korea would need to show it was serious about abandoning its nuclear ambitions for talks to be meaningful.
North Korea signed a denuclearisation-for-aid deal in 2005 but later backed out of that pact. It now says its nuclear arms are a "treasured sword" that it will never give up.
It conducted its third nuclear test in February.
That triggered new UN sanctions which in turn led to a dramatic intensification of North Korea's threats of nuclear strikes against South Korea and the US. Al JazeeraAnd while it's expected that N. Korea's spring harvest is likely to be better than last year: North Korea Asks Mongolia for Food AidShow nested quote +As North Korea heads into the time of year when its food supplies run low, it appears to be looking for new donors.
At a courtesy call on the Mongolian president last week, Pyongyang’s new ambassador made a request for food aid, according to the official website for the head of state.
“North Korea may face (a) severe food shortage,” Ambassador Hong Gyu told President Elbegdorj, according to the account. Mr. Hong then asked for Mongolia to consider the possibility of delivering food aid to North Korea, the account said.
North Korea’s toughest part of the year for food begins in April and runs through September, when the annual corn harvest begins. Kwon Tae-jin, a scholar on North Korean agriculture in Seoul said that last year’s yield was moderate, but not sufficient to tide the country over.
“We’ve learned that while rations are being delivered, it varies region by region,” said Dr. Kwon, a director at the Korea Rural Economic Institute in Seoul. “But it isn’t sufficient to go around for everyone.”
There are other signs of food shortages. Daily NK, a news website staffed by North Korean defectors, reported last week that Pyongyang did not distribute food to the northernmost province for the biggest holiday of the year; the April 15 anniversary of the birthday of North Korean founder Kim Il Sung.
Since the severe famine in the 1990s, North Korea has struggled to feed its people.
Assistance from international organizations and South Korea has dropped in recent years but President Park Geun-hye has pledged to continue providing aid to the North despite a deterioration in relations with Pyongyang. TWSJ
to be fair mongolian food is delicious.. at least if BD's is anywhere close to realistic!
hopefully the north korean people don't have to suffer for too much longer.. has anyone seen Kim recently?
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South Korea warns North not to reject offer of talks on crisis at industrial zone
South Korea on Thursday warned North Korea of serious consequences if it rejects an offer to hold talks about the dire situation at their shared manufacturing zone where Pyongyang has halted activity amid recent tensions. The South Korean Unification Ministry spokesman Kim Hyung-seok urged the North to respond to the offer of talks over the zone, the Kaesong Industrial Complex, by noon on Friday.
Kim said that if Pyongyang turns down the offer, Seoul would have no choice but to take "grave" measures. He did not specify what those measures might involve.
Source (it's CNN, I know...just bear with it)
"by noon" eh. Wonder what these measures would be about. I hope it's a show of force or firm resolve and not more appeasement that's just been phrased differently...
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It's Military Foundation Day in N. Korea. Speech (part of Military Parade?) is being shown in the stream. (not live, i'd figure)
Open with VLC (CTRL+N)
http://112.170.78.145:50000/chosun
+ Show Spoiler +NK NEWS @nknewsorg 5m It's Army Day in North Korea. State TV is currently broadcasting footage of Kim Jong Un inspecting troops parading outside Kumsusan Palace.
e. infantry parade time!
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For all the crazy that NK have, their demands to be recognized as a nuclear state are pretty reasonable. Of course it's hard to see it as a good thing for anyone but North Korea, but it makes very little sense for them to give up their nuclear capability because USA demands they do so.
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On April 23 2013 21:39 Grettin wrote:North Korea Asks Mongolia for Food AidShow nested quote +As North Korea heads into the time of year when its food supplies run low, it appears to be looking for new donors.
At a courtesy call on the Mongolian president last week, Pyongyang’s new ambassador made a request for food aid, according to the official website for the head of state.
“North Korea may face (a) severe food shortage,” Ambassador Hong Gyu told President Elbegdorj, according to the account. Mr. Hong then asked for Mongolia to consider the possibility of delivering food aid to North Korea, the account said.
North Korea’s toughest part of the year for food begins in April and runs through September, when the annual corn harvest begins. Kwon Tae-jin, a scholar on North Korean agriculture in Seoul said that last year’s yield was moderate, but not sufficient to tide the country over.
“We’ve learned that while rations are being delivered, it varies region by region,” said Dr. Kwon, a director at the Korea Rural Economic Institute in Seoul. “But it isn’t sufficient to go around for everyone.”
There are other signs of food shortages. Daily NK, a news website staffed by North Korean defectors, reported last week that Pyongyang did not distribute food to the northernmost province for the biggest holiday of the year; the April 15 anniversary of the birthday of North Korean founder Kim Il Sung.
Since the severe famine in the 1990s, North Korea has struggled to feed its people.
Assistance from international organizations and South Korea has dropped in recent years but President Park Geun-hye has pledged to continue providing aid to the North despite a deterioration in relations with Pyongyang. TWSJ
I think if they spent less of their limited government budget on things that explode and more on things that could be eaten, everybody would be happier.
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On April 25 2013 20:52 Salazarz wrote: For all the crazy that NK have, their demands to be recognized as a nuclear state are pretty reasonable. Of course it's hard to see it as a good thing for anyone but North Korea, but it makes very little sense for them to give up their nuclear capability because USA demands they do so. This is only true if you agree with it not being necessary to feed your own people.
Man, what SK said (up a few posts) sounds like something NK would say.
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SK appears ballsy now because they called NKs bluff and 'won'
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On April 25 2013 23:47 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 20:52 Salazarz wrote: For all the crazy that NK have, their demands to be recognized as a nuclear state are pretty reasonable. Of course it's hard to see it as a good thing for anyone but North Korea, but it makes very little sense for them to give up their nuclear capability because USA demands they do so. This is only true if you agree with it not being necessary to feed your own people. Man, what SK said (up a few posts) sounds like something NK would say. They sure do. It makes me angry that they would release a statement like that considering we are tied up in their beef with NK. Sounds like they take our protection for granted
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(3rd LD) N. Korea snubs Seoul's call for talks on Kaesong
YONHAP
+ Show Spoiler +SEOUL, April 26 (Yonhap) -- North Korea on Friday rejected Seoul's proposal to hold official talks to resolve the suspension of a joint industrial complex, warning it could be the first to take grave action.
Operations of the industrial complex in the North's border town of Kaesong came to a halt on April 9, when Pyongyang pulled out all of its 53,000 laborers working there.
"Pyongyang will be the first to take tough action if the South insists on worsening the situation at the border town," the North's National Defense Commission said in a statement monitored in Seoul. "The kind of ultimatum made by the South the day before will only lead to no good results."
The response came hours after the Ministry of Unification said it did not receive a reply to its proposal for dialogue.
The ministry set a deadline for noon and warned it could take serious measures if the North did not make its position known on talks.
The current standoff marks the most serious challenge to the complex since it started operations in late 2004.
The shutdown comes as the North has ratcheted up its warlike rhetoric in recent months after detonating its third nuclear device on Feb. 12 and launching a long-range rocket late last year in defiance of warnings by the international community.
is soul bluffing this time? what are the serious measures they want to do?
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On April 26 2013 15:57 Garalor wrote:(3rd LD) N. Korea snubs Seoul's call for talks on KaesongYONHAP+ Show Spoiler +SEOUL, April 26 (Yonhap) -- North Korea on Friday rejected Seoul's proposal to hold official talks to resolve the suspension of a joint industrial complex, warning it could be the first to take grave action.
Operations of the industrial complex in the North's border town of Kaesong came to a halt on April 9, when Pyongyang pulled out all of its 53,000 laborers working there.
"Pyongyang will be the first to take tough action if the South insists on worsening the situation at the border town," the North's National Defense Commission said in a statement monitored in Seoul. "The kind of ultimatum made by the South the day before will only lead to no good results."
The response came hours after the Ministry of Unification said it did not receive a reply to its proposal for dialogue.
The ministry set a deadline for noon and warned it could take serious measures if the North did not make its position known on talks.
The current standoff marks the most serious challenge to the complex since it started operations in late 2004.
The shutdown comes as the North has ratcheted up its warlike rhetoric in recent months after detonating its third nuclear device on Feb. 12 and launching a long-range rocket late last year in defiance of warnings by the international community.
is soul bluffing this time? what are the serious measures they want to do?
Well..
South Korea to pull all workers from jointly-run Kaesong industrial complex
Seoul decided Friday to withdraw the roughly 175 South Koreans still at a jointly run factory complex in North Korea.
The statement Friday by the country's minister in charge of inter-Korean relations raised a major question about the future of the last major symbol of inter-Korean cooperation.
Seoul's announcement came hours after North Korea rejected a South Korean demand for talks on the factory park that has been closed for nearly a month. Seoul said it was worried about its workers not having access to food and medicine.
Pyongyang's powerful National Defense Commission earlier said Seoul's demand for working-level talks was deceptive and similar future demands would "only speed up final destruction" of South Korea.
CBS
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N. Korea says it will try detained Korean-American for 'crimes'
North Korea said Saturday it will try a Korean-American detained in Pyongyang for unspecified "crimes" he has admitted to committing.
In a short dispatch, Pyongyang's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), monitored in Seoul, said Pae Jun-ho will soon be taken to the North's Supreme Court to face trial.
The report said the preliminary inquiry into Pae's crimes has been closed. It said Pae entered Rason City in the North on Nov. 3 of last year and was arrested "for committing crimes" against the communist country. The crimes were not specified.
"In the process of investigation he admitted that he committed crimes aimed to topple the DPRK with hostility toward it," the report said, referring to the North by its official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. "His crimes were proved by evidence."
In South Korean media, the man has been identified as Kenneth Bae. Reports here said he entered North Korea with five other tourists.
Several U.S. citizens have been detained in recent years in North Korea, but all were released after negotiations.
The United States has no diplomatic ties with North Korea, and its interest in the isolated country has often been represented by the Swedish Embassy there.
Last year, Eddie Yong Su Jun, a Korean-American missionary, was released after facing indictment on charges of committing an unspecified crime against the North.
In 2010, North Korea set free Robert Park, a Korean-American Christian activist who entered the country on Christmas Day 2009 to draw international attention to the North's human rights abuse.
In 2009, former U.S. President Bill Clinton flew to Pyongyang to win the release of two American journalists arrested during a reporting tour covering North Korean defectors.
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2013/04/27/95/0401000000AEN20130427001500315F.HTML
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On April 27 2013 22:15 Grettin wrote:N. Korea says it will try detained Korean-American for 'crimes'Show nested quote +North Korea said Saturday it will try a Korean-American detained in Pyongyang for unspecified "crimes" he has admitted to committing.
In a short dispatch, Pyongyang's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), monitored in Seoul, said Pae Jun-ho will soon be taken to the North's Supreme Court to face trial.
The report said the preliminary inquiry into Pae's crimes has been closed. It said Pae entered Rason City in the North on Nov. 3 of last year and was arrested "for committing crimes" against the communist country. The crimes were not specified.
"In the process of investigation he admitted that he committed crimes aimed to topple the DPRK with hostility toward it," the report said, referring to the North by its official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. "His crimes were proved by evidence."
In South Korean media, the man has been identified as Kenneth Bae. Reports here said he entered North Korea with five other tourists.
Several U.S. citizens have been detained in recent years in North Korea, but all were released after negotiations.
The United States has no diplomatic ties with North Korea, and its interest in the isolated country has often been represented by the Swedish Embassy there.
Last year, Eddie Yong Su Jun, a Korean-American missionary, was released after facing indictment on charges of committing an unspecified crime against the North.
In 2010, North Korea set free Robert Park, a Korean-American Christian activist who entered the country on Christmas Day 2009 to draw international attention to the North's human rights abuse.
In 2009, former U.S. President Bill Clinton flew to Pyongyang to win the release of two American journalists arrested during a reporting tour covering North Korean defectors. http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2013/04/27/95/0401000000AEN20130427001500315F.HTML
I want to know if this guy went into North Korea without permission and what he wanted to do in North Korea. It's common sense to stay well away from North Korea, so if he went in without permission it's pretty obvious he would be killed. North Korea's actions would seem less outrageous if that was the case, especially if he went in there in order to do something counter to North Korea's interests, like free North Koreans.
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North Korea has a tourist system.
SPECULATION seems to indicate he took pictures of something.
The circumstances of Mr Bae's arrest are unclear, but Do Hee-youn told the New York Times that Mr Bae may have taken photographs of orphans begging for food in the markets of Rason.
"The most plausible scenario I can think of is that he took some pictures of the orphans, and the North Korean authorities considered that an act of anti-North Korean propaganda," he said. However, taking photographs has never before led to the arrest of a foreign visitor to North Korea
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10022366/North-Korea-to-put-American-Kenneth-Bae-on-trial.html
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Further speculation: If he was in the vicinity of a beggar, he most probably strayed from the approved tourist sights and/or left his tourist guide (which is closer to a tourist guard, really), thus clearly breaking the rules for his stay. Letting Koreans see foreigners if said Koreans have not been cleared to see foreigners, might easily be considered destabilising. After all, the US is officially considered the worst country to live in out of all countries, while North Korea is on second place, right behind China. Showing a well-fed and well-clothed American with an expensive camera to an orphan beggar doesn't really enforce that view...
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