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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On March 27 2014 04:13 Animzor wrote: People still use facebook? I mean other than children. Aren't the latest information that only old people use this while young people switched to other platforms? Anyway, I never used this garbage and I will also stay away from Oculus Rift. | ||
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
On March 27 2014 04:09 wei2coolman wrote: saves me from alt+tabbing in game. I can dig it. i know it's satire but facebook devs are not daft enough to release a product with such crappy interface. also it's generally not a healthy marketing tactic to piss people off. I think it's more likely any ads in games/ VR will be done subtly, such as with instagram sponsorships: http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/03/the-beautiful-invasion-sponsorship-and-instagram/ | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
Facebook gains a way to make the vr a social platform and become a leader in technology in that field. Now they can be the first to utilize the vr for "video call" or even develop a virtual chat room, etc. Pretty much they can become a market leader in this field, and they do not have to touch any gaming side of Oculus at all. Oculus gains capital and expertise to survive in the long run and access to better negotiation power to other parties, such as suppliers, etc. I don't really think that Facebook would be that stupid to force a direction on how Oculus should be developed to be honest, except maybe on making a software team that would integrated or write a new program for Rift to make it usable as a social platform. | ||
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ETisME
12893 Posts
On March 26 2014 22:27 Icapica wrote: As a PC player, why should I be interested in Sony's VR headset? I bet there's a lot of people who don't have a PS4 and are waiting for Oculus Rift. Sony has been putting gimmicky features like controller light which turns out to be very well implemented. I personally think them being experienced in vr such as psvita and Sony mobile z1 etc and combine that with their recent path would make a very interesting product | ||
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Samba
Germany452 Posts
And i was soooo looking forward to play War Thunder with this... | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
I don't know what to think aside from the fact that my initial impression of the situation is dreadful. WTF about the fact Occulus was a Kickstarter project? That totally sucks for all those kickstarter supporters. Certainly nothing is likely breaking tort law, but it sure is a really underhanded move nonetheless (for 2 billion I can't say I wouldn't do the same though). While I'm very cynical about Facebook, one still has to see how things go before getting too crazy. Is this Facebook's first leap into hardware? It seems like a strange thing to buy into considering that VR isn't something that's used for this sort of stuff, and we seem to be a long way away from it unless you count Second Life sort of stuff. Second Life probably couldn't afford it but it would have made a lot more sense of they bought it, or EA, or something. I dislike Facebook more than most people here I would guess, but you/I wouldn't initially know/think it based on many of these comments people are going on about FB. The issue I have with many of your comments is that you talk about this FB—Occulus thing as if similar stuff hasn't already occurred or that you aren't a part of it. Personally, I consider Steam to be a huge infringement on user freedom, and it's why I boycott Steam (the software) despite the fact I have no issue with their website (digital distribution and community), and that Valve makes great games. Many of you say you wouldn't use a [somehow] Facebook-linked/related Occulus Rift but if Steam is any precedent I have my doubts. Am I crazy/mistaken to compare Steam to this? Yeah kinda, at least it would be to compare Facebook itself, but what Facebook does with Occulus might be very non-infringing and of low severity and hence somewhat comparable. | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
So selling to facebook might be those VC call. Or maybe Luckey feels like he needs to jump to a better investor that can benefit more freedom in company's decision. | ||
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HackBenjamin
Canada1094 Posts
On March 27 2014 17:06 Bosu wrote: The kickstarter people have no reason to be upset. They payed for a dev kit and got a dev kit that works quite well. Are you fuckin kidding me? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game 9,522 Backers $2,437,429 pledged of $250,000 goal People were so excited that they donated almost 10 times what Lucky Palmer said he needed to get this off the ground. For him to then take the product that we have invested in and were THAT excited about, and sell it to a company like Facebook, the unplanned pregnancy of the social media world, is a kick in the nuts to the backers, and everyone else who was excited about it. If I had known that they were going to take my/everyones money, turn around and sell to a company that couldn't give two shits about immersion in gaming, (or privacy, but that's another topic) I would have kept my money. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
If I had known that they were going to take my/everyones money, turn around and sell to a company that couldn't give two shits about immersion in gaming, (or privacy, but that's another topic) I would have kept my money. see, people keep saying this, but nothing to back it up. if anything fb is all about making money, they wouldn't limit it's big chunk of OR's market by making it solely an social immersion device, when it could just as easily be translated to a gaming accessory, and make tons more money. | ||
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HackBenjamin
Canada1094 Posts
On March 28 2014 03:14 wei2coolman wrote: see, people keep saying this, but nothing to back it up. if anything fb is all about making money, they wouldn't limit it's big chunk of OR's market by making it solely an social immersion device, when it could just as easily be translated to a gaming accessory, and make tons more money. Does Facebook have games? Yes. Are they fun? Sometimes, maybe. Did Facebook write any of these games? No. The emphasis for the Rift was that it was For Gamers, By Gamers. Are you honestly trying to suggest that Facebook, all of a sudden, has the same fiery passion for this product that the backers of KS had? | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On March 28 2014 02:58 HackBenjamin wrote: People were so excited that they donated almost 10 times what Lucky Palmer said he needed to get this off the ground. For him to then take the product that we have invested in and were THAT excited about, and sell it to a company like Facebook, the unplanned pregnancy of the social media world, is a kick in the nuts to the backers, and everyone else who was excited about it. You didn't invest. You donated some money to a guy.. On March 27 2014 15:10 Samba wrote: God damn it, why of all companies did they have to sellout to FB...i bet they gonna implement a FB log in requirement... And i was soooo looking forward to play War Thunder with this... While it will probably support FB integration, I honestly doubt it would require it. The idea behind FB integration is that they can link a profile/human to certain activities. With a unique device ID (which each OR will have) they already have this "static" factor to identify a profile/human - and can link your activity to that factor. I a world where your TVs collect data about your watching patterns (and the content of your USB media) you can suspect that the OR will probably phone home as well. Especially considering that FB is a company which gains money by user information. For me personally the OR went from "must buy as soon as the CV releases" to a "let's wait some months before tech savvy people can double & triple check it" interest. Maybe everything will really be optional, since it's the fist FB product which is actually hardware, where the consumer might not be the product. | ||
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
On March 28 2014 02:58 HackBenjamin wrote: Are you fuckin kidding me? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game People were so excited that they donated almost 10 times what Lucky Palmer said he needed to get this off the ground. For him to then take the product that we have invested in and were THAT excited about, and sell it to a company like Facebook, the unplanned pregnancy of the social media world, is a kick in the nuts to the backers, and everyone else who was excited about it. If I had known that they were going to take my/everyones money, turn around and sell to a company that couldn't give two shits about immersion in gaming, (or privacy, but that's another topic) I would have kept my money. Unfortunately, Kickstarter is the business world equivalent of a crazy homeless person panhandling in the streets. If you plan on donating to anything through kickstarter, do not expect to see a return on investment. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 28 2014 03:33 HackBenjamin wrote: Does Facebook have games? Yes. Are they fun? Sometimes, maybe. Did Facebook write any of these games? No. The emphasis for the Rift was that it was For Gamers, By Gamers. Are you honestly trying to suggest that Facebook, all of a sudden, has the same fiery passion for this product that the backers of KS had? I think FB has fiery passion for money, like anyone else. Are gamers big ez money? yes. Is the OR an easy product to sell to gamers? yes. Does Facebook want to make money? Yes. How hard is that to understand? | ||
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HackBenjamin
Canada1094 Posts
On March 28 2014 03:38 Zocat wrote: You didn't invest. You donated some money to a guy.. in·vest /inˈvest/ verb: invest; 3rd person present: invests; past tense: invested; past participle: invested; gerund or present participle: investing 1. expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture. synonyms: put money into, provide capital for, fund, back, finance, subsidize, bankroll, underwrite; More Do you even have a point? Or just shitposting to stir the pot? You can change the word I used, "invest" for "donate" and my point is still the same. On March 28 2014 03:46 wei2coolman wrote: I think FB has fiery passion for money, like anyone else. Are gamers big ez money? yes. Is the OR an easy product to sell to gamers? yes. Does Facebook want to make money? Yes. How hard is that to understand? Excuse me, but did I at some point convey to you that I don't understand the motivation behind this aqquisition? | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
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Craze
United States561 Posts
On March 28 2014 04:46 Serejai wrote: It has now been confirmed that the Sony Morpheus will run on PC in addition to PS4. RIP Rift. Sony has been pretty good at jumping on the mistakes of other companies lately (Xbox One marketing) | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
On March 28 2014 03:50 HackBenjamin wrote: Do you even have a point? Or just shitposting to stir the pot? You can change the word I used, "invest" for "donate" and my point is still the same. What he means is that investing typically involves some sort of rate of return. If you backed the KS you got what they promised you, and have no right to ask for more of that, as you don't hold any share in the company like you would in a typical "investment". | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On March 28 2014 04:56 Craze wrote: Sony has been pretty good at jumping on the mistakes of other companies lately (Xbox One marketing) Agree - both on Sony making really good decisions and Microsoft acquiring down syndrome recently. | ||
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