On March 26 2014 11:47 Serejai wrote: I'm surprised so many people are still interested in occulus rift when Sony has a better version coming out sooner and are already developing their next gen games to work with it.
Assumptions. Deliver a source.
edit: about that "better" version
Assumptions? I tried them both at GDC. No need to fanboy for Rift - especially when every tech site on the internet says they are equal or the Morpheus is slightly better.
As a PC player, why should I be interested in Sony's VR headset? I bet there's a lot of people who don't have a PS4 and are waiting for Oculus Rift.
I would be extremely shocked if Morpheus wasn't available for PC as well considering the head of SOE has already stated their upcoming PC MMO will support VR and I can't imagine them using Rift for that over their own product.
On March 26 2014 11:47 Serejai wrote: I'm surprised so many people are still interested in occulus rift when Sony has a better version coming out sooner and are already developing their next gen games to work with it.
Assumptions. Deliver a source.
edit: about that "better" version
Assumptions? I tried them both at GDC. No need to fanboy for Rift - especially when every tech site on the internet says they are equal or the Morpheus is slightly better.
As a PC player, why should I be interested in Sony's VR headset? I bet there's a lot of people who don't have a PS4 and are waiting for Oculus Rift.
I would be extremely shocked if Morpheus wasn't available for PC as well considering the head of SOE has already stated their upcoming PC MMO will support VR and I can't imagine them using Rift for that over their own product.
What tech websites are you reading? What I've read so far is that Oculus Rift looks worse, but the head tracking and display are supposed to be much much better. Haven't tried either, but I'm assuming with all the fb money they will be able to make it look more stylish as well. That said, Morpheus looks like something Daft Punk would wear, not me.
"Oculus has the chance to create the most social platform ever, and change the way we work, play and communicate."
I had really high hopes in the Oculus Rift, because I wanted a new immersive gaming platform to be able to withdraw from the outside from time to time, thus I'm quite pissed off right now, seeing Zuckerberg absolutely destroying that, but at least I didn't invest any money into this. I always knew that Kickstarter is unreliable at best.
On March 26 2014 11:47 Serejai wrote: I'm surprised so many people are still interested in occulus rift when Sony has a better version coming out sooner and are already developing their next gen games to work with it.
Assumptions. Deliver a source.
edit: about that "better" version
Assumptions? I tried them both at GDC. No need to fanboy for Rift - especially when every tech site on the internet says they are equal or the Morpheus is slightly better.
As a PC player, why should I be interested in Sony's VR headset? I bet there's a lot of people who don't have a PS4 and are waiting for Oculus Rift.
I would be extremely shocked if Morpheus wasn't available for PC as well considering the head of SOE has already stated their upcoming PC MMO will support VR and I can't imagine them using Rift for that over their own product.
On March 27 2014 01:07 Spaylz wrote: So, wait, what does this mean exactly for the Kickstarter backers?
I can't imagine them taking it well. I know I wouldn't.
It doesnt change anything for kickstarter backer, Oculus already delivered on their kickstarter promise, the kickstarted money allowed them to produce the DK1 and send them to backers, plus selling around 50 000 more of them. Now that the company was successfully KICKSTARTED, they received investment from venture capital worth 100 million, worked on the second version of the dev kit that will be shipped around july (kickstarter was not involved anymore), and now Facebook bought the whole thing for 2 billion. People that chip in a kickstarter are not investors, and occulus delivered now you can think that facebook is or isnt the best way for them to grow VR in the future, but there is no reason kickstater backer should feel like that have any say in this matter.
As one of the Kickstarter backers, I got pissed off at first, but now that I'm thinking about it, I'm disliking the decision less and less.
Facebook has left previous acquisitions WhatsApp and Instagram untouched for the most part, it makes sense that Facebook would want to diversify their business while their stock is up, they have little incentive to use the Rift as a weapon to use against their competitors as companies such as Microsoft or EA might, a $2 bil capital injection could genuinely be beneficial for the development of the Rift, and while there's no doubt that Facebook is going to build social apps on the platform, I doubt that Zuckerberg and Co. are stupid enough to outright force tracking and advertising onto people buying a peripheral costing hundreds of dollars. My main concern is that the Rift's specs could be slashed for the sake of cutting costs.
I have yet to understand the problem with facebook buying the whole thing, the only arguments I've heard so far are "they will add facebook integration" , "fuck facebook", and "zuckenberg called us dumbfucks"
On March 27 2014 01:47 ZCive2 wrote: I have yet to understand the problem with facebook buying the whole thing, the only arguments I've heard so far are "they will add facebook integration" , "fuck facebook", and "zuckenberg called us dumbfucks"
I think my problem with facebook being involved is that facebook has not really been know to care about things like game quality or anything of the sort. Their main concern as far as games have gone about as far as "How can we milk incredibly simple games for the maximum amount of money?". It is essentially the site that invented and popularized cow clickers and games available there have strayed little from that path ever since.
This leaves me a bit worried and somewhat confused because I don't understand exactly what facebook wants to do with it. I don't understand how the cow clicker experience would be improved by a device like the OR, especially not in a big enough way that it would convince the very casual gamers to buy a fairly expensive device. Which pretty much leaves it for some kind of integration into the social network aspect, which I also don't understand how the OR would really improve to the point where it would be worth buying it for it. I guess they could make some sort of large 3D world chat thingy where you could actually move around as a character of sorts and interact with people in the facebook 'universe'. A social MMO if you will. Pretty much WoW without the actual gameplay.
Still this leaves me mostly confused and a bit worried what direction things will take.
On March 27 2014 01:47 ZCive2 wrote: I have yet to understand the problem with facebook buying the whole thing, the only arguments I've heard so far are "they will add facebook integration" , "fuck facebook", and "zuckenberg called us dumbfucks"
it's normal that people are skeptical, but I agree a lot of the facebook-bashing seems a bit hypocritical-hipster-ish.
chances are that a more high quality version of the tech will arrive to us much sooner than it would have otherwise, to be honest the people who were thinking occulus could remain an "indie" company for the long-haul were not being realistic.
I really wouldn't worry that we'll be getting pestered by coca cola ads while playing through Elder Scrolls VI... and if they did implement something that obnoxious then at least you won't have to go far to complain along with everyone else on facebook.
essentially this is a long term investment and facebook probably doesn't even have a full idea yet what they expect to get from it. They're just buying the "land" now while it's relatively cheap, and once things get further along in development they'll be able to make more specific moves with their new tech. Regarding the comment above, I think it's safe to assume that there will be other devs than just facebook making apps for the OR. So while there might be a bunch of asinine VR cow-clickers, there will probably be some good stuff as well (the indie game market doesn't seem to be dying out any time soon).
On March 27 2014 02:03 Badboyrune wrote:A social MMO if you will. Pretty much WoW without the actual gameplay.
cruel and unusual punishment is unconstitutional in the US
Actually there's a gaming exhibit at the IT museum in Stockholm where they pretty much have a whole section with failed gaming devices. Was pretty cool to see actually, it's funny to think about how many devices just totally flopped. But a lot of it has to do with being ahead-of-their-time as well... I think it's fair to say that VR tech has come a long way in the last 15+ years.
On March 27 2014 02:40 TheFish7 wrote: Well I hope they saved a place in the museum of failed gaming devices next to this guy
On March 27 2014 02:03 Badboyrune wrote:A social MMO if you will. Pretty much WoW without the actual gameplay.
cruel and unusual punishment is unconstitutional in the US
Actually there's a gaming exhibit at the IT museum in Stockholm where they pretty much have a whole section with failed gaming devices. Was pretty cool to see actually, it's funny to think about how many devices just totally flopped. But a lot of it has to do with being ahead-of-their-time as well... I think it's fair to say that VR tech has come a long way in the last 15+ years.
That's pretty cool, now I want to go to Stockholm. I'm sure we'll have VR tech at some point in the future, I just don't think facebook will be the company to do it. I could be wrong though who knows, maybe the Second Life crowd will be all over this. Either that or VR porn will take the world by storm
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