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The gun control argument stops now. I know it's fun to argue about it in the heat of the tragedy when you can get all worked up about it but it's pretty disrespectful and if you don't care enough about the issue to make a separate topic for gun control then you don't care enough to shit on the tragedy by exploiting it.
A gun control topic can be found here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313472

Also stop posting links to his facebook. TL will be no part of an unconfirmed witch hunt.
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
December 14 2012 20:49 GMT
#401
The shooter is dead. Might be Adam Lanza, wasn't he arrested? I'm not following what they are saying.
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
December 14 2012 20:50 GMT
#402
Fuck, stop exploiting the children.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 20:52:50
December 14 2012 20:51 GMT
#403
On December 15 2012 05:48 Ohyra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 03:27 amazingxkcd wrote:
As if any gun control laws is going to stop bastards from illegally obtaining guns regardless.


This tires me to no end.. Come to ANY country in Scandinavia, and then you try - i mean REALLY(!) try, to get a simple handgun. I promise you this would not be an easy task at all. Banning guns doesn't mean that "you can obtain them just as easily illegally". Fucking morons. Laws and regulations are HEAVILY needed.


They won't work the same way in the US because we have had them for so long. But anyways stop replying to older posts as gun control stuff should be kept out of this thread and go to the gun control thread, which is now active again.

On topic I cannot believe the screw ups by the media when they are reporting on such a horrible situation. I know they want news asap to get it out first but seriously does it actually matter if you take that extra time to GET IT RIGHT? No one cares "who has it first" anymore. People are constantly switching back between news sources anyway so STOP BEING LAZY.

User was temp banned for this post.
Never Knows Best.
WTFZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
United States704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 20:57:11
December 14 2012 20:52 GMT
#404
On December 15 2012 03:24 McBengt wrote:
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On December 15 2012 03:21 WTFZerg wrote:
On December 15 2012 03:14 McBengt wrote:
On December 15 2012 03:10 farvacola wrote:
Don't worry, I expect the NRA and fellow gun folk will again loudly yell against anyone who even mentions the possibility that gun control laxity played a role in this amongst others acts of fatal violence. I do wonder how mainstay these sorts of shootings will have to become before public opinion starts to change. And before the requisite "You so stupid, how would taking away guns fix this?" pops up, it's not about "taking away guns", it's about making them more difficult to acquire, because the fact of the matter is that getting guns in the states is incredibly simple and far too easy. My thoughts go out to the families, this sucks.


Does Walmart actually sell ammunition for fully automatic machine guns? Or is that just some strange rumour I heard?



An automatic weapon fires whatever cartridge it is chambered for. There are handguns that fire 9mm and fully automatic weapons that fire 9mm.

Getting a legal automatic weapon is extremely expensive, but you can order whatever ammo off the internet, which is usually a good idea because bulk pricing is pretty good.

On December 15 2012 03:16 J_Slim wrote:
On December 15 2012 03:14 McBengt wrote:
On December 15 2012 03:10 farvacola wrote:
Don't worry, I expect the NRA and fellow gun folk will again loudly yell against anyone who even mentions the possibility that gun control laxity played a role in this amongst others acts of fatal violence. I do wonder how mainstay these sorts of shootings will have to become before public opinion starts to change. And before the requisite "You so stupid, how would taking away guns fix this?" pops up, it's not about "taking away guns", it's about making them more difficult to acquire, because the fact of the matter is that getting guns in the states is incredibly simple and far too easy. My thoughts go out to the families, this sucks.


Do Wal-Mart actually sell ammunition for fully automatic machine guns? Or is that just some strange rumour I heard?


Probably. I work at a sporting goods store, and we sell any type of ammo you could want. Ironic though that we don't sell hand guns. Just shot guns and rifles, including the fully automatic rifles that should *only* be in the hands of a soldier on a warfield.


Your sporting goods store does not sell automatic rifles.


I see. Not too familiar with firearms I'm afraid. Is it common for people to be armed with heavier weapons in the US, as in weapons typically used by the military?


Well, if by weapons used by the military you mean rifles capable of burst fire or automatic then it is extremely rare. Basically, fully automatic weaponry used to be legal in the US until it was banned, but all the fully automatic rifles that were registered before the ban got grandfathered in, meaning there is a pretty finite amount of them floating around, meaning they go for a hell of a lot.

If you mean just a rifle that LOOKS like their military counterparts then it's pretty common. I can buy a well made AR-15 for about $650 off the internet, but that weapon is not capable of anything but single-shot (semi-automatic) unless I make (very, very illegal) modifications to it.
Might makes right.
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
December 14 2012 20:53 GMT
#405
Guys, read the warning at the top...
444 444 444 444
thragar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada450 Posts
December 14 2012 20:53 GMT
#406
On December 15 2012 05:49 KalWarkov wrote:
as terrible as this incident is, i hate that the media talks topics like this to death and the whole world is (or pretends to be) totally mad about this.
If the exact same thing happened in Kenia, no1 would give a damn shit about it. oh, i guess things like that happen there every week.
sometimes, i just hate society for how naive they are.


If being naive means that I need to care about none of the tragedies instead of some of them, then I'd rather be naive. What's the point of saying, "since you don't care about this thing happening over here, you shouldn't care about that thing over there"? Caring about some things is better than nothing.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 20:58:55
December 14 2012 20:55 GMT
#407
On December 15 2012 05:48 Ohyra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 03:27 amazingxkcd wrote:
As if any gun control laws is going to stop bastards from illegally obtaining guns regardless.


This tires me to no end.. Come to ANY country in Scandinavia, and then you try - i mean REALLY(!) try, to get a simple handgun. I promise you this would not be an easy task at all. Banning guns doesn't mean that "you can obtain them just as easily illegally". Fucking morons. Laws and regulations are HEAVILY needed.


This really isn't the issue though sigh.

User was temp banned for the previous post, he must have edited it during the writing of the ban, I'll deal with it.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
December 14 2012 20:57 GMT
#408
Oh no, how awful. What a tragic event.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
December 14 2012 20:57 GMT
#409
On December 15 2012 05:49 KalWarkov wrote:
as terrible as this incident is, i hate that the media talks topics like this to death and the whole world is (or pretends to be) totally mad about this.
If the exact same thing happened in Kenia, no1 would give a damn shit about it. oh, i guess things like that happen there every week.
sometimes, i just hate society for how naive they are.

Feelings aren't really rational. You can't really control what affects you and what not, at least I can't.
Sadly enough horrific news from other parts of the world have become somewhat of a "standard". We are at a point where we cannot take it anymore and just suppress those.
This incident however we cannot flee of everyone knows some children at that age, knows their smiling, their laughter etc and subsequently can relate to this. And this happenend in a to us familiar environment so we can understand it naturally.


Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 14 2012 20:59 GMT
#410
18 children ? You must be really desperate to shoot children ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
LongBow
Profile Joined May 2012
United States265 Posts
December 14 2012 20:59 GMT
#411
Grand condolences to the victims and all affected. Prayers to those children, that this action does not go on to define their lives.
Cylluus
Profile Joined November 2011
United States153 Posts
December 14 2012 20:59 GMT
#412
That poor kid they're showing being interviewed on the Reuter's website. They need to just leave these kids alone.
EmperorKira
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom107 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 21:01:20
December 14 2012 20:59 GMT
#413
So tragic RIP

User was temp banned for this post.
Alltomata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States66 Posts
December 14 2012 21:01 GMT
#414
I really wish people would stop arguing the political side of this tragedy, at least for at least a day. Thoughts should be with the families and victims, immediately jumping to debates about gun control is pointless.
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tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
December 14 2012 21:01 GMT
#415
On December 15 2012 05:59 EmperorKira wrote:
Such a tragedy. When 9/11 happened, the US said "never again", but when it comes to guns its just "here we go again". When will something be done?! Very few countries in the world have this problem. There's something wrong when a guy can carry 4 guns, walk into a school and kill a classroom.

Seriously...enough is enough...


It is. Enough already...
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MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
December 14 2012 21:02 GMT
#416
On December 15 2012 05:44 [X]Ken_D wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 05:36 tMomiji wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:34 [X]Ken_D wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:27 jcroisdale wrote:
I never understand these types of things, as people we will make this the biggest new story for days. Everyone will be commentating and expressing their sadness with the situation. While on the otherside kids are dying in far greater numbers everyday because of things like hunger and thirst. In the iraq war there have been over 100k documented civilian casualties. Could you imagine if 100k American civilians have died because of this war.

Its fine to show compassion and grief in this situations, but in reality it just show the ignorance of the American people,

Im am an American and wish nothing more then to have reform in this country.


This is close to some people. Some people actually give a fuck about what happened. Who are you to say what they should care about?


I hate this kind of attitude (his, not yours) - like Americans aren't allowed to be upset when anything happens to them, as if we, as if ANYONE, deserves this kind of thing.


It makes people into things. Another statistics, instead of seeing people as.. well.. human beings. People can relate to this tragedy, even I can relate to this without having children of my own.


So if human beings matter to you then why does it matter to you more when less human beings are dying than when more are dying? It leads me to assume that you think all human life isn't equal. Statistics will exist regardless, but when life is being taken, the more life that is being taken is obviously more tragic. Just a thought.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 21:03:15
December 14 2012 21:02 GMT
#417
On December 15 2012 05:59 EmperorKira wrote:
So tragic RIP

User was temp banned for this post.


RIPs are ban worthy? How can expressing your condolences be ban worthy...
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
December 14 2012 21:03 GMT
#418
can we get the thread locked? at this rate half of the TL population won't be able to post for a couple weeks (i am not trying to argue mod decisions, it just seems like people can't help themselves)
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
December 14 2012 21:03 GMT
#419
On December 15 2012 06:02 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 05:59 EmperorKira wrote:
So tragic RIP

User was temp banned for this post.


RIPs are ban worthy? How can expressing your condolences be ban worthy...


He edited his post
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
December 14 2012 21:03 GMT
#420
On December 15 2012 06:02 MethodSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 05:44 [X]Ken_D wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:36 tMomiji wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:34 [X]Ken_D wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:27 jcroisdale wrote:
I never understand these types of things, as people we will make this the biggest new story for days. Everyone will be commentating and expressing their sadness with the situation. While on the otherside kids are dying in far greater numbers everyday because of things like hunger and thirst. In the iraq war there have been over 100k documented civilian casualties. Could you imagine if 100k American civilians have died because of this war.

Its fine to show compassion and grief in this situations, but in reality it just show the ignorance of the American people,

Im am an American and wish nothing more then to have reform in this country.


This is close to some people. Some people actually give a fuck about what happened. Who are you to say what they should care about?


I hate this kind of attitude (his, not yours) - like Americans aren't allowed to be upset when anything happens to them, as if we, as if ANYONE, deserves this kind of thing.


It makes people into things. Another statistics, instead of seeing people as.. well.. human beings. People can relate to this tragedy, even I can relate to this without having children of my own.


So if human beings matter to you then why does it matter to you more when less human beings are dying than when more are dying? It leads me to assume that you think all human life isn't equal. Statistics will exist regardless, but when life is being taken, the more life that is being taken is obviously more tragic. Just a thought.


Human suffering matters whether it is one or a million people.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
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