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Varbind
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada113 Posts
July 26 2017 17:47 GMT
#1461
Apple definitely doesn't, Tim Cook has stated that publicly in multiple interviews
Varbind
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada113 Posts
July 26 2017 17:49 GMT
#1462
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2015/10/01/445026470/apple-ceo-tim-cook-privacy-is-a-fundamental-human-right
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 26 2017 17:51 GMT
#1463
If you believe Tim Cook, that is fine. A lot of companies say they don't do things for marketing, but then we find out later that they did something similar, but found a loophole to justify it. Like "We don't sell your personal data, but we do sell data blocks with all the relevant personal information removed".
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Varbind
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada113 Posts
July 26 2017 17:56 GMT
#1464
Googles entire business model is based upon tracking you, Apples isn't, I see no reason to doubt Tim Cook
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 26 2017 18:05 GMT
#1465
I simply choose to not trust publicly held companies to protect my rights. Apple is an ok company, but protecting my privacy isn’t profitable and that is what businesses do.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
July 26 2017 18:13 GMT
#1466
On July 27 2017 02:56 Varbind wrote:
Googles entire business model is based upon tracking you, Apples isn't, I see no reason to doubt Tim Cook

Did you look at Apple's privacy policy? It literally says:

1. They collect non-personal information (such as (anonimized) what sites you visit, where you are, etc.)
2. They may combine that non-personal information with personal information, in which case they treat the non-personal information collected as personal information.
3. They may share your personal data with "partners" (legaleze for: anybody we feel like).

Google collects it to provide you ads. They don't claim they are not building a complex profile of you and use that to try to target better ads at you (which only partially works). But Apple collects the same data. They may not sell you ads, but they do need to keep improving Siri and other context-dependent services, which require that exact same data. And for that they need your data. And seeing as they have it, their privacy policy allows them to sell it.

The main difference is in sheer volume. Chrome has a larger market share than Safari. Gmail is a far more popular email service than icloud. And that's not even talking about Google search, photos or maps. The fact that you are simply more likely to be using Chrome, Gmail, an Android phone and searching for things with Google means there is far more of that non-personal information about you to build a profile with, and their profile is far more detailed than Apple's (or at least it could be, we don't know). That means if it leaks, that's a far bigger privacy problem than Apple. That said, insofar as anybody knows, Google's servers haven't actually been hacked (unlike Apple), and their overall privacy policy is a lot clearer and more to the point. It's also opt-in instead of opt-out (or don't opt at all) for most things.

I don't want to sound like I'm defending Google's privacy policy. I agree with P6 that they are all pretty terrible. I just want to point out that Apple is no saint.

Finally, there is one point that Apple clearly wins in, and that is security against hacking. Android is designed as a far more open system, which comes with larger security problems. There is simply more malware for Android than for Apple, and if someone really wants to (illegally) get at the data in your phone, it is easier to do so on Android. The same, of course, goes for whatever government might want to spy on you.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
July 26 2017 19:15 GMT
#1467
On July 27 2017 02:47 Varbind wrote:
Apple definitely doesn't, Tim Cook has stated that publicly in multiple interviews

Oooh are you telling me that the CEO of a company is a good source when asking stuff about the company he is CEO for ? Like NO BIASED AT ALL

Smh dude 🤦🏻‍♂️

What an awful troll lmao
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
July 26 2017 19:50 GMT
#1468
My Galaxy S8+ arrived today (one day earlier than expected actually) and I like it. Compared to my Z3 that is starting to fall apart, it is a huge improvement in just about any way.
EZ4ENCE
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-27 09:18:47
July 27 2017 09:18 GMT
#1469
On July 27 2017 01:37 Faruko wrote:
Hopefully you get the exynos version as it has better support and its faster overall (not sure if noticeable tho)


Ok so I called again today and actually got a better offer. I now just took the S8, but didn't really have time to inform myself. Good choice?
Respect my authoritah!!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-27 10:47:40
July 27 2017 10:46 GMT
#1470
Yes, awesome choice

God damn if the iphone 8 is really like those renders, i might go to the darkside
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 28 2017 15:17 GMT
#1471
Google has hired a former lead Pebble and webOS designer Liron Damir as the new head of user experience of its Google Home group, which works on products such as Google Home, Chromecast and Google Wifi. Damir announced that he joined Google on Linkedin this week, writing that he was “super excited and proud to be joining Google… to lead the design of Google Home products.”

A Google spokesperson confirmed the hire Thursday, but declined to comment further.

Most recently, Damir worked as head of UX for Essential, the new startup from Android founder Andy Rubin. Before that, he was VP of design at Pebble, the pioneering smart watch maker that got acquired by Fitbit in late 2016.

Before joining Pebble, Damir led the webOS design efforts at HP, and then at LG. webOS was initially developed as a mobile operating system to take on Android and iOS, but HP scrapped these efforts when it realized that it couldn’t compete with the likes of Apple and Samsung. The company sold webOS to LG in early 2013, which ended up using the operating system for its smart TVs.

Damir is joining the Google Home group at an interesting time. Google Home itself launched as a product without a screen, and Chromecast has been positioned as a device without an on-screen user interface, instead relying on mobile apps for content selection and control.

However, Google demonstrated at its developer conference in May that it is working on closely integrating both products, which will require more complex on-screen interfaces. For example, Google Home owners will soon be able to have their calendar and other information displayed on any Chromecast-equipped TV, and Chromecast owners will be able to ask Google’s voice assistant to display video recommendations directly on their TV screens.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-01 00:53:03
August 01 2017 00:51 GMT
#1472


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15357 Posts
August 01 2017 05:33 GMT
#1473
Brave of Samsung to keep the name Note. I would have just changed the conversation if I didn't like what they were saying about me.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 01 2017 20:37 GMT
#1474
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
August 01 2017 23:26 GMT
#1475
Iphone 8+ to have a 6.5 inch screen in the same size of the iphone 7+
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 02 2017 01:34 GMT
#1476
that samsung phone is not going to age well.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 15:40:57
August 03 2017 14:58 GMT
#1477


It looks like the next Pixel will not have a headphone jack

I am honestly at the point where I don't mind it being removed. I am going to buy a pair of wireless ANC Headphones later this month, and the only reason for using the ones included with my S8+ is because my previous pair of headphones broke (as usual at the cable despite handling them very carefully). If I can limit my cables to just charging cables in the long run then I will be happy
EZ4ENCE
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
August 03 2017 15:18 GMT
#1478
problem is... wireless headphones are so shit is not even funny, my half the price DT 990 Pro were infinite times better than my $400 dollars Sennheiser PXC550, which i end up returning.

they sounded nice, but it wasnt even near the sound quality of the 990, also terrible price/performance ratio on wireless headphones overall

I would love to have some good bt headphones but im not going to spend 2x the price of a wired one for something that dpoesnt even sound as near as good
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 03 2017 15:20 GMT
#1479
Maybe this trend will force competition and better quality along with better price(s).
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 03 2017 15:50 GMT
#1480
On August 04 2017 00:20 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Maybe this trend will force competition and better quality along with better price(s).

More competition in the wireless audio space is really needed, and if it comes as a result of phone makers starts removing headphone jack for w/e reason, then I consider the removal a necessary evil.

The biggest short-term annoyance for me personally going all wireless audio is that I will need a USB Bluetooth dongle for my PC. But I consider that a minor annoyance for the convenience of wireless audio
EZ4ENCE
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